Most Generation PRNG Help / Information - Page 3

Invictus · Mar 23rd, 2009, 7:00:38 PM

I have both versions, so I can help out.

Syberia · Mar 23rd, 2009, 7:11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Tri-DarkSouls

Does Synchronize work to narrow down spreads? Is it possible to leave giratina untouched for testing later on? Ill be testing what i can later on

Run away from Giratina in Torn World, he will appear in Turnback Cave after the E4.

Wiil · Mar 23rd, 2009, 7:46:01 PM

Alright mingot. You can send me a PM whenever you get that done.

VileTung · Mar 24th, 2009, 9:26:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mingot

@ Vile -- We need to discuss this a bit more, maybe tomorrow when you are awake again.

@ Artemis -- When we get a little further we're probably going to need people to just test the theories a bit. I am doing some work on my software so that hopefully we can get to that point soon.

Ok, I'm home from school, and well I just want to say that I got yesterday the same spread twice, well it took me 1 hour to get it again, but I'm not sure if I was doing it right, I think I was lucky.

LightningFusion · Mar 24th, 2009, 1:04:33 PM

Did you adjust you're clock each time? That must have been annoying.

VileTung · Mar 24th, 2009, 1:18:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat LightningFusion

Did you adjust you're clock each time? That must have been annoying.

Yes, it's quite annoying, but if that helps to get use amazing Platinum Legends!

LightningFusion · Mar 24th, 2009, 1:19:25 PM

True, it is worth it in the long run. I might do this with heatran or another legendary.

***mingot***** · Mar 24th, 2009, 1:22:28 PM

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LightningFusion · Mar 24th, 2009, 3:19:41 PM

I'm going to do the same thing Vlie did for Heatran.

I'm going to write down all the spreads I get in case I get a different the same time besides my original one. I'll be standing right in front of heatran.

Edit: I suck at the timing stuff so it may take my longer than Vlie.

Edit:

wow i got lucky. I got 2 heatran's with the same IVs and nature. :)

I changed the way I was doing the timing thing for me since I suck and it worked.

VileTung · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:00:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mingot

@Vlie - Were you just timing the time on the continue screen or also the time of the capture? I am curious if the RNG runs per frame as it does in Emerald. The Japanese site says something about the number of steps taken which would be an interesting change.

Well I started the battle when I hit the time I wanted.

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Originally Posted by Fat LightningFusion

I'm going to do the same thing Vlie did for Heatran.

I'm going to write down all the spreads I get in case I get a different the same time besides my original one. I'll be standing right in front of heatran.

Edit: I suck at the timing stuff so it may take my longer than Vlie.

Edit:

wow i got lucky. I got 2 heatran's with the same IVs and nature. :)

I changed the way I was doing the timing thing for me since I suck and it worked.

It's very annoying to change the time the whole time. But congrats.

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:21:57 AM

Thanks Vlie. After I'm done with some stuff I'm going to try breeding with the same time as my Heatran and see what IVs get passed.

VileTung · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat LightningFusion

Thanks Vlie. After I'm done with some stuff I'm going to try breeding with the same time as my Heatran and see what IVs get passed.

Ok, I wish you good luck, I can't do it anymore, because my R4 is acting weird, so I have to wait till 22nd May so I can buy it here.

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:31:57 PM

I'm going to wait to test the breeding stuff until I get a quick egg hatch code.

***mingot***** · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:34:09 PM

I'd test with catches and not breeds, to be honest. Much easier that way to find a location.

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:36:49 PM

Ok. What do you suggest I test now, since 2 of us got spreads to repeat?

***mingot***** · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:45:20 PM

Well the thing I am curious about it the talk of taking steps in the Jp guide. Leads me to believe catches might be step based instead of time based. Would seem odd for that to be the case though.

Also, how many tries to get the same spread?

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:48:55 PM

After I got a way I could be more consistent, I started a new spread. I wrote done everyone's stats and time. I got my 3rd and my 6th reset to match. There may have been 2 extra failures between their (like I messed up on timing and didn't write it down). I got it within a half hour, I think 20ish minutes.

I'll try SRing in front of Dialga/Palkia and taking a step forward sometime this weekend because I won't be able to tomorrow.

***mingot***** · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:54:18 PM

Care to share your method for being consistent?

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 9:57:54 PM

I set my time to 15:17. turn off, on ds. At 15:17:15s I hit A (start the game) and start my timer. I rapidly hit A and start until the continue screen. Once there, I wait till 20.4s total and hit A and then on my timer hit lap so it starts over at 0 and keeps previous time. Then I wait till 9.1 seconds in game to hit A to fight pokemon. It works for me. Time on continue screen is about 5.6 seconds.

Pink · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:11:30 PM

Well, when I beat the game I'll join in on this.

Wouldn't the best way to do this be setting the clock to like 12:00 then just SMASHING "A" until you get to the battle, chuck a masterball as quickly as possible, and just try to get all timing super quick?

LightningFusion · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:14:31 PM

That could work sorta. You don't need to chuck the ball as fast as possible. As soon as you click A to battle it, it gets its ivs, natures, etc. Some problems may be Turning on your DS and hitting the tap to confirm crap then a to start the game me be off. Thats why I waited to 15 seconds, to give me enough time.

Pink · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:18:28 PM

Oh yeah. And you can hit A to enter the game select screen and stuff...

TDS · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:35:23 PM

Meh I set the time to 12 and keep mashing the A button WITH A SYNCHRONIZER and got the same natured same Iv'd pokemon 3 out out of 10 tries

Pink · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:39:50 PM

That's what I'd do too TDS.

thetorsoboy · Mar 25th, 2009, 10:45:28 PM

Well, we've known this would be the case, really.

Mar 23rd, 2009, 7:46:01 PM	#53
Wiil Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 444 North Carolina	Alright mingot. You can send me a PM whenever you get that done. __________________ BEST SR TO DATE: Jolly #492 TRU Shaymin: 29 / 31 / 28 / x / 31 / 31 - Now a physical SubSeed Shaymin Previously known as Artemis Fowl

Mar 24th, 2009, 1:04:33 PM	#55
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	Did you adjust you're clock each time? That must have been annoying. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 24th, 2009, 1:19:25 PM	#57
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	True, it is worth it in the long run. I might do this with heatran or another legendary. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 24th, 2009, 1:22:28 PM	#58
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Mar 24th, 2009, 3:19:41 PM	#59
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	I'm going to do the same thing Vlie did for Heatran. I'm going to write down all the spreads I get in case I get a different the same time besides my original one. I'll be standing right in front of heatran. Edit: I suck at the timing stuff so it may take my longer than Vlie. Edit: wow i got lucky. I got 2 heatran's with the same IVs and nature. :) I changed the way I was doing the timing thing for me since I suck and it worked. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's Last edited by LightningFusion; Mar 24th, 2009 at 4:10:29 PM.

Mar 23rd, 2009, 7:00:38 PM	#51
Invictus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 915	I have both versions, so I can help out.

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:21:57 AM	#61
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	Thanks Vlie. After I'm done with some stuff I'm going to try breeding with the same time as my Heatran and see what IVs get passed. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:31:57 PM	#63
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	I'm going to wait to test the breeding stuff until I get a quick egg hatch code. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:34:09 PM	#64
*mingot* free agent Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,045	I'd test with catches and not breeds, to be honest. Much easier that way to find a location. __________________ Check out the new In-Game section! RNG Reporter/RNG Help Thread (Discuss) RNG Research Thread

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:36:49 PM	#65
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	Ok. What do you suggest I test now, since 2 of us got spreads to repeat? __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:45:20 PM	#66
*mingot* free agent Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,045	Well the thing I am curious about it the talk of taking steps in the Jp guide. Leads me to believe catches might be step based instead of time based. Would seem odd for that to be the case though. Also, how many tries to get the same spread? __________________ Check out the new In-Game section! RNG Reporter/RNG Help Thread (Discuss) RNG Research Thread

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:48:55 PM	#67
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	After I got a way I could be more consistent, I started a new spread. I wrote done everyone's stats and time. I got my 3rd and my 6th reset to match. There may have been 2 extra failures between their (like I messed up on timing and didn't write it down). I got it within a half hour, I think 20ish minutes. I'll try SRing in front of Dialga/Palkia and taking a step forward sometime this weekend because I won't be able to tomorrow. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:54:18 PM	#68
*mingot* free agent Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,045	Care to share your method for being consistent? __________________ Check out the new In-Game section! RNG Reporter/RNG Help Thread (Discuss) RNG Research Thread

Mar 25th, 2009, 9:57:54 PM	#69
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	I set my time to 15:17. turn off, on ds. At 15:17:15s I hit A (start the game) and start my timer. I rapidly hit A and start until the continue screen. Once there, I wait till 20.4s total and hit A and then on my timer hit lap so it starts over at 0 and keeps previous time. Then I wait till 9.1 seconds in game to hit A to fight pokemon. It works for me. Time on continue screen is about 5.6 seconds. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:11:30 PM	#70
Pink Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,576 UMass Amherst	Well, when I beat the game I'll join in on this. Wouldn't the best way to do this be setting the clock to like 12:00 then just SMASHING "A" until you get to the battle, chuck a masterball as quickly as possible, and just try to get all timing super quick? __________________ Name: Pink FC: 3179 2610 3046 Pink's shoppe Now trading through PM. Win my thread! Amazing avatar by Headpunch!

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:14:31 PM	#71
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	That could work sorta. You don't need to chuck the ball as fast as possible. As soon as you click A to battle it, it gets its ivs, natures, etc. Some problems may be Turning on your DS and hitting the tap to confirm crap then a to start the game me be off. Thats why I waited to 15 seconds, to give me enough time. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:18:28 PM	#72
Pink Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,576 UMass Amherst	Oh yeah. And you can hit A to enter the game select screen and stuff... __________________ Name: Pink FC: 3179 2610 3046 Pink's shoppe Now trading through PM. Win my thread! Amazing avatar by Headpunch!

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:35:23 PM	#73
TDS Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,133 Where there is cheese	Meh I set the time to 12 and keep mashing the A button WITH A SYNCHRONIZER and got the same natured same Iv'd pokemon 3 out out of 10 tries __________________ Top 16 Pokemon VGC Newark Regionals 2010 3rd Place Pokemon VGC Nationals 2011 17th Place Pokemon VGC Worlds 2011

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:39:50 PM	#74
Pink Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,576 UMass Amherst	That's what I'd do too TDS. __________________ Name: Pink FC: 3179 2610 3046 Pink's shoppe Now trading through PM. Win my thread! Amazing avatar by Headpunch!

Mar 25th, 2009, 10:45:28 PM	#75
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