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Dxs · Jan 27th, 2010, 1:30:37 PM

Yes, perfect, thanks Bitter.

RockinX · Jan 27th, 2010, 2:39:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat RockinX

I haven't checked in a while, so I'm wondering if reliable RNG-advancing methods have been discovered for HGSS.

Reposting. I'd like to know if walking is my only option here.

Miilanda · Jan 27th, 2010, 4:16:12 PM

Since yesterday I tried to RNG a Cleffa on my Emerald. Still no good results after hours of trying to RNG. I'm actually wondering if I do everything right. It's my first time so maybe I missed something.

I've read the RNG guide for Emerald. I took this one that's on the list of the RNG guide:
Frame: 944
Time: 0.15.73
Spread: B / 19 / A / 30 / 30 / B

I know parent A is the Clefairy in the first slot and parent B in the second slot. Parent A has 30 in Def and Parent B has 31 in HP and 30 in Speed. So that should be fine.

What I do is saving before the DayCare Man while he has my Egg with a female Calm Cleffa. I SR and at the same time I start the stopwatch. I push A as fast as I can and talk till the DayCare Man says: 'Take good care of it.'
I wait till my stopwatch reached 15 seconds and end the conversation with the DayCare Man.
After this I hatch my Egg ofcourse and hopes I succesfully RNGed.

My question is: Am I doing this right?
Because I ain't sure after hours of trying...
Ofcourse this spread has a frame. I havn't read anything/a lot about frames. Is there anything Ive to do with frames?

Thanks for helping me. =)

Jigglez · Jan 27th, 2010, 5:24:46 PM

Can someone please explain how to rng abuse for method one pokemon on Emerald? I seem to have trouble with this

imapedarsag · Jan 27th, 2010, 5:45:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

I'm pretty sure that this is the best one:

Timid
31/22/30/31/31/31 (HP Ice 70)
seed: A21504F7, frame: 146 (on method J), delay: 1261 (for 2010)

Synchronize is not needed. :)

I don't know how you found that, but thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Miilanda

Since yesterday I tried to RNG a Cleffa on my Emerald. Still no good results after hours of trying to RNG. I'm actually wondering if I do everything right. It's my first time so maybe I missed something.

I've read the RNG guide for Emerald. I took this one that's on the list of the RNG guide:
Frame: 944
Time: 0.15.73
Spread: B / 19 / A / 30 / 30 / B

I know parent A is the Clefairy in the first slot and parent B in the second slot. Parent A has 30 in Def and Parent B has 31 in HP and 30 in Speed. So that should be fine.

What I do is saving before the DayCare Man while he has my Egg with a female Calm Cleffa. I SR and at the same time I start the stopwatch. I push A as fast as I can and talk till the DayCare Man says: 'Take good care of it.'
I wait till my stopwatch reached 15 seconds and end the conversation with the DayCare Man.
After this I hatch my Egg ofcourse and hopes I succesfully RNGed.

My question is: Am I doing this right?
Because I ain't sure after hours of trying...
Ofcourse this spread has a frame. I havn't read anything/a lot about frames. Is there anything Ive to do with frames?

Thanks for helping me. =)

not 15 seconds, 15.7333 to be exact. Maybe that's you're problem because everything else seems fine to me. Try using emloop too, that helps a lot.

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Originally Posted by Fat Jigglez

Can someone please explain how to rng abuse for method one pokemon on Emerald? I seem to have trouble with this

There's a bunch of guides if you haven't found one yet. Also, the question above you is a pretty good guide in itself.
Basically, what you do is stand next to the pokemon you're catching, or interacting with, whatever. Save. SR at the same time as starting a stop watch. Mash A until you get to the phrase before the IV's are created. Press A on the time for your frame.
To find the time for your frame, just take the frame and divide by 60.

My question is if that Buneary next to the daycare counts as a NPC.

Miilanda · Jan 27th, 2010, 7:21:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat imapedarsag

not 15 seconds, 15.7333 to be exact. Maybe that's you're problem because everything else seems fine to me. Try using emloop too, that helps a lot.

Yeah I know it's 15.73.. =)

Right now I'm trying the emloop. This does help me more then a simple stopwatch. Thanks. =)

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Originally Posted by Fat imapedarsag

My question is if that Buneary next to the daycare counts as a NPC.

Nope, it doesn't.

megamonk4 · Jan 27th, 2010, 9:26:54 PM

I ran into a problem for once while breeding. I am breeding for Nidoran(F), and I have my parents ready to go and everything. When I used the seedfinder to find my abilty/nature/gender, I manage to get get the first 2, but instead I get Nidoran(M); even from a spread that is only meant to be competely female! The only one's I've done so far is all female, and all male, and I still get male. I'm wondering if their factor is different from the other pokemon. I'm going to try the other gender spreads such as F/M/F/F, etc and see if I can get a female.

The_GAME · Jan 27th, 2010, 10:56:46 PM

Hey guys, I was wondering if it is possible to RNG an egg in your game, then trade it to someone elses.
If it is, do you put their IDs into RNG reporter, your IDs, or some weird combo that gives them a shiny egg?

pikachu25 · Jan 27th, 2010, 10:59:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat themoonglows

Hey guys, I was wondering if it is possible to RNG an egg in your game, then trade it to someone elses.
If it is, do you put their IDs into RNG reporter, your IDs, or some weird combo that gives them a shiny egg?

Yes you can. You simply RNG a shiny egg for their game on your game, then trade it over.

The_GAME · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:32:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat pikachu25

Yes you can. You simply RNG a shiny egg for their game on your game, then trade it over.

I've been testing that with someone. We tried:
My IDs then trading: Looked shiny on hatch screen. turned unshiny in summary
Their IDs: No shininess at all
My ID, their SID: It was shiny... but we did it again and it was unshiny. Was it a random "encounter" or a screw up on the second one?
My SID, their ID: unshiny

I can't think of any other way to do it...

Green Ranger · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:34:37 PM

I have a question. Im still confused aobut getting pokemon with flawless IV's by hatching. Could somebody explain it to me in simple terms and then how to do it in the game by RNG

Newts · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:35:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat themoonglows

I've been testing that with someone. We tried:
My IDs then trading: Looked shiny on hatch screen. turned unshiny in summary
Their IDs: No shininess at all
My ID, their SID: It was shiny... but we did it again and it was unshiny. Was it a random "encounter" or a screw up on the second one?
My SID, their ID: unshiny

I can't think of any other way to do it...

I have done it multiple times, you use thier ID and SID, trade the egg, it will hatch normal (because the egg has your IDs still, it doesnt change til after the animation) then when you check its summary it will be shiny

The_GAME · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:36:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Newts_Ute

I have done it multiple times, you use thier ID and SID, trade the egg, it will hatch normal (because the egg has your IDs still, it doesnt change til after the animation) then when you check its summary it will be shiny

Really? because that's the exact opposite of what happened when we did that...

Newts · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:46:47 PM

Did the egg hatch with the correct Nature, Gender and ability? If not you messed up.
If yes, the game your trading it to has given you Incorret IDS

The_GAME · Jan 27th, 2010, 11:49:01 PM

we're trying once more... I know I did the taps right because it was only 8 this time
And her IDs are right because I have one of her pokemon and checked them myself

EDIT: That last one, which I KNOW I did correctly, came out unshiny

RockinX · Jan 28th, 2010, 12:50:36 AM

When calculating a seed, I know what the delay is, but what are the seconds supposed to be? I get a TOTALLY different number of seconds every time I calculate my seed. I can get a constant delay, but the seconds are always off.

Improbability · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:08:41 AM

Can pokeRNG be used to search dppt breeding spreads?

Edit: And wow Luminary, thanks for that info. Knowing that earlier would have saved me so much grief -.- ...

Luminary · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:25:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat RockinX

When calculating a seed, I know what the delay is, but what are the seconds supposed to be? I get a TOTALLY different number of seconds every time I calculate my seed. I can get a constant delay, but the seconds are always off.

I went through this as well. I missed the fact that "seconds" is not how many seconds it took you from reset to continue. It's literally "seconds" as in time, time on the DS clock. So if you reset at 12:00, and hit "continue" at 12:00 and 15 seconds, the seconds should be 15. If you reset at 12:00, 30 seconds, and hit "continue" at 12:00 and 45 seconds, your "seconds" will be 45. I hope this explains it.

Perhaps this part of the RNG article could be improved to reinforce the fact that "seconds" is not just delay in a different unit of measurement.

mattj · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:28:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Evil Murkrow

Can pokeRNG be used to search dppt breeding spreads?

yes input 0 instead of 1 i think

RockinX · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:30:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Luminary

I went through this as well. I missed the fact that "seconds" is not how many seconds it took you from reset to continue. It's literally "seconds" as in time, time on the DS clock. So if you reset at 12:00, and hit "continue" at 12:00 and 15 seconds, the seconds should be 15. If you reset at 12:00, 30 seconds, and hit "continue" at 12:00 and 45 seconds, your "seconds" will be 45. I hope this explains it.

Perhaps this part of the RNG article could be improved to reinforce the fact that "seconds" is not just delay in a different unit of measurement.

Thanks!

imapedarsag · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:32:11 AM

Yeah, I went through the seconds problem too. So, can JavaRNG find breeding spreads as well, because I don't think so?

RockinX · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:47:26 AM

Say my target frame is 33, and is also the first frame with the desired nature. If I use a synchronizer, do I need to advance the frames?

timetwister · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:51:52 AM

Yes, the synchronizer modifies what the frames are. It doesn't guarantee that you'll get something of that nature. I assume since you're talking Synchs, you're doing a Method J capture. Make sure you have a synch selected in the drop-down menu in RNG reporter below Method J. This will show the changes with the Synch. Then you can find the lowest frame with the correct encounter slot (or if you're doing a legend, the lowest frame), then you advance the frame enough so that the Monster frame (2 for sweet scent in grass, 1 for most stationary legends [I'd check the guide for exact ones]) takes you to your target frame.

RockinX · Jan 28th, 2010, 1:59:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat timetwister

Yes, the synchronizer modifies what the frames are. It doesn't guarantee that you'll get something of that nature. I assume since you're talking Synchs, you're doing a Method J capture. Make sure you have a synch selected in the drop-down menu in RNG reporter below Method J. This will show the changes with the Synch. Then you can find the lowest frame with the correct encounter slot (or if you're doing a legend, the lowest frame), then you advance the frame enough so that the Monster frame (2 for sweet scent in grass, 1 for most stationary legends [I'd check the guide for exact ones]) takes you to your target frame.

AHH! I had forgotten legendaries in HGSS are Method J and not Method 1 :X Thank you for reminding me.

timetwister · Jan 28th, 2010, 2:02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat RockinX

AHH! I had forgotten legendaries in HGSS are Method J and not Method 1 :X Thank you for reminding me.

Oh, it's in HGSS. Nevermind, some of those are method K, though I don't know which ones, you'd need to check the RNG research thread for that.

Jan 27th, 2010, 1:30:37 PM	#14026
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Jan 27th, 2010, 5:24:46 PM	#14029
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Jan 27th, 2010, 9:26:54 PM	#14032
megamonk4 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 648	I ran into a problem for once while breeding. I am breeding for Nidoran(F), and I have my parents ready to go and everything. When I used the seedfinder to find my abilty/nature/gender, I manage to get get the first 2, but instead I get Nidoran(M); even from a spread that is only meant to be competely female! The only one's I've done so far is all female, and all male, and I still get male. I'm wondering if their factor is different from the other pokemon. I'm going to try the other gender spreads such as F/M/F/F, etc and see if I can get a female. __________________ Diamond FC: 1763 3039 2213[Trade] Platinum FC: 3953 9424 1944[OU Battle] Soul Silver FC:5285 7922 5054[NU/UU Battle]White JPN FC: 3224 1436 6447 Trade Thread WANTS - especially emerald move tutor pokemon, :D If I UU battle, no BL please. If I OU battle, no rotom formes(shouldn't be able to play with them anyways, :P).

Jan 27th, 2010, 10:56:46 PM	#14033
The_GAME Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 266	Hey guys, I was wondering if it is possible to RNG an egg in your game, then trade it to someone elses. If it is, do you put their IDs into RNG reporter, your IDs, or some weird combo that gives them a shiny egg? __________________ 0646-3730-9346 lolfail - My Trade Thread I liek oddishes... wut are mudkips?

Jan 27th, 2010, 11:34:37 PM	#14036
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Jan 27th, 2010, 4:16:12 PM	#14028
Miilanda Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 52 Netherlands	Since yesterday I tried to RNG a Cleffa on my Emerald. Still no good results after hours of trying to RNG. I'm actually wondering if I do everything right. It's my first time so maybe I missed something. I've read the RNG guide for Emerald. I took this one that's on the list of the RNG guide: Frame: 944 Time: 0.15.73 Spread: B / 19 / A / 30 / 30 / B I know parent A is the Clefairy in the first slot and parent B in the second slot. Parent A has 30 in Def and Parent B has 31 in HP and 30 in Speed. So that should be fine. What I do is saving before the DayCare Man while he has my Egg with a female Calm Cleffa. I SR and at the same time I start the stopwatch. I push A as fast as I can and talk till the DayCare Man says: 'Take good care of it.' I wait till my stopwatch reached 15 seconds and end the conversation with the DayCare Man. After this I hatch my Egg ofcourse and hopes I succesfully RNGed. My question is: Am I doing this right? Because I ain't sure after hours of trying... Ofcourse this spread has a frame. I havn't read anything/a lot about frames. Is there anything Ive to do with frames? Thanks for helping me. =)

Jan 27th, 2010, 11:46:47 PM	#14039
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Jan 27th, 2010, 11:49:01 PM	#14040
The_GAME Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 266	we're trying once more... I know I did the taps right because it was only 8 this time And her IDs are right because I have one of her pokemon and checked them myself EDIT: That last one, which I KNOW I did correctly, came out unshiny __________________ 0646-3730-9346 lolfail - My Trade Thread I liek oddishes... wut are mudkips? Last edited by The_GAME; Jan 28th, 2010 at 12:07:57 AM.

Jan 28th, 2010, 12:50:36 AM	#14041
RockinX My goal in life is to make everyone cringe with my bad puns Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,249	When calculating a seed, I know what the delay is, but what are the seconds supposed to be? I get a TOTALLY different number of seconds every time I calculate my seed. I can get a constant delay, but the seconds are always off. __________________ White: 4727-8034-9319 White 2: 4513-9096-8698 Joint trade thread with OmegaDonut If I ask for something on SQSR, don't link me to Pokecheck. If I were willing to use it, I wouldn't be asking for it there. My blog. I'm compiling a list of vocabulary used in Japanese game manuals to help me and other people learn the language of the Land of the Rising Sun.

Jan 28th, 2010, 1:08:41 AM	#14042
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Jan 28th, 2010, 1:32:11 AM	#14046
imapedarsag Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 580 Los Angeles	Yeah, I went through the seconds problem too. So, can JavaRNG find breeding spreads as well, because I don't think so? __________________ Black FC: 1077 2076 6240 Soul Silver FC: 1978 2404 4146 The Pedarsag's Palace(Trade Thread)

Jan 28th, 2010, 1:47:26 AM	#14047
RockinX My goal in life is to make everyone cringe with my bad puns Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,249	Say my target frame is 33, and is also the first frame with the desired nature. If I use a synchronizer, do I need to advance the frames? __________________ White: 4727-8034-9319 White 2: 4513-9096-8698 Joint trade thread with OmegaDonut If I ask for something on SQSR, don't link me to Pokecheck. If I were willing to use it, I wouldn't be asking for it there. My blog. I'm compiling a list of vocabulary used in Japanese game manuals to help me and other people learn the language of the Land of the Rising Sun.

Jan 28th, 2010, 1:51:52 AM	#14048
timetwister Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,141 busyTIME	Yes, the synchronizer modifies what the frames are. It doesn't guarantee that you'll get something of that nature. I assume since you're talking Synchs, you're doing a Method J capture. Make sure you have a synch selected in the drop-down menu in RNG reporter below Method J. This will show the changes with the Synch. Then you can find the lowest frame with the correct encounter slot (or if you're doing a legend, the lowest frame), then you advance the frame enough so that the Monster frame (2 for sweet scent in grass, 1 for most stationary legends [I'd check the guide for exact ones]) takes you to your target frame. __________________ My Joint Thread With Jubilee --Main Wants (Updated Mar. 17, 2011) Platinum FC: 2149 5124 8962 HG FC: 0603 8522 2148 (Battles only) White FC: 3653 6175 9442 I'm quite active on #smogonwifi, so you can reach me there too!