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[Mercury]

Originally Posted by Fat Dea

Volbeats are male.

Ilumises are female.

You people should really create the habit of looking this up at serebii's/ psypoke's/ Bulbapedia's pokedex.

I was already aware of their genders. However, last time I tried that, I got the incorrect Pokemon.

[Dea]

Originally Posted by Fat Mercury

I was already aware of their genders. However, last time I tried that, I got the incorrect Pokemon.

At the "discuss my pokemon" someone recently RNGed both ilumise and volbeat. Maybe you could VM/PM that person.

[jones115]

Just a question here:
when calibrating your delay and seconds is it soppose to fluctuate
cause I only got like 57,57,45,23,21 as far as I know I checked with vista clock and I saw that I went in game at like 14-15 sec,so I don't know what's wrong :(
someone help me please

[acetrainerzx]

Originally Posted by Fat acetrainerzx

Hello, I am back but only for a short moment though

I have a quick question regarding the WiFi Jirachi Wondercard on HG:

It's Method one with a starting frame of 1, right?

[Expert Evan]

@acetrainerzx: method wondercard frame 1 on RNG Reporter.

I've been trying the bug catching contest in National Park and so far it clearly doesn't seem to match nor correspond with Method K non-synch as I've targeted frame 206 only to get what appears to be that of frame 248. Next time I shifted back in difference only to get a different spread from another frame. I'm using a smeargle with sweet scent, spore & false swipe which means the lack of a synchronizer there. It appears the species, gender & spread get determined at time of catch at least.

[acetrainerzx]

^ Can I use time finder? If yes, what method is it?

[Eiganjo]

Originally Posted by Fat Expert Evan

@acetrainerzx: method wondercard frame 1 on RNG Reporter.

I've been trying the bug catching contest in National Park and so far it clearly doesn't seem to match nor correspond with Method K non-synch as I've targeted frame 206 only to get what appears to be that of frame 248. Next time I shifted back in difference only to get a different spread from another frame. I'm using a smeargle with sweet scent, spore & false swipe which means the lack of a synchronizer there. It appears the species, gender & spread get determined at time of catch at least.

I've been struggling with the bug catching contest as well. It seems to be very inconsistent at the very least. Im currently busy doing some safari abuse and having success with that, so I'm going to reveal my findings when I actually try some more pokemon, to see if the encounterslots stay the same for every item that is used in the safari.
I've used the plains items succesfully, now im going to test the peak ones and hopefully the encounterslots will be the exact same if theres only 1 type of item on the field.

[COKTAL]

Originally Posted by Fat Dea

Volbeats are male.

Ilumises are female.

You people should really create the habit of looking this up at serebii's/ psypoke's/ Bulbapedia's pokedex.

Originally Posted by Fat Mercury

I was already aware of their genders. However, last time I tried that, I got the incorrect Pokemon.

I believe that their breeding pattern is similar to Nidoking/queen's. With them, if you breed a male nido with a Ditto, you will always get male. But if you breed a female with anything else, there is a 50/50 chance of getting male or female.

Note: I haven't tried Volbeat/Illumise myself, but it sounds like the same basic idea.

[jones115]

Can someone answer my question please please
here's the question:


when calibrating your delay and seconds is it soppose to fluctuate
cause I only got like 57,57,45,23,21 as far as I know I checked with vista clock and I saw that I went in game at like 14-15 sec,so I don't know what's wrong :(
someone help me please

[Mercury]

Originally Posted by Fat COKTAL

I believe that their breeding pattern is similar to Nidoking/queen's. With them, if you breed a male nido with a Ditto, you will always get male. But if you breed a female with anything else, there is a 50/50 chance of getting male or female.

Note: I haven't tried Volbeat/Illumise myself, but it sounds like the same basic idea.

Ohh, I'll try that.

Thanks!

[ventus603]

Ok I finally hit my seed, and am on frame 5, My target frame is 9. Do I pick up the egg at frame 8 or 9? I already did the shiny and nature part btw and this is for IVs.

[nevada11]

I have a problem thats quite rare here. This problem that I have has occured twice so I know its not a one-time-thing.

I'm RNG abusing for egg IVs, I'm 100% positive (after verifying 4 times) that my save frame is 7. I've found a seed of my liking which requires that I switch my date and time to October 5, 2014 and 6:01:14. Of course, I do the usual syncing my DS time a minute & 14 secs before hand and soft resetting once a minute rolls over. But this is where my problem occurs -- after hitting my delay & normal seconds (which took a couple number of times obviously) my pokemon surprisingly does NOT match the IVs of my seed. And yes, the flip sequence matched perfectly with my delay (626).

I later decided to level up the pokemon to find out its IVs (the reason how I already know the pokemon doesn't match the IVs of my seed is because the pokemon, dratini, has 12 hp stat at level 1 if it has a flawless hp IV. this hatch has 11) and I find out the IVs match perfectly with a different seed, with the same delay as mine. However, this different seed has a time frame of 14 and I know for a fact that I did the journal flip stage correctly. The seed I'm looking for, has a time frame of 15. My save frame (which is 7, im 100% sure of that do not try to convince me otherwise. I verified 4x) is 7. 15-7 = 8 / 2 = 4. I'm 100% sure I've flipped back and forth (both pages I flipped between had caught pokemon) until I hitted 15 (from my save frame of 8 ofc) EVERY time I have soft resetted. So it doesn't make sense. Wouldn't my save frame (7) hitting a time frame of 14 be impossible anyway seeing how 14-7 = 7 / 2 = 3.5 and you can't flip your journal pages equivalent to that of a decimal number? It doesn't make sense.

Anyone know how to solve my problem? It just doesn't make any sense. Like I said earlier, I tried hitting my delay again (626) and I got the coin flip sequence correct, and my pokemon AGAIN had the IVs of the seed with the same delay and time as mine, but a time frame of 14. The exact same IVs from the first time around. I'm assuming once I get this problem fixed, RNG abusing for egg IVs will never be a problem ever again for me. My question is fairly simple anyway, I just added a bunch of details so I can avoid questions rather than answers ;)

[Expert Evan]

Originally Posted by Fat acetrainerzx

^ Can I use time finder? If yes, what method is it?

time finder? when it comes to wondercards, the nature is completely random so they're ignored and go by the wondercard method. I personally use Wichu's PokeRNG to find spreads which I believe VileTung had uploaded to his site when someone reported the link not working.

Getting back to bug catching, I'm guessing there's a different method similar to how the red gyarados uses the chained shiny method. The only ones in the contest really worth going after for sport ball purposes are: nincada, scyther & pinsir as the latter 2 can also be caught in DPPt as wild captures whereas nincada was a pokeradar pokemon in DPPt.

[Bakus]

nevada: It happens occasionally and is a reason why I suggested to make sure save frame is one number (means that you get 7, 7, 7, 7, 7 when you test it out) and no numbers in between. If this is the case, then I found that some years can be bad and mess up your save frame. Try changing your years and finding a different spread that correlates to your save frame (7). If this still shows that your saveframe is 6 and not 7...then change your saveframe. You don't have to try again ^_^

In the chance that you find your save frame jumping too much from 6 to 7 and vice versa...then I suggest you load up the game and save again. A decent indicator is when after you save, the cowgirls and pachirisu doesn't move for a good second. After doing this, find your save frame again and then once you confirm one number, soft reset for IVs. This is only after you changed dates a good 3times or more and still find that your save frame is jumping.

[nevada11]

Originally Posted by Fat Bakus

nevada: It happens occasionally and is a reason why I suggested to make sure save frame is one number (means that you get 7, 7, 7, 7, 7 when you test it out) and no numbers in between. If this is the case, then I found that some years can be bad and mess up your save frame. Try changing your years and finding a different spread that correlates to your save frame (7). If this still shows that your saveframe is 6 and not 7...then change your saveframe. You don't have to try again ^_^

In the chance that you find your save frame jumping too much from 6 to 7 and vice versa...then I suggest you load up the game and save again. A decent indicator is when after you save, the cowgirls and pachirisu doesn't move for a good second. After doing this, find your save frame again and then once you confirm one number, soft reset for IVs. This is only after you changed dates a good 3times or more and still find that your save frame is jumping.

Well fifth times the charm and I got a save frame of 6 when testing it out. I guess I'll have to change my saveframe and verify a lot more than 4 times (lol). I don't have an A.R so this process can get quite lengthy but I won't give up until I get my first RNG abused pokemon ^_^

Btw, seeing how my save frame jumps to 6 when I hit my delay (626), it is possible when I hit my delay again it can also jump to 7 and I finally hit my seed? Thanks for the help

[BarrelRoll]

There's something on my RNG Reporter that is really bothering me.

When I open up the program, I see the main page with my ID / SID numbers I'm currently using. When I open up the Time Finder and click on the Shiny Egg Tab, those numbers are still there. However, when I search for Shiny Egg results, my SID changes to a totally different number. Therefore, I cannot get any Shiny Pokemon in my game. Anybody know why this is happening?

[Bakus]

Nevada: Probably not. I haven't done it anymore to test it out, but if I hit my delay and get a different save frame...I most likely either change my save frame or pick a different date to work with.

I can only imagine how suckish it is to have to verify your save frame without an AR - I do hope you have a good amount of rare candies though!

EDIT: And don't worry, I think it gets alot easier after your first time - you just do it on instinct and might even find some shortcuts to get you to soft resetting faster ^^

[Joel]

Originally Posted by Fat BarrelRoll

There's something on my RNG Reporter that is really bothering me.

When I open up the program, I see the main page with my ID / SID numbers I'm currently using. When I open up the Time Finder and click on the Shiny Egg Tab, those numbers are still there. However, when I search for Shiny Egg results, my SID changes to a totally different number. Therefore, I cannot get any Shiny Pokemon in my game. Anybody know why this is happening?

I just started learning to RNG yesterday, so I don't know how to help you with your problem, but maybe you just helped me with mine. 0_0

I have tested, and have hit frames with my target Nature and Gender without the Shiny Egg box clicked ten consecutive times, however, I fail at the shiny eggs every single time. Maybe my SID is changing on mine, as well?

*goes to investigate*

[Bakus]

I think not, as BarrelRoll and you are doing two different things to get the shiny egg it would seem. You're using RNG reporter main window whereas BarrelRoll is using time finder window Shiny Egg Tab.

If you want to test this Skippy (and don't mind losing a bit of time) don't have a nature or ability set. Just check the shiny egg box and click generate. The first result would be the least number of taps required, albeit sucky nature, and try that. If the egg hatches shiny, then you know it's your tapping. If not...then it's another problem that needs to be further investigated.

[Aerrow]

Some help?

For the past two hours, I've been trying to get a Calm, Almost Flawless Articuno; I've hit my delay exactly two times and apparently, I've messed up the exact same way on both attempts. I need to hit a frame of 23; so I did 22 Elm Calls and since Articuno's monster frame is 1, I should be at Frame 23 now; so I battled Articuno and captured it but on both attempts, I got an Adamant Nature. Anyone know whats happening?

[BarrelRoll]

This is really starting to bug me, now.

When I open up RNG Reporter, my ID is 43796 and my SID is 89710. These numbers are correct. I open up the Time Finder and click on the Shiny Egg Tab. When I generate results, my ID stays the same. However, my SID changes to 65535. I'm not changing anything, so I have no idea why it's doing that.

To double check this, I opened up the Capture Tab in the Time Finder since it also involves SID. I clicked the Shiny Only box and generated results. This time, however, the SID (89710) stays the same.

Why would the SID change in the Shiny Egg Tab?

[Joel]

Originally Posted by Fat Bakus

I think not, as BarrelRoll and you are doing two different things to get the shiny egg it would seem. You're using RNG reporter main window whereas BarrelRoll is using time finder window Shiny Egg Tab.

If you want to test this Skippy (and don't mind losing a bit of time) don't have a nature or ability set. Just check the shiny egg box and click generate. The first result would be the least number of taps required, albeit sucky nature, and try that. If the egg hatches shiny, then you know it's your tapping. If not...then it's another problem that needs to be further investigated.

I did it that way...And it even hatches with the nature/gender it says it's suppossed to, but still...No shiny.

I have the reporter set as follows...

Method: DPPlt Egg PID (Normal)
ID: 12156 SID: 61700 Shiny Only Checked On

...everything else is set as it's default settings. I then click Seed Finder, and put in the date and time of the game starting (yes, I synched up), and the nature/IVs of the first wild capture I found. I usually get a number around 600. Sometimes I get second number, but I was told to use the near 600 number, so I just ignore the other numer when it appears. I click OK, and then when back in the main window, I click Generate, and nothing else. I use whatever the first starting frame number is, and then do my taps.

This gets me the correct nature and gender it says I'm suppossed to every time, but no shiny still. :/

The only thing left I can maybe think of is that I have a fast hatch code on with my AR. Will that effect it?

[COKTAL]

Originally Posted by Fat Altros74

Some help?

For the past two hours, I've been trying to get a Calm, Almost Flawless Articuno; I've hit my delay exactly two times and apparently, I've messed up the exact same way on both attempts. I need to hit a frame of 23; so I did 22 Elm Calls and since Articuno's monster frame is 1, I should be at Frame 23 now; so I battled Articuno and captured it but on both attempts, I got an Adamant Nature. Anyone know whats happening?

Do you have any roamers out? Also, what frame are you hitting? If you don't have enough rare candies to get an idea, atleast look for a nearby adamant spread. I've had random +2 advances before in HG, so you may be getting this too for some reason. I suggest using the elm calls to see where you are at frame wise. To know if you're on the right frame, you have to see if the elm call matches for the frame before it (so if you match frame 15-22 calls and are on your seed, then the articuno you battle should be frame 23).

Originally Posted by Fat BarrelRoll

This is really starting to bug me, now.

When I open up RNG Reporter, my ID is 43796 and my SID is 89710. These numbers are correct. I open up the Time Finder and click on the Shiny Egg Tab. When I generate results, my ID stays the same. However, my SID changes to 65535. I'm not changing anything, so I have no idea why it's doing that.

To double check this, I opened up the Capture Tab in the Time Finder since it also involves SID. I clicked the Shiny Only box and generated results. This time, however, the SID (89710) stays the same.

Why would the SID change in the Shiny Egg Tab?

Iirc, you can't have an ID or SID that is greater than 65535, so you may want to double check to see if that is your SID.

Originally Posted by Fat Skippy the Great

I did it that way...And it even hatches with the nature/gender it says it's suppossed to, but still...No shiny.

I have the reporter set as follows...

Method: DPPlt Egg PID (Normal)
ID: 12156 SID: 61700 Shiny Only Checked On

...everything else is set as it's default settings. I then click Seed Finder, and put in the date and time of the game starting (yes, I synched up), and the nature/IVs of the first wild capture I found. I usually get a number around 600. Sometimes I get second number, but I was told to use the near 600 number, so I just ignore the other numer when it appears. I click OK, and then when back in the main window, I click Generate, and nothing else. I use whatever the first starting frame number is, and then do my taps.

This gets me the correct nature and gender it says I'm suppossed to every time, but no shiny still. :/

The only thing left I can maybe think of is that I have a fast hatch code on with my AR. Will that effect it?

It shouldn't effect it. If you're getting the nature/ability/gender right, but not shiny (assuming that you're going for a shiny egg, and the only thing wrong is the shiny part), then your ID/SID isn't correctly typed into RNG Reporter. Just double check and make sure that you input them correctly (I've had the same problem, only to realize I mis-typed in my SID).

[BarrelRoll]

Originally Posted by Fat COKTAL

Iirc, you can't have an ID or SID that is greater than 65535, so you may want to double check to see if that is your SID.

I double and triple checked and my SID is 89710. But that's very interesting, though...

[Joel]

Originally Posted by Fat COKTAL

It shouldn't effect it. If you're getting the nature/ability/gender right, but not shiny (assuming that you're going for a shiny egg, and the only thing wrong is the shiny part), then your ID/SID isn't correctly typed into RNG Reporter. Just double check and make sure that you input them correctly (I've had the same problem, only to realize I mis-typed in my SID).

Yes, I did typo my SID. It's actually 63700. I have been SRing for a low frame number, and after 15 SR's, my lowest frame number so far is 10,910 (908 Happines Double Taps + 1 Coin Flip). >_<