ADV Item Update

eric the espeon · Nov 30th, 2009, 8:18:45 PM

With the HG/SS ones pretty much done, I decided to take a look at ADV. Found that quite a few were missing, will be compiling a list then editing descriptions into this post.

e-Reader berries. On SCMS.

Key items to add. Now on site (with some minor changes as I went along)!

For Colin's use:

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key items to rewrite/check in detail

If someone is willing to do it, the secret base decorations should be split the off into a separate table, or better removed entirely. They don't remotely contribute to anything competitive, and the info can be found somewhere like here for anyone who wants it. The DP pages don't have things like Spheres and Traps for good reason, this is no different.

Also, a vast majority of the descriptions seem to come directly from the in game description. The ones that Obi did are generally great, but it seems a ton was added sometime after that directly from game data... In almost all cases this is not anything like as helpful as the set of descriptions on the DP pages. For example none of the TM or HM pages even tell you what move they teach, the pages for vitamins don't mention EVs, the trade with item evolution items don't mention this effect, and balls don't mention catch rates.

The best solution may be to copy all the DP pages over other than items that don't appear in ADV and the few that changed in the generation gap (like Sitrus Berry). The ADV key items would need to be written up properly, but pretty much all of them need a rewrite anyway (obi only did in battle competitive items, so key items are straight from game data or missing) and I am up for doing that part. If it's wanted, I can work up a list of items that have differences between the generations, but exist in both.

Even if fixing the ADV Item pages is not a top priority right now, we may as well have it somewhat up to standard.

***Cathy***** · Dec 7th, 2009, 8:27:30 PM

The missing items are on site now, thanks to eric.

eric the espeon · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:37:56 PM

Brilliant, big thanks to Colin and Great Sage for helping get these on site. When the SCMS entries for non hold items are set up I'll do my best to bring those up to standard too.

Nov 30th, 2009, 8:18:45 PM	#1
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	ADV Item Update With the HG/SS ones pretty much done, I decided to take a look at ADV. Found that quite a few were missing, will be compiling a list then editing descriptions into this post. e-Reader berries. On SCMS. Pumkin Berry [SHORT DESC] Cures freeze. One-time use. [LONG DESC] Cures freeze. Activates when the Pokémon is frozen. One-time use. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Drash Berry [SHORT DESC] Cures poison. One-time use. [LONG DESC] Cures Poison. Activates when the Pokémon is Poisoned. One-time use. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Eggant Berry [SHORT DESC] Cures infatuation. One-time use. [LONG DESC] Cures infatuation. Activates when the Pokémon is Poisoned. One-time use. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Strib Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Chilan Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Nutpea Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Ginema Berry [SHORT DESC] Removes stat decreases. Consumed after use. [LONG DESC] If any of the holder's stats are decreased any number of stages, White Herb will immediately negate that stat decrease. This effect will occur regardless of which player's Pokemon caused the decrease. This item is consumed after use. If this item is Tricked onto a Pokemon with a stat drop, the stat drop is immediately negated. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Kuo Berry [SHORT DESC] Cures burn. One-time use. [LONG DESC] Cures burn. Activates when the Pokémon is burned. One-time use. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Yago Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Touga Berry [SHORT DESC] Cures confusion. One-time use. [LONG DESC] Cures confusion. Activates when the Pokémon is Confused. One-time use. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Niniku Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Topo Berry [SHORT DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. [LONG DESC] Berry blended to make Pokéblocks. Only available with an e-Reader. When a new card is scanned the new Berry overwrites any old Berry. Key items to add. Now on site (with some minor changes as I went along)! [NAME] Auroraticket [SHORT DESC] Event item for Deoxys [LONG DESC] Allows access to Birth Island where Deoxys can be battled on Fire Red, Leaf Green and Emerald. [NAME] Berry Pouch [SHORT DESC] Holds Berries. [LONG DESC] Holds Berries in Fire Red and Leaf Green. [NAME] Bicycle [SHORT DESC] Increases movement speed when in use. [LONG DESC] Increases movement speed. Allows access to the Cycling Road. Has no use in battles. [NAME] Bike Voucher [SHORT DESC] Exchange for Bicycle. [LONG DESC] Give to a man in Cerulean City in exchange for a Bicycle. [NAME] Card Key [SHORT DESC] Opens doors in Silph Co. [LONG DESC] Opens doors in Silph Co. [NAME] Dome Fossil [SHORT DESC] Revives into Kabuto. [LONG DESC] If given to a man on Cinnabar Island he will revive it into Kabuto. [NAME] Lift Key [SHORT DESC] Activates the Elevator in the Rocket Hideout. [LONG DESC] Activates the Elevator in the Rocket Hideout. [NAME] Fame Checker [SHORT DESC] Stores information about important ingame characters. [LONG DESC] Stores information about important ingame characters. [NAME] Gold Teeth [SHORT DESC] Exchange for HM 04. [LONG DESC] Give to the Wardenin exchange for HM 04 (Strength). [NAME] Helix Fossil [SHORT DESC] Revives into Omanyte. [LONG DESC] If given to a man on Cinnabar Island he will revive it into Omanyte. [NAME] Magma Emblem [SHORT DESC] Allows access Team Magma's base. [LONG DESC] Allows access Team Magma's base in Emerald. [NAME] Mysticticket [SHORT DESC] Event item for Ho-Oh and Lugia. [LONG DESC] Allows ships to take the player to Navel Rock where Ho-Oh and Lugia can be encountered. [NAME] Oak's Parcel [SHORT DESC] Exchange for Pokedex. [LONG DESC] Give to Professor Oak exchange for a Pokedex. [NAME] Old Amber [SHORT DESC] Revives into Aerodactyl. [LONG DESC] If given to a man on Cinnabar Island he will revive it into Aerodactyl. [NAME] Old Sea Map [SHORT DESC] Event item for Mew. [LONG DESC] Allows ships to take the player to Faraway Rock where Mew can be encountered. [NAME] Poké Flute [SHORT DESC] Wakes sleeping Pokemon. [LONG DESC] Wakes sleeping Pokemon both in and out of battle. Does not disappear after one use. Required for waking Snorlax blocking the player's path. [NAME] Powder Jar [SHORT DESC] Stores Berry powder made with the Berry Crush. [LONG DESC] Stores Berry powder made with the Berry Crush. [NAME] Rainbow Pass [SHORT DESC] Allows access to all the normal Sevii Islands. [LONG DESC] Allows the player to take a ship to One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, and Seven Island. [NAME] Ruby [SHORT DESC] Give to Celio to set up the Network Machine. [LONG DESC] Give to Celio to set up the Network Machine. [NAME] Sapphire [SHORT DESC] Give to Celio to set up the Network Machine. [LONG DESC] Give to Celio to set up the Network Machine. [NAME] Secret Key [SHORT DESC] Unlocks the door to Cinnabar Gym. [LONG DESC] Unlocks the door to Cinnabar Gym. [NAME] Silph Scope [SHORT DESC] Allows wild Pokemon in Lavender Tower to be battled. [LONG DESC] Allows wild Pokemon in Lavender Tower to be battled. Without this item they appear as "Ghosts", and cannot be attacked or caught. [NAME] TM Case [SHORT DESC] Stores TMs and HMs. [LONG DESC] Stores TMs and HMs. [NAME] Tea [SHORT DESC] Give to guards to allow access to Saffron City. [LONG DESC] Give to guards to allow access to Saffron City. Giving it to one guard will open up all three ways into Saffron City. [NAME] Teachy TV [SHORT DESC] Gives basic information on Pokemon games. [LONG DESC] Gives basic information on Pokemon games. [NAME] Town Map [SHORT DESC] A map of Kanto and the Sevii Islands. [LONG DESC] A map of Kanto and the Sevii Islands that displays the players current location. [NAME] Tri-Pass [SHORT DESC] Allows access to One, Two and Three Islands. [LONG DESC] Allows the player to take a ship to One, Two, and Three Island. [NAME] VS Seeker [SHORT DESC] Allows Trainers to be rebattled. [LONG DESC] Allows Trainers to be rebattled. Required 100 steps charging time between uses. For Colin's use: ... Oak's Parcel > Oaks Parcel TM Case > Tm Case VS Seeker > Vs Seeker Tri-Pass > Tri-pass Poké Flute > Poke Flute key items to rewrite/check in detail Acro Bike Basement Key Blue Orb Claw Fossil Coin Case Contest Pass Devon Goods Devon Scope Eon Ticket Go-Goggles Good Rod Itemfinder Letter Mach Bike Meteorite Old Rod PkBlock Case Red Orb Rm. 1 Key Rm. 2 Key Rm. 4 Key Rm. 6 Key Root Fossil S. S. Ticket Scanner Soot Sack Storage Key Super Rod Wailmer Pail If someone is willing to do it, the secret base decorations should be split the off into a separate table, or better removed entirely. They don't remotely contribute to anything competitive, and the info can be found somewhere like here for anyone who wants it. The DP pages don't have things like Spheres and Traps for good reason, this is no different. Also, a vast majority of the descriptions seem to come directly from the in game description. The ones that Obi did are generally great, but it seems a ton was added sometime after that directly from game data... In almost all cases this is not anything like as helpful as the set of descriptions on the DP pages. For example none of the TM or HM pages even tell you what move they teach, the pages for vitamins don't mention EVs, the trade with item evolution items don't mention this effect, and balls don't mention catch rates. The best solution may be to copy all the DP pages over other than items that don't appear in ADV and the few that changed in the generation gap (like Sitrus Berry). The ADV key items would need to be written up properly, but pretty much all of them need a rewrite anyway (obi only did in battle competitive items, so key items are straight from game data or missing) and I am up for doing that part. If it's wanted, I can work up a list of items that have differences between the generations, but exist in both. Even if fixing the ADV Item pages is not a top priority right now, we may as well have it somewhat up to standard. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Dec 7th, 2009 at 6:51:44 PM. Reason: Wrote e-Reader Berries. Added them to SCMS.

Dec 8th, 2009, 6:37:56 PM	#3
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	Brilliant, big thanks to Colin and Great Sage for helping get these on site. When the SCMS entries for non hold items are set up I'll do my best to bring those up to standard too. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Dec 7th, 2009, 8:27:30 PM	#2
*Cathy* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,062	The missing items are on site now, thanks to eric.