Most Generation PRNG Help / Information - Page 498

**ΩDonut** · Dec 8th, 2009, 2:25:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat triple threat

hi,i was wondering if someone could help me catch a shiny shaymin with a timid nature and flawless IV's?

That's what the guides are for. Read those first, try it yourself, then come to us with specific questions if you have any.

You probably don't have a shiny Timid flawless spread in your game unless you specifically resetted for the correct ID\SID combo.

triple threat · Dec 8th, 2009, 2:26:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

That's what the guides are for. Read those first, try it yourself, then come to us with specific questions if you have any.

You probably don't have a shiny Timid flawless spread in your game unless you specifically resetted for the correct ID\SID combo.

i have tried it myself,around 13 times now
and i cant do it,so i was wondering if someone could help me?

**ΩDonut** · Dec 8th, 2009, 2:28:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat triple threat

i have tried it myself,around 13 times now
and i cant do it,so i was wondering if someone could help me?

We can't help you unless you tell us exactly what you tried so we can tell you what you're doing wrong.

triple threat · Dec 8th, 2009, 2:38:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

We can't help you unless you tell us exactly what you tried so we can tell you what you're doing wrong.

well i done as it says in the thread,and i still dont get it
would you be able to put it in fewere words?

**ΩDonut** · Dec 8th, 2009, 2:43:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat triple threat

well i done as it says in the thread,and i still dont get it
would you be able to put it in fewere words?

I'm starting to suspect you didn't actually try it, and you want someone to just walk you through the whole thing. Not going to happen.

Post what YOU did, step by step, or we can't help you.

cantab · Dec 8th, 2009, 5:16:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat triple threat

hi,i was wondering if someone could help me catch a shiny shaymin with a timid nature and flawless IV's?

Are you aware of this guide:

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_intro

Also, as mentioned, the way shinies are created means that what you want is PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE without cheating. You're going to have to settle for either shiny or great IVs.

FrenzyB3ar · Dec 8th, 2009, 5:33:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat cantab

Are you aware of this guide:

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_intro

Also, as mentioned, the way shinies are created means that what you want is PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE without cheating. You're going to have to settle for either shiny or great IVs.

i actually used rng reporter to get my shiny giratina - but yeas you do have to sacrifise good ivs for shinyness. I actually had a frame of 4000+ which wasnt nice to do journal flips for lol

pikachu25 · Dec 8th, 2009, 5:40:37 PM

I have more improvements for JavaRNG, as well as a new tool to announce! I didn't think this would happen until Christmas, but then the snowday came :).

The improvement to JavaRNG that I have to announce (which brings us to version 2.00), is that is now features the new tool, which I have dubbed PikaTimer (I am not creative at all with names :P). This is basically an English version of Emloop, with a couple things added.

The GUI looks like this:

...

Here is the guide on how to use it:

Overall:
- It will take a few tries to get used to this from Emloop, but it is easier, at least I think so.
- For the SR countdown, beeps are given at T -10, T -3, T -2, T -1, and at SR.
- For the delay countdown, beeps are every second starting at T -10
- The two timer boxes are editable, so you can enter your own values if you wish.
- The "End" Button stops the search (duh).
- Pressing "Start" or hitting Space while the timer is running does nothing.
- The "Reset" Button resets all values except the top line.

Procedure:
- Type your average calibrated delay into the box for that, your wanted delay into the box for that, and so on and so forth for the top row.
- Click "Create Timer." You will notice that it will automatically find a combination to give you at least thirty seconds from synchronize to SR.
- Note the "Minutes Before Target" box. This is how many minutes before your current minute you should synch at (generally 0 or 1). For example, if you were going for 18:54:36 and that said 0, you would synch at 18:54:00. However, if it was one, you would synch at 18:53:00.
- Press either "Start" or the Space bar to start the timer.
- If you are off consistently, type the average delay you have been hitting into the "Other Delay" box, and click "Update." This will adjust the timer to help you hit your spread automatically. The Total Change is how many delay units you have cumulatively adjusted.

Download the updated JavaRNG 2.00 here.

Download the stand-alone PikaTimer 1.0 here.

Tell me what you think!

EDIT: I did test it, and caught a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Careful Registeel using this over Emloop.

cantab · Dec 8th, 2009, 5:51:32 PM

Is PikaTimer included with JavaRNG?

Besides, this sounds great. I might try and test it out shortly. I've just thought of a great idea - to catch Cresselia at the date and time of a lunar eclipse.

**Nexus** · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wichu

I've successfully done a spread at a frame of over 700000 with Emloop before; it's not a problem with Emloop itself. I usually use Firefox for web browsing, so I opened Emloop in Internet Explorer 7 instead. I have the actual swf downloaded to my computer; try doing that rather than running it from the website.

woah thats really high and I guess its my computer since the stopwatch I use gets me up to a frame away from my desired frame so its not the game itself. Although how wouldI download the swf , but I'm guessing this isn't the place to ask or it doesn't matter according to mingot's post any way thanks for your suggestion

bearsfan092 · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:12:45 PM

Pikachu25, I don't know you, but I probably should. That's an amazing app right there. When I get back to RNG abusing, I'll be sure to give your program a spin. You get the official bearsfan092 seal of approval.

dfe · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:17:58 PM

all i got to say pikachu25.....amazing I'm not even in the process of RNG abusing anything as of yet but when i fit in some time in break ill be sure to have a go with that. great job!

***mingot***** · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:18:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat pikachu25

I have more improvements for JavaRNG
...

pikachu25, you now have a post on the first page of this thread that you are welcome to use for instructions / downloads or whatever you feel would be helpful. Feel free to keep making announcements here, though. Thanks for writing these tools :)

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Akiratron

i actually used rng reporter to get my shiny giratina - but yeas you do have to sacrifise good ivs for shinyness. I actually had a frame of 4000+ which wasnt nice to do journal flips for lol

Or you could use Pandora's Box (see WildEeps post on the first page of this thread) to reset for a suitable ID/SID to get a flawless and shiny spread.

pikachu25 · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:33:24 PM

Thanks a lot, I am truly honored.

I'll go fill in that post with the current information right now! I have a couple more ideas for apps, but unless school gets called off again tomorrow, they will probably have to wait :P. Also, is there a reverse-RNG algorithm somewhere that lets you go backwards through the games PRNG?

LightningFusion · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:36:47 PM

This isn't my department, but sorta. Based on given information, like the time, date you entered the game, you can find out possible seeds that you may have gotten. I think there is some info on it in the first post somewhere.

FrenzyB3ar · Dec 8th, 2009, 6:39:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat pikachu25

Thanks a lot, I am truly honored.

I'll go fill in that post with the current information right now! I have a couple more ideas for apps, but unless school gets called off again tomorrow, they will probably have to wait :P. Also, is there a reverse-RNG algorithm somewhere that lets you go backwards through the games PRNG?

amazing work :)
look forward to using your app - and look forward to your future ones

mattj · Dec 8th, 2009, 7:27:58 PM

I'm just about ready to RNG Mew. Anybody got any good suggestions on the best/easiest place to pick him up? Are there any shops with few/no NPCs inside, or without NPCs outside so I could check my seed first (doubtful)?

**Nexus** · Dec 8th, 2009, 7:31:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat mattj

I'm just about ready to RNG Mew. Anybody got any good suggestions on the best/easiest place to pick him up? Are there any shops with few/no NPCs inside, or without NPCs outside so I could check my seed first (doubtful)?

try the pokemart in cerulean city i heard there no moving NPC there

mattj · Dec 8th, 2009, 7:37:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

try the pokemart in cerulean city i heard there no moving NPC there

0_0 Checking Now! That would be amazing!!!!

[EDIT]
THAT'S SO INSANELY PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!

Stromberg · Dec 8th, 2009, 7:44:39 PM

I have a quick question about hatching shiny Pokemon. On the guide, in Step 5, there's a screenshot of a list of Shiny Egg PIDs. If I was breeding a, say, Staryu and Ditto, would that list be Staryu eggs only, or is it different Pokemon?

Also, how do you find your SID if you haven't caught a shiny?

mattj · Dec 8th, 2009, 7:58:35 PM

Just because I haven't done WCs in a while...

Pick a good Method 1 seed, ignore the nature cuz it's either fixed or random, and add 2 to the Method 1 frame to get the WC frame right?

pikachu25 · Dec 8th, 2009, 8:11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat mattj

Just because I haven't done WCs in a while...

Pick a good Method 1 seed, ignore the nature cuz it's either fixed or random, and add 2 to the Method 1 frame to get the WC frame right?

Yes. Another good way is to find the Method 1 spread and type the seed into RNG Reporter, put the IVs of the spread under the search parameters, select "Wondercard IVs," and generate the spread that way, verifying the seed.

EDIT: Doing this confirms that yes, you do just add 2 to the Method 1 frame.

cantab · Dec 8th, 2009, 8:27:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

woah thats really high and I guess its my computer since the stopwatch I use gets me up to a frame away from my desired frame so its not the game itself. Although how wouldI download the swf , but I'm guessing this isn't the place to ask or it doesn't matter according to mingot's post any way thanks for your suggestion

I think computers often aren't particularly accurate clocks. An actual stopwatch, even a cheaper one, will probably keep better time.

Stromberg · Dec 8th, 2009, 8:40:16 PM

Another question, related to my other one on the previous page. On the Shiny Egg PIDs list, if there is no natures that you want, how do you reset it? Just start all over?

Despotar · Dec 8th, 2009, 8:41:06 PM

Why would I be hitting one frame to high? (16 over 15)

Dec 8th, 2009, 5:40:37 PM	#12433
pikachu25 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 553 GMT -5	I have more improvements for JavaRNG, as well as a new tool to announce! I didn't think this would happen until Christmas, but then the snowday came :). The improvement to JavaRNG that I have to announce (which brings us to version 2.00), is that is now features the new tool, which I have dubbed PikaTimer (I am not creative at all with names :P). This is basically an English version of Emloop, with a couple things added. The GUI looks like this: ... Here is the guide on how to use it: Overall: - It will take a few tries to get used to this from Emloop, but it is easier, at least I think so. - For the SR countdown, beeps are given at T -10, T -3, T -2, T -1, and at SR. - For the delay countdown, beeps are every second starting at T -10 - The two timer boxes are editable, so you can enter your own values if you wish. - The "End" Button stops the search (duh). - Pressing "Start" or hitting Space while the timer is running does nothing. - The "Reset" Button resets all values except the top line. Procedure: - Type your average calibrated delay into the box for that, your wanted delay into the box for that, and so on and so forth for the top row. - Click "Create Timer." You will notice that it will automatically find a combination to give you at least thirty seconds from synchronize to SR. - Note the "Minutes Before Target" box. This is how many minutes before your current minute you should synch at (generally 0 or 1). For example, if you were going for 18:54:36 and that said 0, you would synch at 18:54:00. However, if it was one, you would synch at 18:53:00. - Press either "Start" or the Space bar to start the timer. - If you are off consistently, type the average delay you have been hitting into the "Other Delay" box, and click "Update." This will adjust the timer to help you hit your spread automatically. The Total Change is how many delay units you have cumulatively adjusted. Download the updated JavaRNG 2.00 here. Download the stand-alone PikaTimer 1.0 here. Tell me what you think! EDIT: I did test it, and caught a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Careful Registeel using this over Emloop. __________________ Highest 4th Gen OU CRE: 1582.46 (#22) The latest version of PikaTimer is here. (Version 2.03- 4/15/10) Pikachu25's RNG Shack (Trade Thread) My White FC: 2537 5798 1419

Dec 8th, 2009, 5:51:32 PM	#12434
cantab Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,358 England	Is PikaTimer included with JavaRNG? Besides, this sounds great. I might try and test it out shortly. I've just thought of a great idea - to catch Cresselia at the date and time of a lunar eclipse. __________________ "If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth" - Cobraroll, on Emboar learning Scald. "Nothing like a cup of tea to start off the day" - Professor Oak, EP025.

Dec 8th, 2009, 6:12:45 PM	#12436
bearsfan092 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,048 Yoomtah!	Pikachu25, I don't know you, but I probably should. That's an amazing app right there. When I get back to RNG abusing, I'll be sure to give your program a spin. You get the official bearsfan092 seal of approval. __________________ Black FC: 3954 7943 2104 Diamond FC: 1590 6595 3602 RNG Abuse Tutorial Videos and Wifi Battle Videos-Now with revamped videos for current software Say what? Bears has a trade thread again?

Dec 8th, 2009, 6:17:58 PM	#12437
dfe Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,507 GERMANY	all i got to say pikachu25.....amazing I'm not even in the process of RNG abusing anything as of yet but when i fit in some time in break ill be sure to have a go with that. great job! __________________ <3Csmugs

Dec 8th, 2009, 6:33:24 PM	#12439
pikachu25 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 553 GMT -5	Thanks a lot, I am truly honored. I'll go fill in that post with the current information right now! I have a couple more ideas for apps, but unless school gets called off again tomorrow, they will probably have to wait :P. Also, is there a reverse-RNG algorithm somewhere that lets you go backwards through the games PRNG? __________________ Highest 4th Gen OU CRE: 1582.46 (#22) The latest version of PikaTimer is here. (Version 2.03- 4/15/10) Pikachu25's RNG Shack (Trade Thread) My White FC: 2537 5798 1419

Dec 8th, 2009, 6:36:47 PM	#12440
LightningFusion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,781 Michigan	This isn't my department, but sorta. Based on given information, like the time, date you entered the game, you can find out possible seeds that you may have gotten. I think there is some info on it in the first post somewhere. __________________ Diamond Name: Fus!on FC: 2321 1627 1150 Nookington's

Dec 8th, 2009, 7:44:39 PM	#12445
Stromberg Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 43	I have a quick question about hatching shiny Pokemon. On the guide, in Step 5, there's a screenshot of a list of Shiny Egg PIDs. If I was breeding a, say, Staryu and Ditto, would that list be Staryu eggs only, or is it different Pokemon? Also, how do you find your SID if you haven't caught a shiny? __________________ Currently Playing: 5th Gen Dream World OU

Dec 8th, 2009, 8:40:16 PM	#12449
Stromberg Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 43	Another question, related to my other one on the previous page. On the Shiny Egg PIDs list, if there is no natures that you want, how do you reset it? Just start all over? __________________ Currently Playing: 5th Gen Dream World OU

Dec 8th, 2009, 8:41:06 PM	#12450
Despotar Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,119 Fort Worth, TX	Why would I be hitting one frame to high? (16 over 15) __________________ 1506-0469-4826. My trade thread!