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pastel · Dec 31st, 2009, 10:42:42 AM

this is a small question, i want to abuse to catch for a sealeo, and when i find times in the time finder of the reporter, its says things in seconds, does that mean i must press continue at exactly that second??, if its lets say 12, and the time i take is 13 secs, so i need to SR at 59 seconds right??

COKTAL · Dec 31st, 2009, 11:12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat pastel

this is a small question, i want to abuse to catch for a sealeo, and when i find times in the time finder of the reporter, its says things in seconds, does that mean i must press continue at exactly that second??, if its lets say 12, and the time i take is 13 secs, so i need to SR at 59 seconds right??

Yeah, you'll need to SR at 59 seconds on the previous minute.

Cool Ivysaur · Dec 31st, 2009, 11:29:28 AM

Is Exeggcute RNG abusable in Platinum??

Dan Dan · Dec 31st, 2009, 11:57:36 AM

They can only be found in the Great Marsh if you mean to capture, which has many NPCs so I'm unsure. Plus they can only be found when seen through the binoculars, so they're pretty hard to obtain. Of course you can always breed them.

Newts · Dec 31st, 2009, 12:00:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cool Ivysaur

Is Exeggcute RNG abusable in Platinum??

Yes but its akward. Your 1st issue is, its only available on some days in the great marsh. 2nd issue, you cannot save inside the marsh so you need to save outside and figure out how much to allow for NPC movements and steps advancements getting to your grass to sweet scent.

Then you just need to find the encounter slot of exeggcute, which I don't know if the marsh has been mapped out yet, I've started but I couldn't tell you where the daily pokemon fits in with 100% accuracy

Zowayix · Dec 31st, 2009, 2:33:56 PM

Would doing this work in DPPt:

Play a game in an emulator, using RAM addresses to find the initial seed. Then plugging that seed into RNG Reporter, and seeing if anything noteworthy comes up.

If it works, how would I do the bolded part?

(From what I've read this also works in FR/LG, right?)

43R0D4CTYL · Dec 31st, 2009, 3:56:32 PM

Hi!

I have found an encounter slot 7 spread for a ditto in the trophy garden. I also talked to him again so th Ditto will become to slot 7 (previous). But When I hit the correct Delay, there´s always the same Pichu. What do I do wrong?

shot571 · Dec 31st, 2009, 4:25:28 PM

im trying to rng ivs. but i have roamers. i cant seem to get nature right either. do they make a difference?

blasphemy1 · Dec 31st, 2009, 8:54:48 PM

Alright I don't know what I did wrong here, so maybe you could help me out.

I am trying for a No Guard Adamant Machoke on Route 226. I fought the NPC there with Vs. Seeker to prevent her movement, then I went down to the grass and saved. I calculated my RNG advances, so my initial frame was 882. Since sweet scented pokemon in grass have a frame of 2, I subtracted that. Then I noticed in this article it also advances the frame by 1 just for sweet scenting in grass(I think this may have been the problem, is it just 2 like the chart says or 3-what the chart + this article states?). I did my RNG advances, etc, then used Sweet Scent. I encountered a Machoke with No Guard and an Adamant nature, but the IVs were off. Could the bold part of this post be the problem?

Jubilee · Dec 31st, 2009, 8:58:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat blasphemy1

Alright I don't know what I did wrong here, so maybe you could help me out.

I am trying for a No Guard Adamant Machoke on Route 226. I fought the NPC there with Vs. Seeker to prevent her movement, then I went down to the grass and saved. I calculated my RNG advances, so my initial frame was 882. Since sweet scented pokemon in grass have a frame of 2, I subtracted that. Then I noticed in this article it also advances the frame by 1 just for sweet scenting in grass(I think this may have been the problem, is it just 2 like the chart says or 3-what the chart + this article states?). I did my RNG advances, etc, then used Sweet Scent. I encountered a Machoke with No Guard and an Adamant nature, but the IVs were off. Could the bold part of this post be the problem?

No when Sweet Scenting in Grass just Subtract two because it advances it by two :)
And why Route 226? You could catch Machop in Mt.Coronet and theres no NPC's, just a suggestion :)
Also yes 882-2=880/2=440 Flips

pastel · Dec 31st, 2009, 9:00:05 PM

when you use the coin flips, you check if you did the delay and seconds correctly?, including time??

blasphemy1 · Dec 31st, 2009, 9:14:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat pastel

when you use the coin flips, you check if you did the delay and seconds correctly?, including time??

Yes I did.

And thanks Steveebomb7134, that was confusing me. I guess I picked Route 226 because I've been having good luck there. Logically it doesn't make much sense, I just feel better doing it there though.

EDIT: Crap, I really should have went to Mt. Coronet. Apparently my swarm of the day was Krabby, who popped up with the right IVs and nature but with Shell Armor :(

c l e a r · Dec 31st, 2009, 9:41:03 PM

Just wondering...
Can you just find an encounter slot for Silcoon/Cascoon and ignore the whole PID thing with Wurmple?

I have a few HP Ground Modest Spreads that is 5+ for the last digit of the PID...

timetwister · Dec 31st, 2009, 9:43:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat c l e a r

Just wondering...
Can you just find an encounter slot for Silcoon/Cascoon and ignore the whole PID thing with Wurmple?

I have a few HP Ground Modest Spreads that is 5+ for the last digit of the PID...

I suppose that could work, but I'd venture a guess that all the frames with encounter slots for Silcoon/Cascoon have PID's that match the appropriate species whether you caught it as a Silcoon/Cascoon or a Wurmple.

JRT · Dec 31st, 2009, 11:52:00 PM

Ok since there aren't any trainers directly in Valley Windworks, but there are trainers near Valley Windworks, will I have to worry about the frame being affected?

blasphemy1 · Dec 31st, 2009, 11:57:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Ok since there aren't any trainers directly in Valley Windworks, but there are trainers near Valley Windworks, will I have to worry about the frame being affected?

No Valley Windworks is completely free of NPCs.

EDIT: Does anyone know if weather affects the results of the coin flips? I know I can hit my delay consistently, and I've been trying at the summit of Mt. Coronet(where there is hail) but I haven't hit it in atleast 50 tries.

JRT · Jan 1st, 2010, 12:38:30 AM

Ok I was confused on something; Do I want to do 128 steps in the grass or do I just turn once?

Jubilee · Jan 1st, 2010, 12:40:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Ok I was confused on something; Do I want to do 128 steps in the grass or do I just turn once?

If your Frame is Uneven just Turn once and it will Advance by 1

JRT · Jan 1st, 2010, 12:41:34 AM

Ok so I do that, but I still subtract the 5 party pokemon and then divide be 2 right?

Jubilee · Jan 1st, 2010, 12:44:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Ok so I do that, but I still subtract the 5 party pokemon and then divide be 2 right?

No you just Subtract 1 for Turning and thats all :)
EX:
501
Turn once -1 (no matter how many pokes are in your party)
500-2=498/2= 249 Flips
So... Actually it is...
501-3 (Sweet Scent and Turning)= 498/2= 249 Flips and Turn Once ok?

JRT · Jan 1st, 2010, 12:45:56 AM

Oh great thanks :)

undisputed · Jan 1st, 2010, 2:46:50 AM

hey, guys. are there any tips that i should know for catching dratinis? i cant seem to ever get one. ive tried multiple different years, and everytime i hit my seed and delay and do my journal flips, i get "not even a nibble". and, yes i have checked encounter slots. i cant get one to show up on my diamond, so i need help

Jubilee · Jan 1st, 2010, 2:48:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat undisput3d

hey, guys. are there any tips that i should know for catching dratinis? i cant seem to ever get one. ive tried multiple different years, and everytime i hit my seed and delay and do my journal flips, i get "not even a nibble". and, yes i have checked encounter slots. i cant get one to show up on my diamond, so i need help

When selecting a Frame that matches your Encoutner Slot for Fishing Pokemon you need to make sure it says "Landed A Pokemon"

Newts · Jan 1st, 2010, 2:49:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat undisput3d

hey, guys. are there any tips that i should know for catching dratinis? i cant seem to ever get one. ive tried multiple different years, and everytime i hit my seed and delay and do my journal flips, i get "not even a nibble". and, yes i have checked encounter slots. i cant get one to show up on my diamond, so i need help

Basically you just need to sift through every frame to find one that has a dratini encounter slot that also says your rod landed a pokemon, Not much else you can do.

undisputed · Jan 1st, 2010, 2:58:20 AM

thanks guys. i wish it were that easy, and thats why im asking. every time, i fit the requirements and i fail miserably. would id, affect it at all? i havent put that in, but i never heard you need to. ill probably give it another try later, and if i can magically get "not even a nibble" of a frame that should give me a pokemon.

im gonna list the steps i do just to make sure im not overlooking things.

1. change date and time to match seed.
2. enter the game world and wait for 15 seconds before the new minute. my delay ends in 59 seconds.
3. then i soft reset and enter at :59
4. check and make sure i hit time + delay
5. im fishing so i take my frame and subtract 4
6. no wanderers
7. i then do my journal flips
8. now, at this point i have my super rod registered
9. i fish
10. every time, i get "not even a nibble" 5 consecutive times at least before something pops up
11. i am left confused and frustrated

Dec 31st, 2009, 10:42:42 AM	#13101
pastel Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,166 ]= .Thinking about life. =[	this is a small question, i want to abuse to catch for a sealeo, and when i find times in the time finder of the reporter, its says things in seconds, does that mean i must press continue at exactly that second??, if its lets say 12, and the time i take is 13 secs, so i need to SR at 59 seconds right?? __________________ Join #sprite on IRC. Trade Thread \| FC: 1677-0013-4079 I can make banners for your trade thread. Send me a message if you want me to work. Please send me a PM if you are willing to help me with HGSS RNG abuse. I need help, thank you.

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Dec 31st, 2009, 11:57:36 AM	#13104
Dan Dan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,742 Ingerland	They can only be found in the Great Marsh if you mean to capture, which has many NPCs so I'm unsure. Plus they can only be found when seen through the binoculars, so they're pretty hard to obtain. Of course you can always breed them. __________________ [13:17:16] <BenVdd> i mean , if she wasn't my sister and i still lived in the same house as her i'd do her in her sleep

Dec 31st, 2009, 3:56:32 PM	#13107
43R0D4CTYL Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 651 Germany; GMT +1	Hi! I have found an encounter slot 7 spread for a ditto in the trophy garden. I also talked to him again so th Ditto will become to slot 7 (previous). But When I hit the correct Delay, there´s always the same Pichu. What do I do wrong? __________________ 43r0d4ctyl´s Trade Thread \| F.C. : 5070 3279 0092 \| unable to trade at the moment (wifi-problems/please don´t ask for CMT-Posts)

Dec 31st, 2009, 4:25:28 PM	#13108
shot571 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 57	im trying to rng ivs. but i have roamers. i cant seem to get nature right either. do they make a difference? __________________ FC: 4125 9011 9868 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65371

Dec 31st, 2009, 2:33:56 PM	#13106
Zowayix Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 335 USA	Would doing this work in DPPt: Play a game in an emulator, using RAM addresses to find the initial seed. Then plugging that seed into RNG Reporter, and seeing if anything noteworthy comes up. If it works, how would I do the bolded part? (From what I've read this also works in FR/LG, right?)

Dec 31st, 2009, 8:54:48 PM	#13109
blasphemy1 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,642 In the Hall of the Goblin King	Alright I don't know what I did wrong here, so maybe you could help me out. I am trying for a No Guard Adamant Machoke on Route 226. I fought the NPC there with Vs. Seeker to prevent her movement, then I went down to the grass and saved. I calculated my RNG advances, so my initial frame was 882. Since sweet scented pokemon in grass have a frame of 2, I subtracted that. Then I noticed in this article it also advances the frame by 1 just for sweet scenting in grass(I think this may have been the problem, is it just 2 like the chart says or 3-what the chart + this article states?). I did my RNG advances, etc, then used Sweet Scent. I encountered a Machoke with No Guard and an Adamant nature, but the IVs were off. Could the bold part of this post be the problem?

Dec 31st, 2009, 9:00:05 PM	#13111
pastel Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,166 ]= .Thinking about life. =[	when you use the coin flips, you check if you did the delay and seconds correctly?, including time?? __________________ Join #sprite on IRC. Trade Thread \| FC: 1677-0013-4079 I can make banners for your trade thread. Send me a message if you want me to work. Please send me a PM if you are willing to help me with HGSS RNG abuse. I need help, thank you. Last edited by pastel; Jan 1st, 2010 at 9:14:37 AM.

Dec 31st, 2009, 9:41:03 PM	#13113
c l e a r Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,280 Carousel of Agony	Just wondering... Can you just find an encounter slot for Silcoon/Cascoon and ignore the whole PID thing with Wurmple? I have a few HP Ground Modest Spreads that is 5+ for the last digit of the PID... __________________ いつからだろう君のことを追いかける There is no chance, no destiny, no fate, that can circumvent or hinder or control the firm resolve of a determined soul. - Ella Wheeler Wilcox Soul Silver FC: 5070 6986 0930 \| Black FC: 0218 1017 4907 I use legal hacks sometimes, events have been legit checked if I use them.

Dec 31st, 2009, 11:52:00 PM	#13115
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Ok since there aren't any trainers directly in Valley Windworks, but there are trainers near Valley Windworks, will I have to worry about the frame being affected? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Jan 1st, 2010, 12:38:30 AM	#13117
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Ok I was confused on something; Do I want to do 128 steps in the grass or do I just turn once? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Jan 1st, 2010, 12:41:34 AM	#13119
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Ok so I do that, but I still subtract the 5 party pokemon and then divide be 2 right? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Jan 1st, 2010, 12:45:56 AM	#13121
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Oh great thanks :) __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Jan 1st, 2010, 2:46:50 AM	#13122
undisputed The greatest oak was once a little nut that held its ground Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,044 Came by a fork in the road, and went straight	hey, guys. are there any tips that i should know for catching dratinis? i cant seem to ever get one. ive tried multiple different years, and everytime i hit my seed and delay and do my journal flips, i get "not even a nibble". and, yes i have checked encounter slots. i cant get one to show up on my diamond, so i need help __________________

Jan 1st, 2010, 2:58:20 AM	#13125
undisputed The greatest oak was once a little nut that held its ground Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,044 Came by a fork in the road, and went straight	thanks guys. i wish it were that easy, and thats why im asking. every time, i fit the requirements and i fail miserably. would id, affect it at all? i havent put that in, but i never heard you need to. ill probably give it another try later, and if i can magically get "not even a nibble" of a frame that should give me a pokemon. im gonna list the steps i do just to make sure im not overlooking things. 1. change date and time to match seed. 2. enter the game world and wait for 15 seconds before the new minute. my delay ends in 59 seconds. 3. then i soft reset and enter at :59 4. check and make sure i hit time + delay 5. im fishing so i take my frame and subtract 4 6. no wanderers 7. i then do my journal flips 8. now, at this point i have my super rod registered 9. i fish 10. every time, i get "not even a nibble" 5 consecutive times at least before something pops up 11. i am left confused and frustrated __________________