Introduction to Competitive Pokemon - Page 2

Arseus · Jan 26th, 2009, 8:17:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Tangerine

Alright, those who want to help, can you guys be a bit more specific now - meaning

1) I would like to help by writing the initial draft of the article, particularly section X
2) I would like to help by commenting on it after the rough/second/etc drafts and help rewrite/reword certain things as needed
3) "Grammar Check"

I will be assigning everything by tonight or tomorrow morning so it'd be swell if everyone could tell me what they would like to do =]

Arseus: It's far too in-depth than it needs to be for the purposes of the article, but I think we will link to it for "more information" =] Glad to see you were finally badged

Okay, I had a feeling it wasn't exactly in line with what was in mind for the project, but glad to know you had a look at it!

Now, as for anything I can do, I have a much easier semester coming up, after I finish my Math exam on Wednesday. However, I see there are a lot of people who are already eager to help, so I'd like to put my self down for #3 at the very least, and a tentative #2 as well. I'm not 100% sure on the amount of time I'll have on my hands though, so if you need absolute commitment, I can only guarantee enough time for "Grammar Check".

I'd love to help out though, even if it is just a small part!

EDIT: Just one last note, I can only give creative input on D/P stuff, and possibly some rudimentary ADV. I don't have any experience with the other generations! I can still reword/grammar check all generations that need it though.

***jumpluff**** · Jan 26th, 2009, 8:21:49 PM

2. I can definitely give editorial and perspective comments / lend my advice/word suggestions to anyone in the process of 1.

3. Grammar is obviously what I do so of course I'll grammar check

Oh, and re. tiering, I know chaos said he didn't want this to be trends, that this should be the timeless principles, but with explaining NU, should we just mention we don't have NU yet, explain it, and edit it later? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but a lot of people do ask...

Tangerine · Jan 27th, 2009, 9:29:11 AM

I'm still looking to hear back from the other people who have agreed to help but has not specified how they can help out - they should alert me unless they want me to assume they would like to write sections and assign arbitrarily!

ToF · Jan 27th, 2009, 2:59:43 PM

I can also grammar check if necessary.

darkie · Jan 27th, 2009, 3:23:33 PM

i'll do whatever you assign me.

Blue Kirby · Jan 27th, 2009, 3:51:08 PM

I'd be happy doing any section(s), and I can help with grammar too.

SoT · Jan 27th, 2009, 5:55:54 PM

Since I just started playing competitively during D/P, I'd be able to help out with DP and Platinum sections, but it seems others have also expressed interest in helping out with those areas.

Loki · Jan 27th, 2009, 5:58:01 PM

i can look over the stuff for older gens if needed

***Mekkah***** · Jan 27th, 2009, 5:58:27 PM

I can help, with the older generations more than the current ones.

Arkeis · Jan 27th, 2009, 6:02:19 PM

I'll write or contribute to some of the more general ideas of competitive battling i.e. Mechanics Change or Common Terminology sections.

***Jibaku**** · Jan 27th, 2009, 6:08:43 PM

I can help too I guess. I'm not a grammar guy unfortunately, but I can help with addressing misconceptions in a beginner (like ubers are bad, creativity is everything, etc). I "could" help with Advance stuff since I played through it since Emerald came out, but then again that's when I started playing competetively and I probably won't be any help anyways.

Well I'll just say "I can help" as it's pretty universal and it helps to add in missing stuff in several sections rather than completely focused on one section

Shouldn't we mention NetBattle if we're mentioning previous generations? Unless there's some other simulator I'm not aware of.

Calciphoce · Jan 27th, 2009, 7:14:54 PM

My specialty is peer reviews, so handling an editor position to make things flow and sound better would fit like a glove for me. I'm best at regular ol DP, not Platinum. I'd be more than willing to write articles on it.

Man I miss D/P.

Stathakis · Jan 27th, 2009, 7:38:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat darkie

i'll do whatever you assign me.

**kd24** · Jan 27th, 2009, 8:11:45 PM

ive finally gotten a good grip of platinum, would be willing to help with that if you need an extra (although seems like you have a lot of people ready)

***Great Sage***** · Jan 27th, 2009, 8:19:22 PM

I'd probably be best with parts 2 and 3, but I can draft if needed.

Tangerine · Jan 27th, 2009, 8:43:01 PM

Heh, I wonder how good of an idea will it be to delegate each section to a different user but I think given the interest we will see.

Okay! Here are your assignments for the initial draft.

Section 1 will be drafted by Sarenji
Section 2 will be drafted by aragornbird, I saw most of what you have written already and I think we can reuse most of it.
Section 3,4 will be drafted by Tangerine
Section 5 will be drafted by Imran
Section 6 I think should be a group effort - I think aragornbird and Imran can do a good job writing the first initial draft for it though
Section 7 will be drafted by darkie
Section 8 will be drafted by Jibaku
Section 9 will be drafted by Blue Kirby

The reason I have little qualms worrying about the potential stylistic rifts is that I think we can keep everything very simple for the purposes of this guide - the points we are trying to get past is very mechanics oriented. Basically - Keep it as simple and concise as possible. (except for Intro - I chose Sarenji for a reason ^_^)

Please note that everything we are writing is to be generation neutral, so please don't make it anything too specific for a given generation.

PM me the drafts when you guys finish and I'll post them as they come. PM me if you have any questions on what to write, or bring it up in this thread.

maddog · Jan 27th, 2009, 10:00:45 PM

I can work on a section about prediction or whatever else you need me to do.

***Jibaku**** · Jan 28th, 2009, 11:26:35 AM

Tang, exactly how long do you want this to be (for a section anyways)? I've started working on it, but due to my strange urge to describe everything I end up with slightly over a page in Word just describing gimmicks and overreliance on prediction with simple language. Is that too long?

Tangerine · Jan 28th, 2009, 11:43:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Jibaku

Tang, exactly how long do you want this to be (for a section anyways)? I've started working on it, but due to my strange urge to describe everything I end up with slightly over a page in Word just describing gimmicks and overreliance on prediction with simple language. Is that too long?

It should be short and concise - no more than a few sentences for each "bullet point" so to speak.

Arkeis · Jan 30th, 2009, 8:41:38 PM

Well, I've already done Section 2.....in my head. I just have to type it out, but I won't have it done until next Wednesday due to an assignment I'm working on.

***chaos***** · Feb 3rd, 2009, 7:17:57 PM

updates please

darkie · Feb 3rd, 2009, 7:20:01 PM

I'll get my section done this weekend (or before then, even).

Tangerine · Feb 8th, 2009, 2:41:17 AM

Hey guys

I'm just going to ask everyone to finish their sections by this Sunday, the 15th, at the very least. It has gone on long enough. Whoever doesn't finish their sections by then I'll make sure to note to never trust them again regarding a contribution (at least those who doesn't have a good excuse). If you know you can't do it by then let me know in advance so I can start on it.

Regarding Terminology, I'll create a stark thread tomorrow so we can get some terms together. I think that's a more effective way of collecting terms. So aragornbird and imran, you guys dont have to worry about section 6.

Tangerine · Feb 8th, 2009, 7:53:27 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51115

I recommend people to look over and comment on it/edit it/add on to it/reorganize it as necessary. Thanks!

Blue Kirby · Feb 14th, 2009, 10:37:33 PM

Contact has been made!

Jan 26th, 2009, 8:21:49 PM	#27
*jumpluff just came to say hello Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,377 Location: Australia Mentor	2. I can definitely give editorial and perspective comments / lend my advice/word suggestions to anyone in the process of 1. 3. Grammar is obviously what I do so of course I'll grammar check Oh, and re. tiering, I know chaos said he didn't want this to be trends, that this should be the timeless principles, but with explaining NU, should we just mention we don't have NU yet, explain it, and edit it later? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but a lot of people do ask... __________________ Last edited by jumpluff; Jan 26th, 2009 at 8:27:36 PM.

Jan 27th, 2009, 3:23:33 PM	#30
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,353 Plano, TX	i'll do whatever you assign me. __________________

Jan 27th, 2009, 3:51:08 PM	#31
Blue Kirby Keep your hands off my stack. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,814	I'd be happy doing any section(s), and I can help with grammar too. __________________

Jan 27th, 2009, 5:55:54 PM	#32
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	Since I just started playing competitively during D/P, I'd be able to help out with DP and Platinum sections, but it seems others have also expressed interest in helping out with those areas. __________________ Zing!

Jan 27th, 2009, 5:58:27 PM	#34
*Mekkah* pfbwowbfobwobwobfwowbf Administrator** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,835 Most of them are good	I can help, with the older generations more than the current ones. __________________ onions videos cameras models steroids dinoturtlethings

Jan 27th, 2009, 9:29:11 AM	#28
Tangerine Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,132	I'm still looking to hear back from the other people who have agreed to help but has not specified how they can help out - they should alert me unless they want me to assume they would like to write sections and assign arbitrarily!

Jan 27th, 2009, 2:59:43 PM	#29
ToF Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,029	I can also grammar check if necessary.

Jan 27th, 2009, 5:58:01 PM	#33
Loki like seashells Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,934 Meeeeeeechigan	i can look over the stuff for older gens if needed

Jan 27th, 2009, 6:02:19 PM	#35
Arkeis (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ (formerly aragornbird) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,734 Middle-Earth	I'll write or contribute to some of the more general ideas of competitive battling i.e. Mechanics Change or Common Terminology sections. __________________ FRIEND CODE (White): 0346 5541 5572 Trade Thread \| DeviantART

Jan 27th, 2009, 6:08:43 PM	#36
*Jibaku [02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It Super Moderator** Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,909 Foursquare, a sprained ankle, bottlecap ninjas, and wallball	I can help too I guess. I'm not a grammar guy unfortunately, but I can help with addressing misconceptions in a beginner (like ubers are bad, creativity is everything, etc). I "could" help with Advance stuff since I played through it since Emerald came out, but then again that's when I started playing competetively and I probably won't be any help anyways. Well I'll just say "I can help" as it's pretty universal and it helps to add in missing stuff in several sections rather than completely focused on one section Shouldn't we mention NetBattle if we're mentioning previous generations? Unless there's some other simulator I'm not aware of. __________________

Jan 27th, 2009, 7:14:54 PM	#37
Calciphoce Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,713	My specialty is peer reviews, so handling an editor position to make things flow and sound better would fit like a glove for me. I'm best at regular ol DP, not Platinum. I'd be more than willing to write articles on it. Man I miss D/P.

Jan 27th, 2009, 8:11:45 PM	#39
kd24 Surprise Mother Fucker Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,769 HOME	ive finally gotten a good grip of platinum, would be willing to help with that if you need an extra (although seems like you have a lot of people ready)

Jan 27th, 2009, 8:19:22 PM	#40
*Great Sage* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,872 Boston, MA Mentor	I'd probably be best with parts 2 and 3, but I can draft if needed.

Jan 27th, 2009, 8:43:01 PM	#41
Tangerine Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,132	Heh, I wonder how good of an idea will it be to delegate each section to a different user but I think given the interest we will see. Okay! Here are your assignments for the initial draft. Section 1 will be drafted by Sarenji Section 2 will be drafted by aragornbird, I saw most of what you have written already and I think we can reuse most of it. Section 3,4 will be drafted by Tangerine Section 5 will be drafted by Imran Section 6 I think should be a group effort - I think aragornbird and Imran can do a good job writing the first initial draft for it though Section 7 will be drafted by darkie Section 8 will be drafted by Jibaku Section 9 will be drafted by Blue Kirby The reason I have little qualms worrying about the potential stylistic rifts is that I think we can keep everything very simple for the purposes of this guide - the points we are trying to get past is very mechanics oriented. Basically - Keep it as simple and concise as possible. (except for Intro - I chose Sarenji for a reason ^_^) Please note that everything we are writing is to be generation neutral, so please don't make it anything too specific for a given generation. PM me the drafts when you guys finish and I'll post them as they come. PM me if you have any questions on what to write, or bring it up in this thread.

Jan 28th, 2009, 11:26:35 AM	#43
*Jibaku [02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It Super Moderator** Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,909 Foursquare, a sprained ankle, bottlecap ninjas, and wallball	Tang, exactly how long do you want this to be (for a section anyways)? I've started working on it, but due to my strange urge to describe everything I end up with slightly over a page in Word just describing gimmicks and overreliance on prediction with simple language. Is that too long? __________________

Jan 30th, 2009, 8:41:38 PM	#45
Arkeis (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ (formerly aragornbird) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,734 Middle-Earth	Well, I've already done Section 2.....in my head. I just have to type it out, but I won't have it done until next Wednesday due to an assignment I'm working on. __________________ FRIEND CODE (White): 0346 5541 5572 Trade Thread \| DeviantART

Feb 3rd, 2009, 7:17:57 PM	#46
*chaos* chaos Administrator** Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,711	updates please __________________ !gabite fierce: y'd u mute me?? !gabite fierce: eh bro?? !gabite fierce: u scared that i might bash u cuz u r not replying? ~chaos: you can't honestly think that is the reason lol !gabite fierce: tell me the reason oh is it cuz of bolding the writing? !gabite fierce: eh? !gabite fierce: u scared again?

Feb 3rd, 2009, 7:20:01 PM	#47
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,353 Plano, TX	I'll get my section done this weekend (or before then, even). __________________

Feb 8th, 2009, 2:41:17 AM	#48
Tangerine Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,132	Hey guys I'm just going to ask everyone to finish their sections by this Sunday, the 15th, at the very least. It has gone on long enough. Whoever doesn't finish their sections by then I'll make sure to note to never trust them again regarding a contribution (at least those who doesn't have a good excuse). If you know you can't do it by then let me know in advance so I can start on it. Regarding Terminology, I'll create a stark thread tomorrow so we can get some terms together. I think that's a more effective way of collecting terms. So aragornbird and imran, you guys dont have to worry about section 6.

Feb 8th, 2009, 7:53:27 PM	#49
Tangerine Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,132	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51115 I recommend people to look over and comment on it/edit it/add on to it/reorganize it as necessary. Thanks!

Feb 14th, 2009, 10:37:33 PM	#50
Blue Kirby Keep your hands off my stack. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,814	Contact has been made!