Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[Pokethan]

I know I have heard this before but I can't remember, what is the program that I can get multiple good iv spreads with low frame numbers? I know there is one someone mentioned before but I can't remember the name. Anyone know?

EDIT: I just laerned how to predict what radio shows are on when so you can always use the trainer profile show instead of the incosistent Town show. Every even hour is when the trainer profile show is on and odd hours are the town show. So if you want to advance by 3 then you have to use the lower left on an even hour. Any station that has more than one show alternates every hour.

EDIT2: YES! I finally caught the Lugia I wanted in the ball I wanted! Finally! It was so worth it!

[Showsni]

About 'phoning Elm; I transferred over a Pokémon with Pokérus, and was running about with it, when Elm 'phoned me and told me about Pokérus. However, however many times I call him he doesn't mention Pokérus; it's always either "Some Pokémon eggs take different times to hatch" or "We don't know how egg moves work" (paraphrasing here). Yes, I showed him the Togepi. Is there anything else I need to do?

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Showsni

About 'phoning Elm; I transferred over a Pokémon with Pokérus, and was running about with it, when Elm 'phoned me and told me about Pokérus. However, however many times I call him he doesn't mention Pokérus; it's always either "Some Pokémon eggs take different times to hatch" or "We don't know how egg moves work" (paraphrasing here). Yes, I showed him the Togepi. Is there anything else I need to do?

Have you been in Kanto?

[gameman87]

I have just ONE question regarding HGSS Breeding: How do power items work? Do they just change one inheritance and leave the others unaffected or do they jumble up everything?

[sandman]

does anyone know how much encountering a wild pokemon in cave advances the frame?

[DarkChaos (HCZ)]

Does anyone know the improvement of RNGReport 7.30?
(This is Darkchaos HCZ)

[acid_paradox]

I have a question regarding radar abuse:
If you have a shiny spread that you want to use, and you do all of the frame advancements required for the shiny spread, and you walk into a non-shiny patch of pokeradar grass, will it be shiny or not?

[Misdreavus]

When you have a choice between three method 1 Pokémon in HG/SS (Johto starters / Kanto starters / Hoenn starters / Sinnoh legendary dragons), is it true that they're generated on three different frames? If so, what Pokémon in each of these 4 categories are on what frame?

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Pony Express

Does anyone know the improvement of RNGReport 7.30?
(This is Darkchaos HCZ)

First of all: It stands in the Changelog on the Website.
Support for HG/SS IV Breeding.

[Eyelander]

(Ok, first time back into pokemon in about 3 years, so I'm way out of date on a lot of things. I've only just started with rng abusing decent-spread shiny legendaries.)

How does one go about making sure you are rng-ing for the right species of Poke in the wild? Emerald RNG-ing seems to involve just redo-ing the process if the species ends up being the wrong one. I haven't found any statement of this sort regarding DPP in any of the guides.

About how many frames at max would you guys consider RNG-ing for in DPP (capturing method-wise; I don't know if the frame counts are different for RNG breeding)? I've been setting the max frame to be 4-5K. I don't know if that's considered a lot or a little.

Is there any way to tell where the shiny+multi-31 spreads are for my id/sid without simply setting my max frame search to ridiculously high levels (does that even work?)?

[Atomsk777]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

First of all: It stands in the Changelog on the Website.
Support for HG/SS IV Breeding.

I think that stands out above all else as ALMOST necessary.... lol

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Eyelander

(Ok, first time back into pokemon in about 3 years, so I'm way out of date on a lot of things. I've only just started with rng abusing decent-spread shiny legendaries.)

How does one go about making sure you are rng-ing for the right species of Poke in the wild? Emerald RNG-ing seems to involve just redo-ing the process if the species ends up being the wrong one. I haven't found any statement of this sort regarding DPP in any of the guides.

About how many frames at max would you guys consider RNG-ing for in DPP (capturing method-wise; I don't know if the frame counts are different for RNG breeding)? I've been setting the max frame to be 4-5K. I don't know if that's considered a lot or a little.

Is there any way to tell where the shiny+multi-31 spreads are for my id/sid without simply setting my max frame search to ridiculously high levels (does that even work?)?

Encounter Slots. Every Frame of a Seed has a different Encounter Slot, RNG Reporter tells you about that and it helps you by calculating them which you can find out then by a Sheet which RNG Reporter links you to.

For the max frame: it depends. I'm lazy and so I rarely even go over 500.
It is always the High Delay vs High Frame Question, High Delay is worth it.
But yeah I've also heard already of guys reaching 4K and higher but this is rather rare if you ask me.

ID Finder. Very first page of this thread.
Also OmegaDonut has worked out a nice way to get multiple nice shiny spreads, check his sig for that .

Originally Posted by Fat Pokemon Coordinater777

I think that stands out above all else as ALMOST necessary.... lol

I'm rather eagerly waiting for mingot impelementing the Seed Verifier, as this was one of the things that actually are needen most if you ask me.xD
HG/SS IV Breeding yeah nice, but with Kazos Breeding Method (only B inheritance) and his worked out spread it also worked out fine. So Seed Verifier is more important to me :P

[Atomsk777]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

Encounter Slots. Every Frame of a Seed has a different Encounter Slot, RNG Reporter tells you about that and it helps you by calculating them which you can find out then by a Sheet which RNG Reporter links you to.

For the max frame: it depends. I'm lazy and so I rarely even go over 500.
It is always the High Delay vs High Frame Question, High Delay is worth it.
But yeah I've also heard already of guys reaching 4K and higher but this is rather rare if you ask me.

ID Finder. Very first page of this thread.
Also OmegaDonut has worked out a nice way to get multiple nice shiny spreads, check his sig for that .



I'm rather eagerly waiting for mingot impelementing the Seed Verifier, as this was one of the things that actually are needen most if you ask me.xD
HG/SS IV Breeding yeah nice, but with Kazos Breeding Method (only B inheritance) and his worked out spread it also worked out fine. So Seed Verifier is more important to me :P

I don't follow you... seed verify? I just catch a wild poke.... (although this would be a TREMENDOUS help with Suicune, or Zapdos....) I'm assuming this would of course be some sort of solution to always having to catch a poke?

speaking of which... does anybody have any Bold Hidden Power Ice, Modest Hidden Power Grass, and Calm Hidden Power Ground Method K spreads? (synch, no synch, I don't care) I mean... its cool if I don't get an answer... but it would just make my job a WHOLE lot easier....

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

Seed Verifier DPPt&HG/SS 0.1 English Beta
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w9hx54
This is an .EXE version of the Standalone Seed Verifier for DPPt and HG/SS.
Anyone who wants to play around with it please do so.
Report the results please to me, check the Research Thread, where we have covered some explanation of this.
I'd like to know about some things, and due to not being able to use DeSmuMe at the moment maybe anyone of you who is bored can clear up some remaining questions.

Meaning: By using answer patterns of Calling Elm, or the Position of the Roamers, it is possible to verify your seed WITHOUT catching a Pokemon.
Similar to the Poketch Coin Toss Method in DPPt

This was just a beta for people who wanna play around with it and see if it works ( it does btw.xD)

But I sent mingot the source code and he says he understands the process and will implement this (hopefully soon) in RNG Reporter.

Edit: If you wanna use it: For the Elm Method you gotta have shown Elm the Togepi Egg, been in Kanto and also have a Pokemon that has Pokerus so he calls you about every of this incidents.

For the Roamers: Basically easy you got a map with marks, Seed Verifier gives you the numbers of the Roamers on particular Seed so you can see if you are on your desired seed.
Only thing I don't know yet is what the entry boxes for the Routes are for, but I hope that mingot knows and he'll know what to do with it.xD
Anyways it also works without the boxes.

[Atomsk777]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

Meaning: By using answer patterns of Calling Elm, or the Position of the Roamers, it is possible to verify your seed WITHOUT catching a Pokemon.
Similar to the Poketch Coin Toss Method in DPPt

This was just a beta for people who wanna play around with it and see if it works ( it does btw.xD)

But I sent mingot the source code and he says he understands the process and will implement this (hopefully soon) in RNG Reporter.

Edit: If you wanna use it: For the Elm Method you gotta have shown Elm the Togepi Egg, been in Kanto and also have a Pokemon that has Pokerus so he calls you about every of this incidents.

For the Roamers: Basically easy you got a map with marks, Seed Verifier gives you the numbers of the Roamers on particular Seed so you can see if you are on your desired seed.
Only thing I don't know yet is what the entry boxes for the Routes are for, but I hope that mingot knows and he'll know what to do with it.xD
Anyways it also works without the boxes.

lol.... well that seems useful for the most part... but cant be used for Raikou, Entei, Luia, or Ho-Oh (well... unless Roamers is a completely different method from calling elm) due to the fact that you can't be in Kanto for any of them... and ESPECIALLY for Raikou/Entei because at that point you cannot have roamers at all... and you aren't in Kanto.... but I suppose it would help for SAuicune (a LOT I bet)... hmm.... I think I just MAY try it with Suicune....

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Pokemon Coordinater777

lol.... well that seems useful for the most part... but cant be used for Raikou, Entei, Luia, or Ho-Oh (well... unless Roamers is a completely different method from calling elm) due to the fact that you can't be in Kanto for any of them... and ESPECIALLY for Raikou/Entei because at that point you cannot have roamers at all... and you aren't in Kanto.... but I suppose it would help for SAuicune (a LOT I bet)... hmm.... I think I just MAY try it with Suicune....

This was my very first thought too, BUT you forget something:

1. You can respawn Raikou, Entei, Lugia, Ho-Oh at E4
2. You don't have to be in Kanto for the Method you just have to been there once in order to get the call, but not for the method itself

[Atomsk777]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

This was my very first thought too, BUT you forget something:

1. You can respawn Raikou, Entei, Lugia, Ho-Oh at E4
2. You don't have to be in Kanto for the Method you just have to been there once in order to get the call, but not for the method itself

OH... I thought you HAD to be in Kanto... and the thing about Raikou and Entei is that it is VERY hard to get them after the E4....

[mingot**]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

Kazos Breeding Method (only B inheritance) and his worked out spread it also worked out fine. So Seed Verifier is more important to me :P

The problem is, though, that it doesn't actually work like that and it won't always work. I don't even think it works most of the time.

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat mingot

The problem is, though, that it doesn't actually work like that and it won't always work. I don't even think it works most of the time.

Actually it does on a few seeds only it seems, so no matter what it was very important to find out about HG/SS IV breeding method.

Btw mingot about Seed Verifier:
gamefan87 found out that by calling Elm the Frame is advanced everytime constantly +1.
Maybe this should be taken into account as verifying your seed would advance your frame actually +10 if you use the Elm Method.

[Atomsk777]

I guess it seems I don't fully understand the problem with the HG/SS breeding... whats so hard about it?

[Pokethan]

Originally Posted by Fat Pokemon Coordinater777

I guess it seems I don't fully understand the problem with the HG/SS breeding... whats so hard about it?

You can't really advance the egg frames as far as I know so you have to keep getting eggs to advance to the shiny one. It sounds like a pain.

[Romsstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Pokethan

You can't really advance the egg frames as far as I know so you have to keep getting eggs to advance to the shiny one. It sounds like a pain.

Nah not really. RNG Reporter 7.3 supports low shiny egg frames, so you even can get a shiny egg on Frame 1, so the very first egg you would fetch would be a shiny too.

[Atomsk777]

Originally Posted by Fat Romsstar

Nah not really. RNG Reporter 7.3 supports low shiny egg frames, so you even can get a shiny egg on Frame 1, so the very first egg you would fetch would be a shiny too.

well I'm not concerned about Shiny-ness... just IVs... is there a problem there somewhere?

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat Pokemon Coordinater777

well I'm not concerned about Shiny-ness... just IVs... is there a problem there somewhere?

certain seeds don't work so you can;t just pick anyseed you want when breeding like in D/P/Pt and expect it to give you the IVs you want

[d2m]

Alright, I'm really, REALLY confused here. I decided to give this RNG reporter thing a shot. I did a calibration test and got my initial seed. The next step says to do 10 coin flips, but I'm in Heart Gold and don't have the app...what am I supposed to do next?

I'm trying to catch things with decent IVs, so I'm guessing I do method J, but how do I select which one I want to capture in a given area?