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Biosci · Nov 5th, 2011, 9:10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat jones115

Eontimer sucks for me it has you all over the place in platinum ,zomgtimer is the bomb :)

Could be you computer, Eontimer is so awesome for DPPt Abuse :D

Princess of Johto · Nov 5th, 2011, 10:24:02 PM

Is Starter Abuse on a cart on Platinum impossible, or can it be done? If it can be done, what's the process? And does each starter have a specific starting frame? What's the recommended target frame?

I'm going to abuse for a Timid and Modest HP Grass spread and I'd love to RNG my Piplup starter with it, but I'm afraid the Method 1 frame is a bit high (41) so I wanted to make sure of the process before I tried. If that frame is too high I'd still like to RNG for IVs.

This is all if Platinum starter abuse is possible on a game cartridge. If not... boo :(

Winters Zombie · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Is Starter Abuse on a cart on Platinum impossible, or can it be done? If it can be done, what's the process? And does each starter have a specific starting frame? What's the recommended target frame?

I'm going to abuse for a Timid and Modest HP Grass spread and I'd love to RNG my Piplup starter with it, but I'm afraid the Method 1 frame is a bit high (41) so I wanted to make sure of the process before I tried. If that frame is too high I'd still like to RNG for IVs.

This is all if Platinum starter abuse is possible on a game cartridge. If not... boo :(

It is possible, but you have no clue how difficult it is. There are 2-3 NPCs that advance the frame at anywhere between 4-22 frame per second. No way to make them stop.

Each starter has a frame of 1. Doesn't change between them.

Princess of Johto · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:18:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Winters Zombie

It is possible, but you have no clue how difficult it is. There are 2-3 NPCs that advance the frame at anywhere between 4-22 frame per second. No way to make them stop.

Each starter has a frame of 1. Doesn't change between them.

4-22? :o That's a lot... I guess it's luck based, then. I'll attempt it :P

But I've run into a different problem. Idk why, but abusing my Platinum ID/SID is just not working. I keep hitting odd AND even delays and I have no idea why. I tried using a different time and multiple different years but I still haven't hit my target delay. Should I try a different date rather than just a different time? Or maybe I'll just have to somehow hit my delay :P

Winters Zombie · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:20:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

4-22? :o That's a lot... I guess it's luck based, then. I'll attempt it :P

But I've run into a different problem. Idk why, but abusing my Platinum ID/SID is just not working. I keep hitting odd AND even delays and I have no idea why. I tried using a different time and multiple different years but I still haven't hit my target delay. Should I try a different date rather than just a different time? Or maybe I'll just have to somehow hit my delay :P

It is super difficult to get without an emulator. As you don't have access to a delay check, a frame check, or a way to advance the frame except via NPC.

Try using a completely different date.

Princess of Johto · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:23:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Winters Zombie

It is super difficult to get without an emulator. As you don't have access to a delay check, a frame check, or a way to advance the frame except via NPC.

Try using a completely different date.

I can check my delay by checking the IVs of the starter (via AR) but other than that it's not in my control. It seems similar to HGSS starter abuse (Which I have done and succeeded at, but it was completely due to luck). I'll try my luck :)

Ok, I'll try that now.

Winters Zombie · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:29:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

I can check my delay by checking the IVs of the starter (via AR) but other than that it's not in my control. It seems similar to HGSS starter abuse (Which I have done and succeeded at, but it was completely due to luck). I'll try my luck :)

Ok, I'll try that now.

Well, there is that, but it takes a lot longer than Coin Flip :P

If it doesn't work tell me, and I'll try to figure out what's going down.

Princess of Johto · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:31:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Winters Zombie

If it doesn't work tell me, and I'll try to figure out what's going down.

Well my target is (or was) 6551, but I just hit 6552. So should I change the year to make my target 6552, or try again and see if I get an odd delay?

Winters Zombie · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:32:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Well my target is (or was) 6551, but I just hit 6552. So should I change the year to make my target 6552, or try again and see if I get an odd delay?

Change the year and see if it helps.

Princess of Johto · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:46:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Winters Zombie

Change the year and see if it helps.

So far, so good. Got 6554 twice in a row (Target: 6552) so I think it's going to stay even. Thanks! I guess changing the date goes a long way :P

Winters Zombie · Nov 6th, 2011, 2:47:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

So far, so good. Got 6554 twice in a row (Target: 6552) so I think it's going to stay even. Thanks! I guess changing the date goes a long way :P

The game doesn't know how to make up it's mind (memory chip...?) sometimes.

kittenmay · Nov 6th, 2011, 3:58:48 PM

Can someone help me with the steps on how to RNG HG roamers in the champions room?

pedrokabu · Nov 7th, 2011, 12:58:48 PM

What is the best Unova Pokémon Center to WonderCard RNG?

EDIT: @Hozu: I was suspecting it, but it's better to get this info confirmed. Thanks!

Hozu · Nov 7th, 2011, 1:10:13 PM

The Pokemon center at the Pokemon League. No moving NPCs.

ff7Cloud · Nov 7th, 2011, 1:45:59 PM

This may be a dumb question, but does the current version (9.81) or 8.31 versions of the RNG reporter work with emerald?

Princess of Johto · Nov 7th, 2011, 2:58:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ff7Cloud

This may be a dumb question, but does the current version (9.81) or 8.31 versions of the RNG reporter work with emerald?

As far as I know they both work. I'm not completely positive, though.

Edit: 1K post yay. Lol my post count is just going to go down again when the DMP/SQSR are deleted, but oh well :P

**V4Victini** · Nov 7th, 2011, 6:46:29 PM

Can you RNG in 4G w/ an AR DS/DSi?

Biosci · Nov 7th, 2011, 6:55:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat V4Victini

Can you RNG in 4G w/ an AR DS/DSi?

Yes you can, hence my 100% captured Heatran.

Princess of Johto · Nov 7th, 2011, 9:01:37 PM

Alright, I'm sadly in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to RNG my starter in Pt. and my target frame is 41.

I keep consistently hitting frame 39 after about 4 or 5 seconds of waiting (I wait for my rival to turn, once he does I know I hit 39). But if I try waiting any longer after my rival moves, the frames jumps past 41. Is there any possible way to advance the frame without NPCs? Does saving work? Would interacting with one of the NPCs change the frame advancement pattern? I'm asking for anything that would help me reach my target frame.

Thanks in advance :)

P.S. WZ's white man luck was not enough. xD

Biosci · Nov 7th, 2011, 9:07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Alright, I'm sadly in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to RNG my starter in Pt. and my target frame is 41.

I keep consistently hitting frame 39 after about 4 or 5 seconds of waiting (I wait for my rival to turn, once he does I know I hit 39). But if I try waiting any longer after my rival moves, the frames jumps past 41. Is there any possible way to advance the frame without NPCs? Does saving work? Would interacting with one of the NPCs change the frame advancement pattern? I'm asking for anything that would help me reach my target frame.

Thanks in advance :)

P.S. WZ's white man luck was not enough. xD

I believe you can advance the frame by walking around in the grass, but I don't think you can do that :/

OmegaForte · Nov 7th, 2011, 9:17:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Alright, I'm sadly in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to RNG my starter in Pt. and my target frame is 41.

I keep consistently hitting frame 39 after about 4 or 5 seconds of waiting (I wait for my rival to turn, once he does I know I hit 39). But if I try waiting any longer after my rival moves, the frames jumps past 41. Is there any possible way to advance the frame without NPCs? Does saving work? Would interacting with one of the NPCs change the frame advancement pattern? I'm asking for anything that would help me reach my target frame.

Thanks in advance :)

P.S. WZ's white man luck was not enough. xD

I'm not sure, but saving again might get you to your target. As in, the NPCs moving differently, thus probably aiming to your target spread.

The grass won't work as you can' walk on it before that event.

Princess of Johto · Nov 7th, 2011, 9:47:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Biosci

I believe you can advance the frame by walking around in the grass, but I don't think you can do that :/

Yeah, I can't get to the grass since Barry won't let me >.>

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaForte

I'm not sure, but saving again might get you to your target. As in, the NPCs moving differently, thus probably aiming to your target spread.

Thanks for the tip! I forgot that resaving changes NPCs starting positions and their advancement pattern. I just hit my delay and landed on frame 46... so I hope interacting with the suitcase 1 second or half a second earlier will land me on 41. But I kind of doubt it since the NPCs advance by a lot more than 5 in one second.

So I might just have to keep resaving :/ Thanks again :)

Edit: I wonder if picking a starter from the suitcase and then press "No" advances the frame. I highly doubt it but seriously I'm willing to test anything right now xD

Hozu · Nov 8th, 2011, 9:48:42 PM

Ok I'm trying to RNG for Articuno in Platinum but for some reason I'm having issues. My spread is on frame 163, and Articuno is in frame 11. I do 76 Journal flips and I get Articuno on frame 164 but when I do 73 flips + 128 steps w/ 5 pokemon I get it on frame 162. 74 flips + 4 pokemon still gave frame 164. What gives?

jones115 · Nov 8th, 2011, 10:10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

Ok I'm trying to RNG for Articuno in Platinum but for some reason I'm having issues. My spread is on frame 163, and Articuno is in frame 11. I do 76 Journal flips and I get Articuno on frame 164 but when I do 73 flips + 128 steps w/ 5 pokemon I get it on frame 162. 74 flips + 4 pokemon still gave frame 164. What gives?

am assuming you are using method 1,and have you captured any of the birds yet

Hozu · Nov 8th, 2011, 10:14:59 PM

Yeah Method 1, no birds have ever been released, no roamers roaming.

Edit: I'm going to try for the other birds first. See if that does something different.

Nov 5th, 2011, 10:24:02 PM	#35952
Princess of Johto Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,630 Ohio	Is Starter Abuse on a cart on Platinum impossible, or can it be done? If it can be done, what's the process? And does each starter have a specific starting frame? What's the recommended target frame? I'm going to abuse for a Timid and Modest HP Grass spread and I'd love to RNG my Piplup starter with it, but I'm afraid the Method 1 frame is a bit high (41) so I wanted to make sure of the process before I tried. If that frame is too high I'd still like to RNG for IVs. This is all if Platinum starter abuse is possible on a game cartridge. If not... boo :( __________________ » My Pokemon » BW Entralink PID+IV abuse guide » BW ID/SID+shiny starter abuse guide » HGSS Safari Zone abuse guide » Pokecheck Box On hiatus. Possibly retired.

Nov 6th, 2011, 3:58:48 PM	#35962
kittenmay Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 637 gosh your lips look delicious	Can someone help me with the steps on how to RNG HG roamers in the champions room? __________________ [17:32:24] <~Earthworm> hello [17:32:34] <~Earthworm> a kitten in may will be a cat in october

Nov 7th, 2011, 12:58:48 PM	#35963
pedrokabu Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 128 Bahia, Brazil (GMT-2)	What is the best Unova Pokémon Center to WonderCard RNG? EDIT: @Hozu: I was suspecting it, but it's better to get this info confirmed. Thanks! __________________ @pedrogsena at Twitter FC Black: 1120 0094 6679 FC White: 4384 1997 9633 Trade Thread - Giveaway (finished; winners, please VM) Have you ever tried to punch a bird? Last edited by pedrokabu; Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:13:29 PM. Reason: Thanks Hozu

Nov 7th, 2011, 1:10:13 PM	#35964
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	The Pokemon center at the Pokemon League. No moving NPCs. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Nov 7th, 2011, 6:46:29 PM	#35967
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Nov 7th, 2011, 1:45:59 PM	#35965
ff7Cloud Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 66	This may be a dumb question, but does the current version (9.81) or 8.31 versions of the RNG reporter work with emerald?

Nov 7th, 2011, 9:01:37 PM	#35969
Princess of Johto Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,630 Ohio	Alright, I'm sadly in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to RNG my starter in Pt. and my target frame is 41. I keep consistently hitting frame 39 after about 4 or 5 seconds of waiting (I wait for my rival to turn, once he does I know I hit 39). But if I try waiting any longer after my rival moves, the frames jumps past 41. Is there any possible way to advance the frame without NPCs? Does saving work? Would interacting with one of the NPCs change the frame advancement pattern? I'm asking for anything that would help me reach my target frame. Thanks in advance :) P.S. WZ's white man luck was not enough. xD __________________ » My Pokemon » BW Entralink PID+IV abuse guide » BW ID/SID+shiny starter abuse guide » HGSS Safari Zone abuse guide » Pokecheck Box On hiatus. Possibly retired.

Nov 8th, 2011, 9:48:42 PM	#35973
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	Ok I'm trying to RNG for Articuno in Platinum but for some reason I'm having issues. My spread is on frame 163, and Articuno is in frame 11. I do 76 Journal flips and I get Articuno on frame 164 but when I do 73 flips + 128 steps w/ 5 pokemon I get it on frame 162. 74 flips + 4 pokemon still gave frame 164. What gives? __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Nov 8th, 2011, 10:14:59 PM	#35975
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	Yeah Method 1, no birds have ever been released, no roamers roaming. Edit: I'm going to try for the other birds first. See if that does something different. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck. Last edited by Hozu; Nov 8th, 2011 at 10:32:57 PM.