Most Generation PRNG Help / Information - Page 45

LightningFusion · Apr 9th, 2009, 10:55:53 PM

It is most likely that he didn't tap enough or tapped to much. Or maybe he entered the wrong IVs or picked the wrong original seed.

Going for 3047 taps :(

Lightsabre · Apr 9th, 2009, 10:57:43 PM

no, I just found out what was wrong, and I feel so stupid. you have to click generate for every SID/ID combo you insert, so he was looking at MY spreads and trying to get them. he's going for a different spread that's HIS now. thanks for the reply though, and good luck with those taps. I find it nessicary to write down every hundred I get so I don't lose track

OmegaX · Apr 9th, 2009, 10:58:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mingot

It's been figured out, just waiting on documentation and new software (which is really done now so just documentation). Warning -- It's not like Emerald and it WILL test your patience and sanity. Some with good parents will likely opt to continue the old fashioned way.

It's good to know that it's been figured out, too bad that it isn't as easy to exploit as Emerald but if people can manage to time their button presses down to the miliseconds then there is always hope.
For those that have Emerald and D/P/Pt they can always get perfect parents on Emerald, pal park and get shiny offspring with a 1 in 4000+ chance of success for quintuple flawless pokemon. That's what I plan to do eventually after breeding the perfect Scizor yet again :P

Sixonesix · Apr 9th, 2009, 11:00:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Adamco13

Thank God..

Nothing wrong with being able to get everything by yourself...isn't that how most video games work?

Miltonic · Apr 9th, 2009, 11:09:59 PM

I think, i'll stick with the old fashioned way since I don't like testing my sanity too much lol Resetting this shiny feebas will probably be the last thing I breed since It was always one of my wants and im glad this was discovred.

Syberia · Apr 9th, 2009, 11:21:35 PM

I've done the breed perfect Emerald parents and SR a Platinum shiny twice now, it's really not too difficult, so long as Hidden Powers aren't involved.

justenough215 · Apr 10th, 2009, 12:13:18 AM

So this does work for all four gen games. I was thinking it might but i never read up to see how the platinum RNG is different from diamond and pearl.

Veedrock · Apr 10th, 2009, 12:13:50 AM

Wait, this works in D/P now? The whole reason I got Platinum was for the RNG .-.

Thanks for all the hard work everyone. It's not appreciated enough.

Syberia · Apr 10th, 2009, 12:19:32 AM

Apparently yes, it works in D/P now. There seems to have been some misinformation floating around out there saying that D/P's RNG was different, but it doesn't look like it is.

Frozen_Spirit · Apr 10th, 2009, 1:17:56 AM

Quick question. I dont have an AR so i dont know my SID and the wireless router i have is blocking the ds(i tried everything to fix it) and i remember reading somewhere that if you catch a shiny pokemon you can find your SID by looking at the IVs and nature. Is it true for chained pokemon?

Emloop can find the SID right?

Jayson · Apr 10th, 2009, 1:24:03 AM

Will Honey work the same way as Sweet Scent?

Syberia · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat jpaman

Quick question. I dont have an AR so i dont know my SID and the wireless router i have is blocking the ds(i tried everything to fix it) and i remember reading somewhere that if you catch a shiny pokemon you can find your SID by looking at the IVs and nature. Is it true for chained pokemon?

It is not true for chained pokemon. Chained pokemon calculate a PID based on your ID and SID, so there's really no way to reverse the process without knowing it beforehand. And if you do, there's no point to reversing the process.

Jayson · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:19:15 AM

what happens if the coin flip says 0 in the spread?

oddsok · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:35:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Monarchfan92

what happens if the coin flip says 0 in the spread?

You don't flip the coin at all.

Jayson · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:43:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat oddsok

You don't flip the coin at all.

but do you even have to go to the app?

oddsok · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:45:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Monarchfan92

but do you even have to go to the app?

No you don't have to. Just use the happiness checker app as many times as it says.

EDIT: Sorry. You also have to change the app away from the happiness checker once you are done with it.

Jayson · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:49:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat oddsok

No you don't have to. Just use the happiness checker app as many times as it says.

kk, and since hearing that it works on diamond, i tryed it, and all of the IV sets on the RNG reporter come out to 0/0/0/0/0/0..... I was like "WUT?!?" can someone help me with this awell?

Bozo · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:58:19 AM

when changing from one poketch application to another, does that affect the RNG advancement? ie, does it stuff up if i have a different number of apps between the happiness one and the coin one?

also if you click the happiness one once (not double click) does that change anything?

oddsok · Apr 10th, 2009, 2:59:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bozo

when changing from one poketch application to another, does that affect the RNG advancement? ie, does it stuff up if i have a different number of apps between the happiness one and the coin one?

also if you click the happiness one once (not double click) does that change anything?

First question: No.

Not sure about the second.

@Monarch: Ignore the IVs, they don't mean anything.

Jigo · Apr 10th, 2009, 4:07:11 AM

hey guys, I'm just trying this out for the first time, so sorry about this question.

does the double-click on the happiness app count as 1 click or 2? I'm assuming it's one.

oddsok · Apr 10th, 2009, 4:25:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jigo

hey guys, I'm just trying this out for the first time, so sorry about this question.

does the double-click on the happiness app count as 1 click or 2? I'm assuming it's one.

Just the one.

=Jonny= · Apr 10th, 2009, 5:41:11 AM

I need someone to help me making tests on the NRNG. MUST HAVE A SAVE IN FRONT OF CRESSELIA. whoever wants to help can add me on msn for details. thanks.

EDIT :nevermind. just found 3 volunteers.

Wichu · Apr 10th, 2009, 6:11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat oddsok

No you don't have to. Just use the happiness checker app as many times as it says.

After using the happiness checker, you must switch to another app. Going in/out of a building, the PC, or flying will automatically trigger it if you're on it; to avoid it, switch to another app after using it.

Shinymilotic13 · Apr 10th, 2009, 6:52:51 AM

Right I don't get this. This is what I did.

5 pokemon in party, Roselia with sweet scent, Poke thing on number 5 before happiness, nothing in day care, saved on a patch of grass below Solaceon and then saved and turned off.

Reset and turned on the IV check using TM code on AR. I write down the time I press continue which was 11:16.
I used sweet scent caught a Bibarel with the nature and IVs of:

Serious
8/8/18/27/25/11

I opened up RNG reporter and click the >> and put in the date and time and the nature and IVs.

I selected one of the spreads/seed w/e and the delay was 636.
I chose Platinum PID (normal) inputted
ID:18441
Secret ID:63704
Ticked Shiny egg
Then I clicked generate and found this spread

Timid
Offset:147
Happiness taps:11
Coin taps:2

I did the taps, and changed my poke thing app to day care (9) rode my bike to the day care, went into pc, put all pokemon except my milotic into pc, withdrew a female tyranitar, a male snorlax (both in the monster breeding group) put them in daycare, rode bike like 50 steps and an egg appeared. I went back, saved in front of the man, turned off my game, put AR code hatch eggs fast on, recieved the egg and hatched it and recieved a docile non shiny larvitar. What did I do wrong?

Massi · Apr 10th, 2009, 7:08:44 AM

Maybe you forgot to do the Coin Flips?

Apr 9th, 2009, 10:55:53 PM	#1101
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	It is most likely that he didn't tap enough or tapped to much. Or maybe he entered the wrong IVs or picked the wrong original seed. Going for 3047 taps :( __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Apr 9th, 2009, 10:57:43 PM	#1102
Lightsabre Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,958 Texas.	no, I just found out what was wrong, and I feel so stupid. you have to click generate for every SID/ID combo you insert, so he was looking at MY spreads and trying to get them. he's going for a different spread that's HIS now. thanks for the reply though, and good luck with those taps. I find it nessicary to write down every hundred I get so I don't lose track __________________ † I am a Christian and I'm Proud of it.† Scramble Challenge HeartGold

Apr 9th, 2009, 11:09:59 PM	#1105
Miltonic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,661 WONDERLAND!	I think, i'll stick with the old fashioned way since I don't like testing my sanity too much lol Resetting this shiny feebas will probably be the last thing I breed since It was always one of my wants and im glad this was discovred. __________________

Apr 9th, 2009, 11:21:35 PM	#1106
Syberia Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,905 Irvine, CA	I've done the breed perfect Emerald parents and SR a Platinum shiny twice now, it's really not too difficult, so long as Hidden Powers aren't involved. __________________ Black/White Friend Code: 1721 2578 4968 My Pokemon \| Free Pokemon \| YouTube \| Wonder Cards (now with Movie Celebis for Platinum and HG/SS!)

Apr 10th, 2009, 12:13:18 AM	#1107
justenough215 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,961	So this does work for all four gen games. I was thinking it might but i never read up to see how the platinum RNG is different from diamond and pearl. __________________ 4th Gen Battles Pearl FC: 0862 5825 1035

Apr 10th, 2009, 12:13:50 AM	#1108
Veedrock Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,777 Location: Alaska, USA Occupation: Gamer Gamerscore: 84319	Wait, this works in D/P now? The whole reason I got Platinum was for the RNG .-. Thanks for all the hard work everyone. It's not appreciated enough. __________________ Now playing: Minecraft, Street Fighter x Tekken

Apr 10th, 2009, 12:19:32 AM	#1109
Syberia Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,905 Irvine, CA	Apparently yes, it works in D/P now. There seems to have been some misinformation floating around out there saying that D/P's RNG was different, but it doesn't look like it is. __________________ Black/White Friend Code: 1721 2578 4968 My Pokemon \| Free Pokemon \| YouTube \| Wonder Cards (now with Movie Celebis for Platinum and HG/SS!)

Apr 10th, 2009, 1:17:56 AM	#1110
Frozen_Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 545	Quick question. I dont have an AR so i dont know my SID and the wireless router i have is blocking the ds(i tried everything to fix it) and i remember reading somewhere that if you catch a shiny pokemon you can find your SID by looking at the IVs and nature. Is it true for chained pokemon? Emloop can find the SID right?

Apr 10th, 2009, 1:24:03 AM	#1111
Jayson Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 129 In your Nightmares...	Will Honey work the same way as Sweet Scent? __________________

Apr 10th, 2009, 2:19:15 AM	#1113
Jayson Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 129 In your Nightmares...	what happens if the coin flip says 0 in the spread? __________________

Apr 10th, 2009, 2:58:19 AM	#1118
Bozo Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,837 Australia	when changing from one poketch application to another, does that affect the RNG advancement? ie, does it stuff up if i have a different number of apps between the happiness one and the coin one? also if you click the happiness one once (not double click) does that change anything? __________________ BozoTube For the first time in my life, I realised that there was something more important to me than God, and that was Truth. And for the first time in my life, I knew that if I had to choose between God and Truth, I would choose Truth. BozoTube

Apr 10th, 2009, 4:07:11 AM	#1120
Jigo Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,679 no wifi	hey guys, I'm just trying this out for the first time, so sorry about this question. does the double-click on the happiness app count as 1 click or 2? I'm assuming it's one. __________________ Hello

Apr 10th, 2009, 7:08:44 AM	#1125
Massi Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,353 Wetter, Germany	Maybe you forgot to do the Coin Flips?