New OU List (January 2009)

X-Act · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:30:39 AM

Brand new year... Brand new OU list!

This list was compiled from statistics of October, November and December taken together, with a bias of 1:3:20 respectively.

Code:

Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Azelf
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Donphan
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Empoleon
Flygon
Forretress
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kingdra
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Metagross
Ninjask
Porygon-Z
Rhyperior
Rotom-A
Salamence
Scizor
Skarmory
Snorlax
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weavile
Yanmega
Zapdos
 
(49 Pokemon)

Three Pokemon are new entries in the OU list. Please welcome Empoleon, Flygon and Rhyperior. Gallade exits the OU list.

Stallion · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:32:26 AM

So I'm taking it that the usage of the appliances are all under the one banner now?

Also not too suprised with the current OU list and its new inclusions, except for the fact that Electivire always somehow inexplicably always avoids dropping into BL despite the fact I never see it on ladder.

eig · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:33:42 AM

Yay, if Porygon2 hasn't gone up to OU I can use him in the UU test which means no more infernape spoiling its fun.

yoshi! · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:37:26 AM

Does Rotom-A being in OU exclude Rotom from the UU testing, or are we making Rotom-A and Rotom different pokemon?

Nachos · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:46:18 AM

How Donphan keeps coming back to OU is beyond me.

Nice to see Empoleon there, as well as Flygon.

pi face · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:54:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nachos

How Donphan keeps coming back to OU is beyond me.

I say the same about Electivire... but it never was BL though :P

tripe · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:56:05 AM

How the hell is Dugtrio still OU?

welorg · Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:58:30 AM

where is shaymin???

Ellington · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat welorg

where is shaymin???

Uber for now.

Pretty fun newcomers, although I'd like to see some pokémon leave the list. Seriously, how come so many people are still using Electivire?

Evil Hamster · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:11:27 AM

I swear I haven't seen a Heracross or an Electivire in the last three months, lol. Can't say I'm surprised about the new entries though, though I'm slightly disappointed that Empoleon won't be useable in the new UU.

SHUCKLE MAN · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:16:14 AM

Donphan manages to scrape its way into OU every time. I swear, it always seems to be in the 45-50 region. :)

Scofield · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:17:24 AM

I really wish gallade would've just stayed OU. Normally I wouldn't mind but just from theorymon I'm pretty sure that it can break the new UU. An attack stat high as heracross and gyarados, great typing, amazing movepool and swords dance. The CB set (thanks a lot to psycho cut) also absoultely wrecks shit up. If it woulda stayed OU it just would've saved some time, I think.

MetaNite · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:17:39 AM

I'm disapointed Rhyperior isn't usable in the new UU. Nothing resists its STABs there.

Oh yeah, except for Torterra. But that's what Megahorn is for.

Electivire has reasons for still being OU. First off, Zapdos is in the top 5 meaning Electivire has plenty of chances to come in. And it still has synergy with Gyarados, another top 5.

I hardly see Gallade. It doesn't do much and is easily revenge killed. But the Bulk Up set always seems to take down a Pokemon.

TVboyCanti · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:19:27 AM

Donphans probably the best spinner now that rotom is the #1 spin blocker in OU.

Donphan doesn't take super effective damage from any of rotom-Hs attacks, and has assurance/toxic/roar to use against rotom. Starmie can't exactly claim the same.

SHUCKLE MAN · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:26:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat scofield

I really wish gallade would've just stayed OU. Normally I wouldn't mind but just from theorymon I'm pretty sure that it can break the new UU. An attack stat high as heracross and gyarados, great typing, amazing movepool and swords dance. The CB set (thanks a lot to psycho cut) also absoultely wrecks shit up. If it woulda stayed OU it just would've saved some time, I think.

Well, there's no real reason to worry, because if it truly is that broken, it'll be banned.

X-Act · Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:40:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat yoshi!

Does Rotom-A being in OU exclude Rotom from the UU testing, or are we making Rotom-A and Rotom different pokemon?

Rotom-A and Rotom are considered different Pokemon, just like Shaymin-S and Shaymin are.

Red Rain · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:06:56 AM

Nice to see Empoleon there. Everyone says it was under-rated, but now it's got great usage and is finally where it belongs. Rhyperior is a great decision too, he's in my new team for a reason. He's totally underrated.

Legacy Raider · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:11:16 AM

Well, the evil penguin Empoleon is finally OU. Nice to see Rhyperior and Flygon come into that list as well, as they are both of them powerful pokemon of their own accord and Flygon in particular does well in the metagame at present.

TVboyCanti · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:24:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Legacy Raider

Well, the evil penguin Empoleon is finally OU.

Sounds like somebody's got a grudge lol. Just kidding. Glad to see Flygon won't be poking its head into UU, all the dragons are now safely in OU.

Ellington · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:26:16 AM

Except Altaria.

Lemmiwinks MkII · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:39:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat scofield

I really wish gallade would've just stayed OU. Normally I wouldn't mind but just from theorymon I'm pretty sure that it can break the new UU. An attack stat high as heracross and gyarados, great typing, amazing movepool and swords dance. The CB set (thanks a lot to psycho cut) also absoultely wrecks shit up. If it woulda stayed OU it just would've saved some time, I think.

Well it does have to contend with Spiritomb in this new metagame, who is likely to be very popular given that it is the only bulky Ghost left. I do agree though that it will be interesting to see what kind of impact it will have.

SMZ · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:46:24 AM

Nice to see Empoleon and Rhyperior OU :D. Gallading exiting isn't surprising for me (but so as Electivire still being OU).

Garganator · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:47:22 AM

Quote:

Well it does have to contend with Spiritomb in this new metagame, who is likely to be very popular given that it is the only bulky Ghost left. I do agree though that it will be interesting to see what kind of impact it will have.

Only Spiritomb ? Because I guess it's not quite true - if Smogon count every single Rotom form like each one of them is new pokemon (and only Rotom-A is OU) and in Smogon Server statistics each form has their own statistics. Does it mean that there will be possibility to use another forms in new UU tier ?

EDIT: Thanks for answer Lemmiwinks.

Lemmiwinks MkII · Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:55:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Garganator

Only Spiritomb ? Because I guess it's not quite true - if Smogon count every single Rotom form like each one of them is new pokemon (and only Rotom-A is OU) and in Smogon Server statistics each form has their own statistics. Does it mean that there will be possibility to use another forms in new UU tier ?

Rotom-Appliance, i.e. all the appliance Rotoms combined. Only the weaker original Rotom will be allowed in UU.

Malfunction · Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:38:34 AM

Yay Flygon in OU.
Thanks for this people.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:32:26 AM	#2
Stallion Lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,652 Canberra, Australia	So I'm taking it that the usage of the appliances are all under the one banner now? Also not too suprised with the current OU list and its new inclusions, except for the fact that Electivire always somehow inexplicably always avoids dropping into BL despite the fact I never see it on ladder. __________________

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:46:18 AM	#5
Nachos You Only Stack Once Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,347	How Donphan keeps coming back to OU is beyond me. Nice to see Empoleon there, as well as Flygon. __________________ (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)

Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:11:27 AM	#10
Evil Hamster Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 575	I swear I haven't seen a Heracross or an Electivire in the last three months, lol. Can't say I'm surprised about the new entries though, though I'm slightly disappointed that Empoleon won't be useable in the new UU. __________________ not a counter

Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:16:14 AM	#11
SHUCKLE MAN Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,083	Donphan manages to scrape its way into OU every time. I swear, it always seems to be in the 45-50 region. :) __________________ Shedinja fainted!

Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:17:24 AM	#12
Scofield Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh, Kate........mmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,180 By Kate's side	I really wish gallade would've just stayed OU. Normally I wouldn't mind but just from theorymon I'm pretty sure that it can break the new UU. An attack stat high as heracross and gyarados, great typing, amazing movepool and swords dance. The CB set (thanks a lot to psycho cut) also absoultely wrecks shit up. If it woulda stayed OU it just would've saved some time, I think. __________________ Kate Beckinsale is the sun who makes me shine ~ALPHA RUINED~

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:30:39 AM	#1
X-Act np: Biffy Clyro - Shock Shock Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,679 Malta	New OU List (January 2009) Brand new year... Brand new OU list! This list was compiled from statistics of October, November and December taken together, with a bias of 1:3:20 respectively. Code: Aerodactyl Alakazam Azelf Blissey Breloom Bronzong Celebi Cresselia Donphan Dragonite Dugtrio Dusknoir Electivire Empoleon Flygon Forretress Gengar Gliscor Gyarados Heatran Heracross Hippowdon Infernape Jirachi Jolteon Kingdra Lucario Machamp Magnezone Mamoswine Metagross Ninjask Porygon-Z Rhyperior Rotom-A Salamence Scizor Skarmory Snorlax Starmie Suicune Swampert Tentacruel Togekiss Tyranitar Vaporeon Weavile Yanmega Zapdos (49 Pokemon) Three Pokemon are new entries in the OU list. Please welcome Empoleon, Flygon and Rhyperior. Gallade exits the OU list. __________________ http://users.smogon.com/X-Act For all your Pokemon needs (and more!) including: the Defensive EVs applet, the Probabilities of Breeding IVs in Pokemon applet, and the Ratings of Pokemon Base Stats applet (now Version 2.0!). And also the IV to PID applet!

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:33:42 AM	#3
eig Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 50 england	Yay, if Porygon2 hasn't gone up to OU I can use him in the UU test which means no more infernape spoiling its fun.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:56:05 AM	#7
tripe Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 672 in a dream like state	How the hell is Dugtrio still OU?

Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:58:30 AM	#8
welorg Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 11	where is shaymin???

Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:17:39 AM	#13
MetaNite Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,510 NJ-	I'm disapointed Rhyperior isn't usable in the new UU. Nothing resists its STABs there. Oh yeah, except for Torterra. But that's what Megahorn is for. Electivire has reasons for still being OU. First off, Zapdos is in the top 5 meaning Electivire has plenty of chances to come in. And it still has synergy with Gyarados, another top 5. I hardly see Gallade. It doesn't do much and is easily revenge killed. But the Bulk Up set always seems to take down a Pokemon.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 8:19:27 AM	#14
TVboyCanti Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,285 808 state.	Donphans probably the best spinner now that rotom is the #1 spin blocker in OU. Donphan doesn't take super effective damage from any of rotom-Hs attacks, and has assurance/toxic/roar to use against rotom. Starmie can't exactly claim the same. __________________ ... Last edited by TVboyCanti; Jan 2nd, 2009 at 8:22:37 AM.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:06:56 AM	#17
Red Rain Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 59	Nice to see Empoleon there. Everyone says it was under-rated, but now it's got great usage and is finally where it belongs. Rhyperior is a great decision too, he's in my new team for a reason. He's totally underrated. Last edited by Red Rain; Jan 2nd, 2009 at 9:19:21 AM.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:11:16 AM	#18
Legacy Raider Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,829 Scotland- GMT+0	Well, the evil penguin Empoleon is finally OU. Nice to see Rhyperior and Flygon come into that list as well, as they are both of them powerful pokemon of their own accord and Flygon in particular does well in the metagame at present. __________________ Warstories: UU Deathmatch (A) \| Raining on the Parade \| The Great War Breaching the Fortress (A) \| UU - Dodging Bullets (A) \| Mushroom Warfare (OU Warstory) (A)

Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:26:16 AM	#20
Ellington Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 117	Except Altaria. __________________ T'ain't what you do.

Jan 2nd, 2009, 9:46:24 AM	#22
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,509 Kingdom of the Two Seas	Nice to see Empoleon and Rhyperior OU :D. Gallading exiting isn't surprising for me (but so as Electivire still being OU).

Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:38:34 AM	#25
Malfunction Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,519 In a world of white, black, and gray	Yay Flygon in OU. Thanks for this people.