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[.River]

Hmm, it said I needed to go through the steps i've already done to get a shiny egg. So were those steps completely pointless?

[pastel]

Originally Posted by Fat .River

Hmm, it said I needed to go through the steps i've already done to get a shiny egg. So were those steps completely pointless?

exactly

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat pastel

you need to restart everything.
if youn don't do calibration, there's no IV for you.

EDIT:
btw, i keep getting the same seed, is there something wrong? the RNG reporter? some other stuff?

Pastel not to be rude but your wrong on what you just said, he doesnt need to restart at all

Originally Posted by Fat .River

I'm not sure if I need to skip any steps. Like this frame calibration thing =\ . It seems important, but I already have the parents in the daycare and they've had sex and made an egg.

The Egg Frame Calibration is very important or else you wont know what Frame your Egg is on, and your at the right step right now to do it =) Well once you have an Egg waiting in the Daycare that is which you do.
Select a seed with your Desired IV's and enter your DS to its time and date and enter the game, making sure the journal pops up, then hurry up and mash a to collect the egg and then check the 10 coin flips the game gives you and then right click on the seed you used and click genrate adjacent results and click search flips and enter the 10 flips the game gave you. then copy the seed it gives you to the clipboard and put Breeding DPPt as the Mehtod and then Hatch your Egg check its IV's and then find out what Frame matches your Eggs IV's and thats what Frame your Egg is on =)

[.River]

How do I find these seeds with my desired IVs? My shiny seed that I sr'd for is 5E000266

[pastel]

just a question, why I keep getting this seed:

EA00028E

again and again, it's the same.

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat .River

How do I find these seeds with my desired IVs? My shiny seed that I sr'd for is 5E000266

Click on the Time Finder Function on the RNG Reporter and use the Egg IV's Tab =)

[The_GAME]

About RNG catching, why do people use weird years?
Is it because they have relatively low delays and can lower them enough to bring it into their normal mashing range?
Why can't they use emloop or pikatimer instead?

EDIT: Okay, thanks, I was just curious

[pastel]

Originally Posted by Fat The_GAME

About RNG catching, why do people use weird years?
Is it because they have relatively low delays and can lower them enough to bring it into their normal mashing range?
Why can't they use emloop or pikatimer instead?

because depending on the yar, the delay changes, and if you use a year of 2009, you could find weirddelays you would problably won't get.

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat The_GAME

About RNG catching, why do people use weird years?
Is it because they have relatively low delays and can lower them enough to bring it into their normal mashing range?
Why can't they use emloop or pikatimer instead?

because not everyone is the same. for some its difficult to use a timer as they don't understand it or have difficulty keeping track with one. That's why they use weird dates to get within range as they can't use a timer.

[gaudetjaja]

I have a question: when my synch. time is for example 14:04:00, and my reset time is like 14:04:24, how am I supposed to SR at that time, because it takes more than 20 seconds to start up the game... do I need to pick a different target time? I don't really get it, I only just started RNGing.

Fyi, my seed is 060E027E and I am trying to capture a good ghastly in the old chateau in pearl.

[Destiny100]

Okay, don't have a go at me if I've missed something here.

Before I got an AR I manually worked out of SID for my Diamond. Which was 60496 SID, and 63429 ID.

However, I recently got the AR code for pokemon stats checker which checks everything, Evs, Ivs, Happiness ect. So as I was just randomly using it, I checked the SID for my Diamond game, it said my Diamond ID was the same but my SID was 60500.
My question is, how is this possible? I've bred shinies on my diamond using the number I manually worked out but the AR code just told me my SID isn't what I thought it was?

Does that mean it's possible to have more than 1 SID?
Or did I just miss something?

[Newts]

Originally Posted by Fat Destiny100

Okay, don't have a go at me if I've missed something here.

Before I got an AR I manually worked out of SID for my Diamond. Which was 60496 SID, and 63429 ID.

However, I recently got the AR code for pokemon stats checker which checks everything, Evs, Ivs, Happiness ect. So as I was just randomly using it, I checked the SID for my Diamond game, it said my Diamond ID was the same but my SID was 60500.
My question is, how is this possible? I've bred shinies on my diamond using the number I manually worked out but the AR code just told me my SID isn't what I thought it was?

Does that mean it's possible to have more than 1 SID?
Or did I just miss something?

Nah thats normal, RNG Reporter will find a compatable SID given the IVs and ID, I believe if your SID is within 8 of the number you are using there will be no issue

[Kevin]

I have a question, when rng capturing with the pokeradar, is there a way to know what pokemon will come out of the patch?

[Destiny100]

Originally Posted by Fat Newts_Ute

Nah thats normal, RNG Reporter will find a compatable SID given the IVs and ID, I believe if your SID is within 8 of the number you are using there will be no issue

^ hmm, looks like I was only 4 out? :), not bad imo.

So as long as I'm +/-4 (ish?) of the SID (in my case 60500), if I enter any of those, I should get the same shininess.
Does this apply to shiny spreads too? So if I change my SID by 1-8... I'm thinking my shiny spreads won't change?

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat Kevin

I have a question, when rng capturing with the pokeradar, is there a way to know what pokemon will come out of the patch?

no as the normal encounter slots don't work for radar. But if you hit the same delay the same patches will shake and the same pokemon will appear in them assuming you make the same number of advancements while getting to the patch.

[FrenzyB3ar]

concerning egg abuse

is it safe to say that if you save on a frame of 1 then theres no need to verify
the results.

[Destiny100]

Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

The Egg Frame Calibration is very important or else you wont know what Frame your Egg is on, and your at the right step right now to do it =) Well once you have an Egg waiting in the Daycare that is which you do.
Select a seed with your Desired IV's and enter your DS to its time and date and enter the game, making sure the journal pops up, then hurry up and mash a to collect the egg and then check the 10 coin flips the game gives you and then right click on the seed you used and click genrate adjacent results and click search flips and enter the 10 flips the game gave you. then copy the seed it gives you to the clipboard and put Breeding DPPt as the Mehtod and then Hatch your Egg check its IV's and then find out what Frame matches your Eggs IV's and thats what Frame your Egg is on =)

Akiraton posting about egg abuse just reminded me I wanted to comment on this.
This is not the way I do Frame Calibration but now I think about it, it's pretty good :).

My way:
Synch DS time with extrenal clock, make sure you know the date on your DS.
Go into the game, taking note which minute you entered the game.
Quickly close journal and pick up your egg.
Catch a level 50+ pokemon (Or just use IV check on a lower level pokemon) and find your seed.
Enter your seed into RNG reporter and dropdown onto "Breeding DPPt" and click generate.
Hatch egg + check IVs to see what frame you're on. I normally do this 2-3 times, if I get all 3 different frames I'll resave in a different position. If I get 2 the same + 1 different, I'll calibrate it twice more.
Then I search for a seed so I can hit. It helps if you have good parents in the Daycare. :)

But yeah, both way works :). Find the one that suits you

[FrenzyB3ar]

Originally Posted by Fat Destiny100

Akiraton posting about egg abuse just reminded me I wanted to comment on this.
This is not the way I do Frame Calibration but now I think about it, it's pretty good :).

My way:
Synch DS time with extrenal clock, make sure you know the date on your DS.
Go into the game, taking note which minute you entered the game.
Quickly close journal and pick up your egg.
Catch a level 50+ pokemon (Or just use IV check on a lower level pokemon) and find your seed.
Enter your seed into RNG reporter and dropdown onto "Breeding DPPt" and click generate.
Hatch egg + check IVs to see what frame you're on. I normally do this 2-3 times, if I get all 3 different frames I'll resave in a different position. If I get 2 the same + 1 different, I'll calibrate it twice more.
Then I search for a seed so I can hit. It helps if you have good parents in the Daycare. :)

But yeah, both way works :). Find the one that suits you

I actually use your method, but was just saying if its frame 1 that your saved on, then there is no need to verify. Just wondered if im correct or not

[Newts]

I'd still verify, on different seeds the NPCs can act differently, I confirmed 3 times I had frame 5, then when I hit my seed, hatched the egg, somehow I'd managed to get a frame 4

[Dan Dan]

If there is a long gap before the NPCs start moving (by long I mean like 0.5 secs lol), then there's usually no need to do it all again... but if you have an inkling that someone may have moved then it's probably best to do it once more to be doubly sure.

For the record, I use the same method as Steve, but instead of transferring the seed to the main screen, I do all my RNGing in the adjacent results table since they contain the IVs anyway :)

[FrenzyB3ar]

thanks alot guys for the input, helped a great deal.
I'll try the other method too as seems less time consuming in theory.

[acid_paradox]

I have a question regarding Wondercard abuse (again). Can you RNG up shiny Wondercard pokés? I have a method 1 shiny spread with 30/30/31/1/31/31 for the IV' on frame 7, and I was wondering if the shininess will be passed onto the wondercard poke. Or is the wondercard poke UNABLE to be shiny unless it's the VGC Milotic? (In case it matters, I am going to be RNG'ing the NZ Draco Meteor Jirachi)?

[volch]

Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

I have a question regarding Wondercard abuse (again). Can you RNG up shiny Wondercard pokés? I have a method 1 shiny spread with 30/30/31/1/31/31 for the IV' on frame 7, and I was wondering if the shininess will be passed onto the wondercard poke. Or is the wondercard poke UNABLE to be shiny unless it's the VGC Milotic? (In case it matters, I am going to be RNG'ing the NZ Draco Meteor Jirachi)?

The reason why the nature is not coupled with the IV spread is because that part of the PID is randomized so that wondercard Pokes CANNOT be shiny unless hard coded to be so, such as in the case of the VGC Milotic.

[ΩDonut]

Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

I have a question regarding Wondercard abuse (again). Can you RNG up shiny Wondercard pokés? I have a method 1 shiny spread with 30/30/31/1/31/31 for the IV' on frame 7, and I was wondering if the shininess will be passed onto the wondercard poke. Or is the wondercard poke UNABLE to be shiny unless it's the VGC Milotic? (In case it matters, I am going to be RNG'ing the NZ Draco Meteor Jirachi)?

All Wondercard Pokemon will never be shiny unless they're specifically set to be shiny.

[volch]

Two questions:

PokeRNG flubs on frames higher than 1000, is there any way to easily search for these higher frame spreads? I don't have excel so the spread sheet doesn't work for me.

Is there a way to check for low frame shiny eggs for use on HGSS without modifying the Reporter?