Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[Osostewie]

Thanks guys and im having trouble hitting my seed but i'll get it and one more thing like say i somehow got 9999 coins, could i RNG a porygon form the game corner?

[Zerofocus]

Can't you just hatch one?

[Bakus]

It's the same feeling as RNGing a starter, lol.
It would be nifty, not sure if it's possible...but it'd be pretty cool, lol.

[Osostewie]

Hmmm to tell you the truth, breeding didnt even come to mind :P and i think i will do that im going to breed me a nice shiny porygon! now to figure out how... lol

[Zerofocus]

Same way you're doing your current shiny egg lol.

[Osostewie]

Originally Posted by Fat Zerofocus

Same way you're doing your current shiny egg lol.

well i was actually messing around in the GTS like i offered a clone of my perfect mewtwo for any level porygon lol

[Zerofocus]

Oh you mean how to get a porygon in the first place haha

[Calamity]

Definitely possible to get shiny Porygon from the Game Corner. I did it myself. It didn't have a good Hidden Power though...so I got another one, regular coloration, with HP Fighting 70.

19998 coins damn well spent. Boredom killed.

[Osostewie]

Originally Posted by Fat Calamity

Definitely possible to get shiny Porygon from the Game Corner. I did it myself. It didn't have a good Hidden Power though...so I got another one, regular coloration, with HP Fighting 70.

19998 coins damn well spent. Boredom killed.

man i pray you have an AR

[Calamity]

I don't. But I like playing Voltorb Flip...>_>

[Zerofocus]

Ha I suck at that game

[Osostewie]

haha wow if there is a way i could give you coins i would and whats the most you have ever gotten from one set of voltorb flip? and so i get a JOLLY porygon with 31 iv's in sp att. PPPOORR QQQUUUEEE!!!!!!!!!

[Calamity]

I dunno, I just play. I usually make over 2000 each time I play. I should keep track of how long I play for.

To be on topic, I have a question.

As I've searched, the encounter slots for headbutting Pokemon haven't been calculated yet. People have been able to do it, though.

I'm assuming headbutted Pokes are Method K. Does headbutting advance the frame? (I haven't tried RNGing from headbutt yet myself because I'm currently saved in front of Lugia)

[Osostewie]

so i just got a porygon thats mild 31/29/10/20/13/29 and one thats timid with 31 iv's in sp att, could i RNG breed these?

[Wulf]

Originally Posted by Fat Zerofocus

Wulf - having your radio on affects the responses. Sometimes your radio will change your starting frames so although it may seem your responses are wrong, you are just starting at a higher frame in the same seed. Use the Elm Response Finder to verify this.

hmmm... how would I know if the radio is on and how exactly would I turn it off?

[Zerofocus]

I'd just breed one of those with a flawless ditto if I were you.

[Osostewie]

Originally Posted by Fat Zerofocus

I'd just breed one of those with a flawless ditto if I were you.

i wish i had one and the only pokemon i have to trade is a flawless mewtwo...

[ninja_kitty143]

Hi guys, having a major issue with DPPt RNGing.

I can make it up all the way to picking up my egg from the daycare with the (supposedly) flawless IVs. This has never been the case. I can barely get one IV to be 31, let alone all six, or even four. I've settle with four at this point.

No, none of the NPCs move.
Yes, I do use AR when RNGing.
No, I do not preload my codes. I hand select them every time.
Yes, I am on the right frame.
Yes, my seconds are always the same.
EDIT: yes I do always start the game at the top of the minute

No, my delay is not always the same. This is my problem. Despite seconds being the same and frame being the same, I cannot, for the life of me, nail the same delay. So my questions are thus:

1. What does delay mean? Don't tell me, "it's basically seconds." Give me the exact definition of the delay. Do not use the word "seconds." I'm sick of people telling me this when I know it's more than seconds.

2. Why can I not hit the same delay, despite frame and seconds being the same every time?

3. What can I do to fix this?

[Wulf]

1. What does delay mean? Don't tell me, "it's basically seconds." Give me the exact definition of the delay. Do not use the word "seconds." I'm sick of people telling me this when I know it's more than seconds.

2. Why can I not hit the same delay, despite frame and seconds being the same every time?

3. What can I do to fix this?

The delay occurs right when you see the game intro and ends once you hit continue on your save file, it advances really fast so it can vary to a large extent (not sure how large, perhaps miliseconds), this is probably why you can not hit the same delay every time, there is no exact way to "fix this" except to keep trying until you can hit your delay

EDIT: I am currently experimenting with pikatimer, and I believe it lets you adjust your times (the "other delay" feature) so you can more easily hit your delay, hope it helps you.

[Bakus]

One delay is approximately 1/60th of a second. Thus...same second can have varying delays of course. This is why when it boils down to it, there is a luck factor to RNGing. To fix this: Get better (more proficient) at using pikatimer if you can't do it by emloop. That's really the only way, haha.

As for NPC movements. I've read/heard that even when NPC doesn't move, they "can" be advancing the frame because there is an advancement for telling them "don't move"
This is why, because DPPT breeding has more than 1 NPC, it's nice to calibrate and make sure your frames are good. That's not your problem though, just wanted to add it.

[reklaw_vahn]

If one accidentally clicks on the bag option rather than the pokegear option, does this advance the frame at all?

[Wulf]

Strange.. whenever I search elm responses via RNG reporter, it's search results are off from whatever I had input... could anyone tell me why?

[Osthato]

I'm trying to RNG Groudon and the frame advancement is being really screwy.

1st Trial: Advanced frame 9 times, resultant frame 15, 21, 23, or 25
2nd Trial: Advanced 13, got 17 or 21
3rd Trial: Advanced 9, got 11, 13, 17, 21
4th Trial: Advanced 16, got 23, 25, 29, 33

What's going on? I can give a little more detailed info regarding the trial Groudons if needed.

(Seed: 860f0325, delay 795, 8/10/2010 15:04:50, frame advancements with Elm, synchronize Adamant, wanted frames 10, 14, 24, 26, 28)

[DDyPhoenix]

I just came back and encountered an interesting problem. I am attempting to RNG a flawless Porygon on Diamond. My problem is that I landed on a frame of 6, and I verified it a number of times, so I do my journal flip to 8 and verified it a number of times. I then hit my second and delay twice, both times I landed on frame 7 after the flip somehow? What is happening that I'm only going to odd frames when I hit my second and delay? Any help would be tremendously appreciated.

[Bakus]

Not much to say there but blame the RNG movements I suppose. Resave when you see that the two cowgirls and pachirisu doesn't move and retry it again on that save, lol.