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Despotar · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:59:08 AM

No wonder I've been missing it!
Also, why would the delay randomly change from get even to odd?
(I didn't insert/take out a GBA game)

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 12:02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

No wonder I've been missing it!
Also, why would the delay randomly change from get even to odd?
(I didn't insert/take out a GBA game)

well the delay sometimes does that i know that whehn i rng on diamond the delay shifts from even to odd and vice-versa without me removing or adding a gba game and sometimes even when i do it doesn't change the delay form odd to even, so it just happens sometimes

Despotar · Dec 11th, 2009, 12:13:49 PM

OK thanks!

Metal Gods · Dec 11th, 2009, 2:49:58 PM

Can anyone point me to a guide for RNGing HGSS?

mattj · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:23:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Megadeth90

Can anyone point me to a guide for RNGing HGSS?

There isn't exactly a "guide" yet. But this is the HG/SS "research" thread. You can get a lot of useful info from there, but pretty much you're on your own, other than asking specific questions here.

From my experience RNGing in HG/SS (Raikou/Entei/Dratini/Ho-oh/Latias/Mew so far)...
1) Download the newest version of the Reporter if you haven't because it has the new HG/SS "Method K" frames.
2) It's mostly about figuring out what works for your specific seed, because a lot of "consistent" methods of advancing the frames in DPPt aren't "consistent" outside of individual seeds anymore.
3) The Radio is a lifesaver. It is "d e c e n t l y" ... >.> ... consistent for advancing your frames.
4) Since there's no coinflip app to check your seed, you usually need to plan out a place to Sweet Scent to check your seed.

FrenzyB3ar · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:43:16 PM

EDIT: for Egg abuse

Just wanted to confirm that i was aiming for a frame 14 but landed on frame 15 on exact same delay, Would an NPC be to blame.

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:46:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Akiratron

EDIT: for Egg abuse

Just wanted to confirm that i was aiming for a frame 14 but landed on frame 15 on exact same delay, Would an NPC be to blame.

yes one of the cowboys probably moved another step

FrenzyB3ar · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:47:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

yes if there was one in the area and depends on where you are are doing your RNG

thanks - i think the culprit is Buneary - the little bastard is to fast lol

Flora · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:51:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Akiratron

thanks - i think the culprit is Buneary - the little bastard is to fast lol

The Buneary doesn't affect your frame since it moves at a fixed, controlled rate.

It would be any one of the other NPCs, such as the farm girl and the farm man. If either one of them move, the frame is advanced +1. If you want to fix that, do a re-save so that you have like a good period of time to talk to the old egg man before any of them move.

Also, NPCs out of the screen you are in that move around still affect your frame.

FrenzyB3ar · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:53:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat AromaFlora

The Buneary doesn't affect your frame since it moves at a fixed, controlled rate.

It would be any one of the other NPCs, such as the farm girl and the farm man. If either one of them move, the frame is advanced +1. If you want to fix that, do a re-save so that you have like a good period of time to talk to the old egg man before any of them move.

thanks i was saving and concentrating on Buneary movements,
that helps alot :)

Jubilee · Dec 11th, 2009, 9:28:43 PM

Ok im trying to PokeRadar Abuse and my Frame is 554, so can someone tell me if im doing this right?
Say 4 Patches Popped up so
554-1 (Monster Frame)-10 (# of Patches) And say the Patch was 3 Steps away
So
554-1-10-3 Right which would be 270 Journal Flips, right? And that still might be wrong due to a random advancement or a 128 Step Counter....

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 9:32:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Ok im trying to PokeRadar Abuse and my Frame is 554, so can someone tell me if im doing this right?
Say 4 Patches Popped up so
554-1 (Monster Frame)-10 (# of Patches) And say the Patch was 3 Steps away
So
554-1-10-3 Right which would be 270 Journal Flips, right? And that still might be wrong due to a random advancement or a 128 Step Counter....

yes except you forgot to subtract 5 for battling the pokemon

Jubilee · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:23:58 PM

Ok still trying to PokeRadar Abuse and was just wondering again if the Math on this is correct....
Frame is 554 so...
554-10 (4 Patches)-6 (For Battling the Pokemon and The Monster Frame) and the Patch is 6 Steps away so -6 right?
554-22=532/2=266 Flips?
And i was wondering about the -5 for Battling the Pokemon, what if the only Pokemon you battle is the First Patach you run into? Do you still subtract 5? Thanks in advance :)

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:28:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Ok still trying to PokeRadar Abuse and was just wondering again if the Math on this is correct....
Frame is 554 so...
554-10 (4 Patches)-6 (For Battling the Pokemon and The Monster Frame) and the Patch is 6 Steps away so -6 right?
554-22=532/2=266 Flips?
And i was wondering about the -5 for Battling the Pokemon, what if the only Pokemon you battle is the First Patach you run into? Do you still subtract 5? Thanks in advance :)

yes getting into a battle will advance the frame by 5 even if its the first patch as long as a battle commences the frames will advance by 5, and make sure your patch doesn't involve turning to get to it and remember that sometimes on rare occasions taking a step forward will advance the frames by 2

Jubilee · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:31:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

yes getting into a battle will advance the frame by 5 even if its the first patch as long as a battle commences the frames will advance by 5, and make sure your patch doesn't involve turning to get to it and remember that sometimes on rare occasions taking a step forward will advance the frames by 2

Unfortuneatly i do need to turn once to get to it im 5 patches away and need to tunr once

xxx^xx
xxxxxx
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xxxxxx
xx*xxx
^ is me
* is the patch
Lol crappy graph but only way i can actually explain it X_x

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:34:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Unfortuneatly i do need to turn once to get to it im 5 patches away and need to tunr once

xxx^xx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xx*xxx
^ is me
* is the patch
Lol crappy graph but only way i can actually explain it X_x

ok then turning will advance the frames by 1 so turning then taking a step will count as two frame advancements

Jubilee · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:36:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

ok then turning will advance the frames by 1 so turning then taking a step will count as two frame advancements

Ok so i need to turn twice and take 5 steps and that would advance it by 7 so im gunna need to turn once more to make that even right? thanks for all the help :D

**Nexus** · Dec 11th, 2009, 11:38:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Ok so i need to turn twice and take 5 steps and that would advance it by 7 so im gunna need to turn once more to make that even right? thanks for all the help :D

yes just make sure your facing the patch so you can take that final step, land on the patch to make it an even 8

mattj · Dec 12th, 2009, 11:02:11 AM

Anybody know if there are wild pokes in Lugia's room, or moving NPCs, or anything? Heading that way now, but I'd like any advice about stuff to watch out for ya know?

**Nexus** · Dec 12th, 2009, 11:03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mattj

Anybody know if there are wild pokes in Lugia's room, or moving NPCs, or anything? Heading that way now, but I'd like any advice about stuff to watch out for ya know?

there shouldn't be the kimono girls there are stable they dont move after they've done thier dance, and if this is in HG then no NPCs at all

mattj · Dec 12th, 2009, 11:25:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

there shouldn't be the kimono girls there are stable they dont move after they've done thier dance, and if this is in HG then no NPCs at all

Yeah. HG. Thanks for the heads up. :)

Jubilee · Dec 12th, 2009, 1:29:45 PM

When choosing a Spread for PokeRadar Abuse do you have to use a Frame with an Encoutner Slot of the Pokemon you want?

Quote:

The pokemon for the patch is based off the same as the Sweet scent encounter slot. The pokemon radar slot for the encounter slots does not always get the radar pokemon. As of right now, I am unsure what determines if it will be the radar pokemon or not, but the best odds to get your target radar pokemon and the right frame, is to catch one first, getting you a chain of one.

So im guessing not? ^^^

**Nexus** · Dec 12th, 2009, 1:31:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

When choosing a Spread for PokeRadar Abuse do you have to use a Frame with an Encoutner Slot of the Pokemon you want?

So im guessing not? ^^^

nope wont make a difference that's why the guide says to start a chain of one to improve your odds of getting the poke you want

Jubilee · Dec 12th, 2009, 1:39:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nexus

nope wont make a difference that's why the guide says to start a chain of one to improve your odds of getting the poke you want

Okay thats good, i wanna change my Spread and find a better one X_x
Thanks again!

JRT · Dec 12th, 2009, 1:52:27 PM

Can someone please tell me if 28.66 looks like it should be rounded to a seconds of 29?

Dec 11th, 2009, 11:59:08 AM	#12501
Despotar Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,119 Fort Worth, TX	No wonder I've been missing it! Also, why would the delay randomly change from get even to odd? (I didn't insert/take out a GBA game) __________________ 1506-0469-4826. My trade thread!

Dec 11th, 2009, 12:13:49 PM	#12503
Despotar Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,119 Fort Worth, TX	OK thanks! __________________ 1506-0469-4826. My trade thread!

Dec 11th, 2009, 2:49:58 PM	#12504
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FrenzyB3ar Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 972	Quick question EDIT: for Egg abuse Just wanted to confirm that i was aiming for a frame 14 but landed on frame 15 on exact same delay, Would an NPC be to blame. __________________

Dec 12th, 2009, 1:52:27 PM	#12525
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Can someone please tell me if 28.66 looks like it should be rounded to a seconds of 29? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Dec 11th, 2009, 9:28:43 PM	#12511
Jubilee Blurring the lines between real and the fake Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,990 Pittsburgh, PA	Ok im trying to PokeRadar Abuse and my Frame is 554, so can someone tell me if im doing this right? Say 4 Patches Popped up so 554-1 (Monster Frame)-10 (# of Patches) And say the Patch was 3 Steps away So 554-1-10-3 Right which would be 270 Journal Flips, right? And that still might be wrong due to a random advancement or a 128 Step Counter....

Dec 11th, 2009, 11:23:58 PM	#12513
Jubilee Blurring the lines between real and the fake Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,990 Pittsburgh, PA	Ok still trying to PokeRadar Abuse and was just wondering again if the Math on this is correct.... Frame is 554 so... 554-10 (4 Patches)-6 (For Battling the Pokemon and The Monster Frame) and the Patch is 6 Steps away so -6 right? 554-22=532/2=266 Flips? And i was wondering about the -5 for Battling the Pokemon, what if the only Pokemon you battle is the First Patach you run into? Do you still subtract 5? Thanks in advance :)