The Second Official Create-A-Pokemon Tournament

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:48:07 AM

Is it alright if I start this tournament? I talked to Earthworm already and he said he'd approve, now I just wanted to make sure that the community members approve of the tournament. If you have any comments or concerns feel free to post in this thread.

- I planned on this being a 64-128 man tournament, depending on how many people want to participate. 64 will be the starting number.

- I figure this will be a good way to advertise the server a bit, and give people some incentive to learn this metagame.

- I was thinking maybe putting a limit on the Created Pokemon being used so that people unfamiliar to the metagame don't get overwhelmed by a team of 6 created pokemon. I think 2-3 per team seems like a fairly reasonable number.

polelover44 · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:13:24 AM

I like the idea. I ususally use 2-3 CAPs on my teams, so I think 3 should be the limit. But that's just me.

Veedrock · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:18:55 AM

Sounds good, but you might be pushing it a bit with the participation number.

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:22:26 AM

By the time Sign Up's are completed I'm sure it'll be close to being settled. And with everyone practicing for the first round we'll have an extended deadline for the first round. That's what I thought at least.

Also, Tennisace and Magmortified, would you guys be willing to help out with this?

**shade** · Mar 22nd, 2009, 7:44:45 AM

would it be necessary to include created pokemon in your team to participate?

eric the espeon · Mar 22nd, 2009, 9:33:05 AM

I was wondering how long till someone picked up this idea again, yes please go for it.

However IMO the limit to how many CaPs per team is not a good idea, we had a massive PR thing (CaP Clause) about it for ladder a while ago and it was dismissed. People can adapt to as many CaPs as you can use. It will just make the less common CaPs even rarer.

MapleSandwich · Mar 22nd, 2009, 9:52:52 AM

Awrgh, all the sitewide tournaments hold like 10 people and fill up in three minutes, whereas CAP's tournament has so many? In my opinon, the number's a bit high...but I think we could do it. As for the limit of CAP Pokemon, 3 is the most I think is really viable on any given team for maximum effectiveness.

~~Olie~~ · Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:49:07 AM

I'd love to play just to get a general feel of what playing CaP is like.

Joatmon · Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:54:09 AM

I just started on the CAP server with Kit, but I think I should be able to get a hang of some other Caps by the time the tournament comes by.

And hey guys, I finally registered for here! :D

Bass · Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:59:43 AM

I think it is about time that we have another one of these tournaments, but I think we should keep it on hold until Kitsunoh playtesting ends (which is a little less than a week from now).

I also oppose putting a limitation on the number of CAP pokemon being allowed in the tournament. Really, this is a tournament, and I think familiarizing oneself with the 7 CAP pokemon is a skill that should be rewarded by this tournament.

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:03:05 PM

Alright, so then I'll hold off until the playtesting ends. Do you guys have any other comments/concerns about this?

jrrrrrrr · Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:53:31 PM

That cap sounds about right....A 64 person tournament is a lot tougher to keep track of than you'd think lol.

Also, I don't see the point on putting a limit on the number of CAP Pokemon per team. They were designed with game balance in mind. Why would someone even join this tournament if they had no idea what the CAP Pokemon were?

Kharozz · Mar 22nd, 2009, 1:41:00 PM

It sounds good to me. Also, I think that having at least 1 CAP poke would be good to promote the CAP metagame. Also, replying to jrrrrrr's post above, people shouldn't really join the tournament if they didn't know what CAP pokemon were.

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:05:55 PM

The last one had a ton of people participating in it, I think that had 128, if I'm not mistaken, so that's why I said 64 or 128. Also, since most oppose the CaP pokemon limit, that ideas a no-go. Thanks for feedback!

**billymills** · Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:14:50 PM

In, definitely. I support a limit of 2.

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:19:45 PM

If anything I think the limit would be 3. 1/2 a team seems like a good enough reason, but as others stated above, some of the less seen CaP's would probably be seen even less through the course of the tournament.

The_Dark_Sage · Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:21:10 PM

i'm in.. i say there should be no limit

cyberzero · Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:23:50 PM

No limit would be chaotic. Two is a perfect number. This has the cyber seal of approval, SoT.

tennisace · Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:34:01 PM

Darkie and I had clearance to run this after you left, so if you're going to be back we're willing to help out. 64 sounds like a good number, it's what we had last time and I doubt we'll get 128.

Also I think that a limit is totally stupid, since the whole point of playing in the CAP metagame is to play in the CAP metagame on the ladder. Unless you want to use the testing period metagame, use an unlimited number of CAPs. In reality people who use all CAPs are at a disadvantage to people who don't. All the information necessary is in one thread which is stickied, and people in the know are totally willing to answer any and all questions pertaining to the metagame.

Infiltrator · Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:49:26 PM

I'm glad we're gonna being having one of these again. I entered the first one and didn't get to participate because i didn't show(damn internet connections). This might be my second chance to take part in it.

Fuzznip · Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:51:09 PM

I support this idea. We havn't had one in a while.

I'm totally in this. But, make the rule 0-2/3 caps. What if nobody wants to use them? Or is it a must?

**locopoke** · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:02:28 PM

This sounds like fun, I've never played CAP before but I'd enter just for the hell of it.

Krow · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:36:34 PM

Questions

1. Double Elimination?
2. Can we wait 1-2 weeks after playtesting (to further test CAP pokes against Kits)
3. Best of 3?

SoT · Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:38:22 PM

1) Single Elim
2) We'll see, not sure yet.
3) Between you and your opponent, if you want to Bo3 of it, nothing stopping you.

Krow · Mar 22nd, 2009, 5:19:53 PM

Okay, the only problem I have with Single Elim is the fact that you can lose to hax, which is unpreventable.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:48:07 AM	#1
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	The Second Official Create-A-Pokemon Tournament Is it alright if I start this tournament? I talked to Earthworm already and he said he'd approve, now I just wanted to make sure that the community members approve of the tournament. If you have any comments or concerns feel free to post in this thread. - I planned on this being a 64-128 man tournament, depending on how many people want to participate. 64 will be the starting number. - I figure this will be a good way to advertise the server a bit, and give people some incentive to learn this metagame. - I was thinking maybe putting a limit on the Created Pokemon being used so that people unfamiliar to the metagame don't get overwhelmed by a team of 6 created pokemon. I think 2-3 per team seems like a fairly reasonable number. __________________ Zing! Last edited by SoT; Mar 22nd, 2009 at 3:52:37 AM.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:13:24 AM	#2
polelover44 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,394 Myyyyy Precciousssssss.....	I like the idea. I ususally use 2-3 CAPs on my teams, so I think 3 should be the limit. But that's just me. __________________ "I can't pretend to be much of a judge of poetry, I'm an English teacher, not a homosexual." - Stephen Fry in A Bit of Fry and Laurie An RU team.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:18:55 AM	#3
Veedrock Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,780 Location: Alaska, USA Occupation: Gamer Gamerscore: 84319	Sounds good, but you might be pushing it a bit with the participation number. __________________ Now playing: Minecraft, Street Fighter x Tekken

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:22:26 AM	#4
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	By the time Sign Up's are completed I'm sure it'll be close to being settled. And with everyone practicing for the first round we'll have an extended deadline for the first round. That's what I thought at least. Also, Tennisace and Magmortified, would you guys be willing to help out with this? __________________ Zing!

Mar 22nd, 2009, 7:44:45 AM	#5
shade i don’t have to wait for nobody, i move when i wanna move Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,665 manchester / YORKSHIRE REPRESENT	would it be necessary to include created pokemon in your team to participate? __________________ free rodan

Mar 22nd, 2009, 9:33:05 AM	#6
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	I was wondering how long till someone picked up this idea again, yes please go for it. However IMO the limit to how many CaPs per team is not a good idea, we had a massive PR thing (CaP Clause) about it for ladder a while ago and it was dismissed. People can adapt to as many CaPs as you can use. It will just make the less common CaPs even rarer. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:49:07 AM	#8
~~Olie~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,182 Edmonton	I'd love to play just to get a general feel of what playing CaP is like.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:54:09 AM	#9
Joatmon Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 143	I just started on the CAP server with Kit, but I think I should be able to get a hang of some other Caps by the time the tournament comes by. And hey guys, I finally registered for here! :D

Mar 22nd, 2009, 11:59:43 AM	#10
Bass I'm...feeling...faint... Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,228	I think it is about time that we have another one of these tournaments, but I think we should keep it on hold until Kitsunoh playtesting ends (which is a little less than a week from now). I also oppose putting a limitation on the number of CAP pokemon being allowed in the tournament. Really, this is a tournament, and I think familiarizing oneself with the 7 CAP pokemon is a skill that should be rewarded by this tournament.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:03:05 PM	#11
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	Alright, so then I'll hold off until the playtesting ends. Do you guys have any other comments/concerns about this? __________________ Zing!

Mar 22nd, 2009, 12:53:31 PM	#12
jrrrrrrr wubwubwub Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,130 wubwubwub	That cap sounds about right....A 64 person tournament is a lot tougher to keep track of than you'd think lol. Also, I don't see the point on putting a limit on the number of CAP Pokemon per team. They were designed with game balance in mind. Why would someone even join this tournament if they had no idea what the CAP Pokemon were? __________________ NIGMAN: JRRRR IS A SHIT NIGMAN: HO ESLE THINK IT??

Mar 22nd, 2009, 1:41:00 PM	#13
Kharozz Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 398 Vancouver, BC	It sounds good to me. Also, I think that having at least 1 CAP poke would be good to promote the CAP metagame. Also, replying to jrrrrrr's post above, people shouldn't really join the tournament if they didn't know what CAP pokemon were.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:05:55 PM	#14
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	The last one had a ton of people participating in it, I think that had 128, if I'm not mistaken, so that's why I said 64 or 128. Also, since most oppose the CaP pokemon limit, that ideas a no-go. Thanks for feedback! __________________ Zing!

Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:19:45 PM	#16
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	If anything I think the limit would be 3. 1/2 a team seems like a good enough reason, but as others stated above, some of the less seen CaP's would probably be seen even less through the course of the tournament. __________________ Zing!

Mar 22nd, 2009, 2:21:10 PM	#17
The_Dark_Sage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 71	i'm in.. i say there should be no limit __________________ ~Even though i know, I'll never be your Hero, I'll keep holding on~

Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:34:01 PM	#19
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,344	Darkie and I had clearance to run this after you left, so if you're going to be back we're willing to help out. 64 sounds like a good number, it's what we had last time and I doubt we'll get 128. Also I think that a limit is totally stupid, since the whole point of playing in the CAP metagame is to play in the CAP metagame on the ladder. Unless you want to use the testing period metagame, use an unlimited number of CAPs. In reality people who use all CAPs are at a disadvantage to people who don't. All the information necessary is in one thread which is stickied, and people in the know are totally willing to answer any and all questions pertaining to the metagame. __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:49:26 PM	#20
Infiltrator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,006 infiltrating smogon....	I'm glad we're gonna being having one of these again. I entered the first one and didn't get to participate because i didn't show(damn internet connections). This might be my second chance to take part in it. __________________ Previously know as The_Hybrid Server Shoddy username: Hybrid, Infiltrator.

Mar 22nd, 2009, 3:51:09 PM	#21
Fuzznip Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,243 Calgary, Alberta	I support this idea. We havn't had one in a while. I'm totally in this. But, make the rule 0-2/3 caps. What if nobody wants to use them? Or is it a must? __________________ DougJustDoug: Fuzznip -- you are more altruistic than I am. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs41/f/20...urple_hill.png

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:02:28 PM	#22
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,746	This sounds like fun, I've never played CAP before but I'd enter just for the hell of it. __________________

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:36:34 PM	#23
Krow Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 76	Questions 1. Double Elimination? 2. Can we wait 1-2 weeks after playtesting (to further test CAP pokes against Kits) 3. Best of 3?

Mar 22nd, 2009, 4:38:22 PM	#24
SoT Yes please! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 my avatar > yours	1) Single Elim 2) We'll see, not sure yet. 3) Between you and your opponent, if you want to Bo3 of it, nothing stopping you. __________________ Zing!

Mar 22nd, 2009, 5:19:53 PM	#25
Krow Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 76	Okay, the only problem I have with Single Elim is the fact that you can lose to hax, which is unpreventable.