Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[Jubilee]

When PokeRadaring will the same Pokemon appear everytime on the same Seed/Frame? Everytime i walk X Steps to one Patch its the Same Pokemon everytime......

[DarkChaos (HCZ)]

I have a question about delays.
I am currently IV abusing eggs and I know delays are 60 x # of seconds. My second is 14 and I have a delays from 592-608.
Im currently going for a jolly redi smergale with 31/31/31/31/31/31

Let say that I saved in frame 1 and my target from is 21 and the delay of my target frame is 603 or 604. Is there a gurantee way to hit the delay or is it a matter of luck? I have been either a little high or low my target delay.

I already IV abuse a few other eggs but the smeragle is giving me problems.

This journal pages also advance the RNG right?

pokemon caught late night
pokemon defeated in evening
and vice versa

[riddlinkid]

Steve, I'm not totally sure about this but I believe that for each seed, if you radar right away the pokemon is set no matter what frame you use (for sparkling patches anyways, when I used a regular patch the pokemon always matched the encounter slot of the frame I got). I say this because I tried doing it with a slowpoke, and tried 6 different frames or so and got a bidoof every time, even though they were different encounter slots. I think it would change if you did something like take a step or maybe turn before radaring. It would take some experimenting though to find out for sure.

Edit: DarkChaos - The delay is simply the amount of time between resetting and pressing A on the continue screen. It's basically luck/timing and consistency. I usually don't have to reset more than 5 times or so before I hit my delay for breeding. If I'm using emloop (captures) I usually can hit my delay about 50% of the time.

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat riddlinkid

Steve, I'm not totally sure about this but I believe that for each seed, if you radar right away the pokemon is set no matter what frame you use (for sparkling patches anyways, when I used a regular patch the pokemon always matched the encounter slot of the frame I got). I say this because I tried doing it with a slowpoke, and tried 6 different frames or so and got a bidoof every time, even though they were different encounter slots. I think it would change if you did something like take a step or maybe turn before radaring. It would take some experimenting though to find out for sure.

Yeah ive been taking steps everytime because where i saved no Sprakly Patches Show up, and im PokeRadaring Togepi which is PokeRadar only.
And everytime i take 2 Turn+Steps and BellSprout appears so i just jkept trying different amount of steps and still no Togepi :(
EDIT: Should i Resave and try a different spot?

[riddlinkid]

You could do that but I'm not sure if it would help or not. In the instance I was talking about I tried saving in multiple places and had the same results. I asked Shawk about it (he had done the same method with radar pokemon) and he said he never had that happen, so I don't really know what causes it or what can change it. Like I said, you may just have to do your own research to figure it out, because there's not a lot of in-depth info for pokeradar abuse.

[acid_paradox]

I have a quick question. I have seen pokemon in trade threads that have been RNG'd for their Shininess, then continually soft-reset for good IV's. How is this possible? Aren't egg's IV's set once you take the egg? :S

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

I have a quick question. I have seen pokemon in trade threads that have been RNG'd for their Shininess, then continually soft-reset for good IV's. How is this possible? Aren't egg's IV's set once you take the egg? :S

The IV's of the Egg are generated as soon as you talk to the Daycare Man and collect the Egg, so first you can RNG Abuse Shinyness/Nature/Ability then RNG Abuse the IV's or SR for good ones :)

[ΩDonut]

Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

I have a quick question. I have seen pokemon in trade threads that have been RNG'd for their Shininess, then continually soft-reset for good IV's. How is this possible? Aren't egg's IV's set once you take the egg? :S

The gender\nature\shininess of the Pokemon is set once the Day Care Man is holding an egg, but the IVs are only set when you take it.

[acid_paradox]

Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

The gender\nature\shininess of the Pokemon is set once the Day Care Man is holding an egg, but the IVs are only set when you take it.

oh okay thank you, that clears up a lot of confusion on my part =P

[tr4q]

Originally Posted by Fat Syberia

It's not even a wondercard, the egg is method 1

So does that mean I can abuse for the nature?

[Despotar]

Does recieving a pokemon in a wi-fi trade raise your frame in the journal?

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

Does recieving a pokemon in a wi-fi trade raise your frame in the journal?

No, only a Page with a Caught or Defeated Poke on it

There are a number of different ways to advance the RNG, but for capturing Pokémon the three easiest are Journal flips, walking where there are wild Pokémon present while using a Repel, and walking where there are no wild Pokémon.
Journal Flipping Opening the Journal, or having it automatically open, when there is a caught or defeated Pokémon on the first page advances the RNG by 2. There are a number of formats for the caught Pokémon text. Those listed below have been verified to advance the RNG.
'Caught a female BIDOOF.
''Caught AZELF (LATE NIGHT).
''UXIE was caught (DAY).
''Defeated a male BIDOOF.'

[for54years]

Originally Posted by Fat tr4q

So does that mean I can abuse for the nature?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Fat themoonglows

I have a question about hatching perfect pokemon.
One of the steps is:
Reset your game, and then immediately cancel the Journal and collect the egg. Remember to speak to the Daycare man as quickly as you can as the frame starts to increase as soon as the Journal is canceled.
Encounter a wild Pokémon as quickly as possible."

Exactly how quickly does it have to be? Can I fly to the resort area and get a high level magikarp, so I don't have to spend time leveling?

Yes, you can fly to a location and catch a high-level Pokemon. Having something with the Hustle ability as your lead helps in this case, because it raises the level of wild encounters.

Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

Does recieving a pokemon in a wi-fi trade raise your frame in the journal?

No. Only wild encounters.

[The_GAME]

Originally Posted by Fat for54years

Yes.

Yes, you can fly to a location and catch a high-level Pokemon. Having something with the Hustle ability as your lead helps in this case, because it raises the level of wild encounters.
.

Which is better, a Hustler or an Intimidater?
I'm pretty sure intimidate halves the chances of encountering pokemon lower than the pokemon's level.
Although I'm not sure of the specifics of hustle

[mattj]

Originally Posted by Fat themoonglows

Which is better, a Hustler or an Intimidater?
I'm pretty sure intimidate halves the chances of encountering pokemon lower than the pokemon's level.
Although I'm not sure of the specifics of hustle

Hustle=more encounters
Intimidate=less

Bring a Sweet Scenter though. Instant wild pokes. That's what I'm doing in HG.

[Metal Gods]

Okay im about RNG abuse for my Ubers ( Dialga right now )
So i hit my seconds & delay and cancel my journal.
Example my frame is lets say 91. So it would be 91 - 1 = 90 divided by 2 = 45 flips
correct?

Just trying to make sure i recall all the step again its been awhile since i did ubers.
Also does anyone have a good spread sheet for shiny ubers?

[acid_paradox]

I am currently trying to RNG for shiny eggs using my R4i rom Pokemon Platinum file. I have my ID and SID, and I am using the Method: DPPt Egg PID (Normal). My SID and ID are plugged into the RNG reporter, and I am using an IV check code to find my Initial Seed using pokemon's IVs. For some reason, whenever I plug everything in (my DSi and computer are synchronized for the correct date/time), and frames and everything come up, whenever I do all of the taps and coin flips, it doesn't work. Any suggestions?

NOTE: I have successfully RNG'd a shiny Rotom using my R4i and the pokemon platinum ROM, so it's not that I'm using a ROM.

[TEST 101]

Originally Posted by Fat Megadeth90

Okay im about RNG abuse for my Ubers ( Dialga right now )
So i hit my seconds & delay and cancel my journal.
Example my frame is lets say 91. So it would be 91 - 1 = 90 divided by 2 = 45 flips
correct?

Just trying to make sure i recall all the step again its been awhile since i did ubers.
Also does anyone have a good spread sheet for shiny ubers?

Yeah it would be:

X= Stationary Pokemon's starting frame
Y= Number of Roamers
Z= New Flips after substraction
V= Initial Frame

V - X - Y = Z/2

So in your case it would be:
91 - 1 - 0 = 90/2
45 Flips it would be.

Tough if your journal opens and you cancel it make sure it isn't on a Caught/Defeated Pokemon...but in this case you can just remove another 2 and do 44 flips.

There is no sheet for shiny Ubers, the list is identical to the ones of MethodJ/Method1 non-shiny Pokemon...I think that list should be on the front page in CSV or something similar format.

To get any wanted shiny legendary you need to have a ID/SID combo that's generates the wanted PID that is identical to the wanted IV sheet...which can be accompenied by another similar PID in certain cases for example Timid IV spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31 is accompenied by Modest IV spread 31/31/31/31/31/31

Sorry for the long reply, I hope it helps.

[cantab]

Megadeth 90: That is correct.

Shinyness depends on your Trainer ID and Secret ID. So there aren't any spreadsheets, you'll have to know the IDs and calculate the spreads in RNG reporter. Bear in mind you are highly unlikely to get near-flawless shiny spreads.

[Metal Gods]

Okay i see.
So pretty much i just type in the IV range in the time finder and click shiny and hope i find something wroth using right?

[Metal Gods]

Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

I am currently trying to RNG for shiny eggs using my R4i rom Pokemon Platinum file. I have my ID and SID, and I am using the Method: DPPt Egg PID (Normal). My SID and ID are plugged into the RNG reporter, and I am using an IV check code to find my Initial Seed using pokemon's IVs. For some reason, whenever I plug everything in (my DSi and computer are synchronized for the correct date/time), and frames and everything come up, whenever I do all of the taps and coin flips, it doesn't work. Any suggestions?

NOTE: I have successfully RNG'd a shiny Rotom using my R4i and the pokemon platinum ROM, so it's not that I'm using a ROM.

I RNG on both my r4i and AR.

Frame doesn't matter when RNGing for a shiny egg it only matters for the Ivs. Do you have five pokemons in your party? Are sure your using the correct id/sid? are you sure the time and date is correct?

Just making sure you have the basic down 1st.

And are you sure you have it on DPPT EGG?

[acid_paradox]

Originally Posted by Fat Megadeth90

I RNG on both my r4i and AR.

Frame doesn't matter when RNGing for a shiny egg it only matters for the Ivs. Do you have five pokemons in your party? Are sure your using the correct id/sid? are you sure the time and date is correct?

Just making sure you have the basic down 1st.

And are you sure you have it on DPPT EGG?

Wow am I ever stupid. I don't have 5 pokés in my party >___> I never thought you needed 5 in your party...
Thanks, I'll let you know if it works or not.

[Destiny100]

Hmm... What other possible natures are there if I have a Shiny Spread for Timid Nature, 31/22/30/31/31/31? (Because I think the same spread will appear with two natures - or am I wrong?)

Because If you have quint flawless Shiny ID/SID combo, the only natures you can have together are Modest/Timid/Calm?

[acid_paradox]

okay its working now, thank you.

[Diesel]

If I'm catching a Weezing in stark mountain (cave), and RNG Reporter says my frame is 1268, then I do (1266/2=) 633 journal flips then use sweet scent, right? I'm a little rusty :P