Most Generation PRNG Help / Information - Page 993

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 12:00:04 PM

i have a question, what exactly is delay and is there a way to manipulate it? and in HG im getting like 47+ seconds and i dont think thats right... but my delay is like 500????

EDIT: and my pikatimer doesnt have an option for DPPt or HGSS

EDIT: ok i have my seed (d2140289) and my PID (7942EF72) and my frame is 71 and my actual is 114 what next?

Phallylapper · Aug 6th, 2010, 12:13:21 PM

I'm really confused about HGSS egg RNG. So do any of the parents have to hold an everstone? And what is this about starting on frame? And also about having to get more than one egg? I'm really confused...

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 12:54:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Phallylapper

I'm really confused about HGSS egg RNG. So do any of the parents have to hold an everstone? And what is this about starting on frame? And also about having to get more than one egg? I'm really confused...

Neither of the parents need an Everstone, there will be frames when you pick it up, if say it's frame three you reject the first two and the third one you get will be your shiny

acid_paradox · Aug 6th, 2010, 12:59:33 PM

It's been a while since I've done a breed...
If my target spread for IV's is on frame 6 for example, do I advance to frame 5 and talk to the daycare man, or just go straight to frame 6?

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 12:59:52 PM

Well thanks to my cousin, I now have the Suicune caught and saved(Not the one I wanted).

So do you think I should just start the game over or should I just try a different project?

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat acid_paradox

It's been a while since I've done a breed...
If my target spread for IV's is on frame 6 for example, do I advance to frame 5 and talk to the daycare man, or just go straight to frame 6?

Advance to 5, then talk to him,

acid_paradox · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat graymonkey0

Advance to 5, then talk to him,

Thank you

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:13:24 PM

On the RNG Reporter, next to the spread i want it says under elm respnse P and i know what that means but i got it first try but the next one didnt match up (elm responses on the bottom) does that mean i did it right so just advance to frame 70 and then fight latios cause its frame 71, or should the elm responses on the bottom match up?

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:15:29 PM

For now, I am gonna try for a new project(Hopefully I won't mess up again).

So for a beginner, who knows some stuff about RNGing, should I try Event Latias as my second project?(Technically first as Suicune was a failure.)

And should I try to go for a Shiny one or would that cause too much trouble for a newbie?

Also, does anyone know if that SID checker guy is on? I think his name is Giritinia something.

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:15:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Osostewie

On the RNG Reporter, next to the spread i want it says under elm respnse P and i know what that means but i got it first try but the next one didnt match up (elm responses on the bottom) does that mean i did it right so just advance to frame 70 and then fight latios cause its frame 71, or should the elm responses on the bottom match up?

Are you sure they didn't match up? Cause if they don't match you did something wrong

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:17:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat graymonkey0

Are you sure they didn't match up? Cause if they don't match you did something wrong

the rest of the elm responses, yes. so that just means i missed my target time right? and when the first pikatimer is up, i SR right? and the second one i when i push continue, right?

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:17:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shurokun

For now, I am gonna try for a new project(Hopefully I won't mess up again).

So for a beginner, who knows some stuff about RNGing, should I try Event Latias as my second project?(Technically first as Suicune was a failure.)

And should I try to go for a Shiny one or would that cause too much trouble for a newbie?

Also, does anyone know if that SID checker guy is on? I think his name is Giritinia something.

Latias was like my 4th RNG breed. It's not that hard at all. You just need to make sure the NPC's don't move. If you get your SID you need to check in JavaRNG if you have any good spreads available on your game for a shiny, as catching shiny pokemon relies on your ID/SID

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:19:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Osostewie

the rest of the elm responses, yes. so that just means i missed my target time right? and when the first pikatimer is up, i SR right? and the second one i when i push continue, right?

Was it the first call that you missed? If they lined up after that you would be fine, as the first frame was skipped due to NPC movement

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:21:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat graymonkey0

Was it the first call that you missed? If they lined up after that you would be fine, as the first frame was skipped due to NPC movement

NOOB QUESTION: what is an NPC lol. and no i got the first one but the second one was incorrect

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:24:27 PM

So do you think I should try another project, instead of Latias, due to moving NPCs or would it not be too much of a problem for a newbie?

Actually, I think I will go for a Non shiny, Latias. I don't like its Shiny Color.

Anywho, so if I go for a plain one, I can just use RNGReporter?

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:33:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Osostewie

NOOB QUESTION: what is an NPC lol. and no i got the first one but the second one was incorrect

Then it's wrong, you need all 12 calls to match up

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shurokun

So do you think I should try another project, instead of Latias, due to moving NPCs or would it not be too much of a problem for a newbie?

Actually, I think I will go for a Non shiny, Latias. I don't like its Shiny Color.

Anywho, so if I go for a plain one, I can just use RNGReporter?

Use Java RNG, I would suggest watching one of Bearsfan's videos posted on the first page of this help guide

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:35:26 PM

So which is better? JavaRNG or RNGReporter?

I was taught a little by Coktal, who uses RNGReporter.

Edit:

Oh and a NPC stands for Non Playing Character. Basically NPCs are everything that isn't you, but involves in the game, Ie the Stationary Pokemon, the Humans, etc.)

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:38:17 PM

So i start my pikatimer the same time i push a to change the time right? like i dont synchronize them or anything? and thanks for all the help!

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:38:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shurokun

So which is better? JavaRNG or RNGReporter?

I was taught a little by Coktal, who uses RNGReporter.

Edit:

Oh and a NPC stands for Non Playing Character. Basically NPCs are everything that isn't you, but involves in the game, Ie the Stationary Pokemon, the Humans, etc.)

They both have their purposes, use JavaRNG to find the seed with the IV's you want, match it up with RNG Reporter's Seed finder, then use RNG Reporter the rest of the way

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Osostewie

So i start my pikatimer the same time i push a to change the time right? like i dont synchronize them or anything? and thanks for all the help!

Correct and if you are going for lati@s I believe the delays are where you need to actually put the DS clock one minute in front of your desired time. Pika Timer will show you that in like the middle column to the right

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:40:34 PM

Oh. Alright. Well just because I feel like seeing how the Shiny side works. I am going to make my Latias a shiny one. I just need to find someone to help find my SID.

Oso: If you are at the beginning of RNGing, where you are synching your clock with your DS(Aka when the seconds hit 00), then yeah you synch then.

When you find the time you want, you don't have to wait for the seconds to hit 00. You just press A and click the Start button on the Pikatimer at the same time.

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:48:43 PM

okay so your saying since my desired time is 20:56:14 i set my DS clock to 20:55 ( thats what i have been doing) and its on the right date and my delay is 639 but my calibrated delay (the one that i calibrated for right?) was 614. Does them not being both even or odd mean i change the year?

graymonkey0 · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:52:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Osostewie

okay so your saying since my desired time is 20:56:14 i set my DS clock to 20:55 ( thats what i have been doing) and its on the right date and my delay is 639 but my calibrated delay (the one that i calibrated for right?) was 614. Does them not being both even or odd mean i change the year?

Insert/Remove a 3rd gen game to hit even or odd delays

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 1:55:39 PM

Did it say 1 minute before target or 2?

If it says 2, you need to be 20:54, not 20:55.

Osostewie · Aug 6th, 2010, 2:14:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shurokun

Did it say 1 minute before target or 2?

If it says 2, you need to be 20:54, not 20:55.

it says 1

Shurokun · Aug 6th, 2010, 2:15:52 PM

Okay, then yes, you do 20:55.

Aug 6th, 2010, 12:00:04 PM	#24801
Osostewie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 306 I just post alot	i have a question, what exactly is delay and is there a way to manipulate it? and in HG im getting like 47+ seconds and i dont think thats right... but my delay is like 500???? EDIT: and my pikatimer doesnt have an option for DPPt or HGSS EDIT: ok i have my seed (d2140289) and my PID (7942EF72) and my frame is 71 and my actual is 114 what next? __________________ ~~Friend code(PLAT) is 2794 4541 2059~~ Friend code(HG) is 0131 6839 1430<----Everything Stewie's Trade Thread <---- Currently OPEN Don't be a bitch, don't use a Breloom! Last edited by Osostewie; Aug 6th, 2010 at 12:33:17 PM.

Aug 6th, 2010, 12:13:21 PM	#24802
Phallylapper Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 456	I'm really confused about HGSS egg RNG. So do any of the parents have to hold an everstone? And what is this about starting on frame? And also about having to get more than one egg? I'm really confused... __________________ Hey.. FC: 4041 0477 5220 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3464492

Aug 6th, 2010, 12:59:33 PM	#24804
acid_paradox Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 519 Toronto, Ontario	It's been a while since I've done a breed... If my target spread for IV's is on frame 6 for example, do I advance to frame 5 and talk to the daycare man, or just go straight to frame 6? __________________ Back to Battle. ● Battle FC: 1892 2413 1706 ● Watch my WiFi battles on Youtube I will accept legal hacks in battles.

Aug 6th, 2010, 12:59:52 PM	#24805
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	Well thanks to my cousin, I now have the Suicune caught and saved(Not the one I wanted). So do you think I should just start the game over or should I just try a different project? __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:13:24 PM	#24808
Osostewie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 306 I just post alot	On the RNG Reporter, next to the spread i want it says under elm respnse P and i know what that means but i got it first try but the next one didnt match up (elm responses on the bottom) does that mean i did it right so just advance to frame 70 and then fight latios cause its frame 71, or should the elm responses on the bottom match up? __________________ ~~Friend code(PLAT) is 2794 4541 2059~~ Friend code(HG) is 0131 6839 1430<----Everything Stewie's Trade Thread <---- Currently OPEN Don't be a bitch, don't use a Breloom!

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:15:29 PM	#24809
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	For now, I am gonna try for a new project(Hopefully I won't mess up again). So for a beginner, who knows some stuff about RNGing, should I try Event Latias as my second project?(Technically first as Suicune was a failure.) And should I try to go for a Shiny one or would that cause too much trouble for a newbie? Also, does anyone know if that SID checker guy is on? I think his name is Giritinia something. __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:24:27 PM	#24815
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	So do you think I should try another project, instead of Latias, due to moving NPCs or would it not be too much of a problem for a newbie? Actually, I think I will go for a Non shiny, Latias. I don't like its Shiny Color. Anywho, so if I go for a plain one, I can just use RNGReporter? __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:35:26 PM	#24817
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	So which is better? JavaRNG or RNGReporter? I was taught a little by Coktal, who uses RNGReporter. Edit: Oh and a NPC stands for Non Playing Character. Basically NPCs are everything that isn't you, but involves in the game, Ie the Stationary Pokemon, the Humans, etc.) __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:38:17 PM	#24818
Osostewie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 306 I just post alot	So i start my pikatimer the same time i push a to change the time right? like i dont synchronize them or anything? and thanks for all the help! __________________ ~~Friend code(PLAT) is 2794 4541 2059~~ Friend code(HG) is 0131 6839 1430<----Everything Stewie's Trade Thread <---- Currently OPEN Don't be a bitch, don't use a Breloom!

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:40:34 PM	#24820
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	Oh. Alright. Well just because I feel like seeing how the Shiny side works. I am going to make my Latias a shiny one. I just need to find someone to help find my SID. Oso: If you are at the beginning of RNGing, where you are synching your clock with your DS(Aka when the seconds hit 00), then yeah you synch then. When you find the time you want, you don't have to wait for the seconds to hit 00. You just press A and click the Start button on the Pikatimer at the same time. __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:48:43 PM	#24821
Osostewie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 306 I just post alot	okay so your saying since my desired time is 20:56:14 i set my DS clock to 20:55 ( thats what i have been doing) and its on the right date and my delay is 639 but my calibrated delay (the one that i calibrated for right?) was 614. Does them not being both even or odd mean i change the year? __________________ ~~Friend code(PLAT) is 2794 4541 2059~~ Friend code(HG) is 0131 6839 1430<----Everything Stewie's Trade Thread <---- Currently OPEN Don't be a bitch, don't use a Breloom!

Aug 6th, 2010, 1:55:39 PM	#24823
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	Did it say 1 minute before target or 2? If it says 2, you need to be 20:54, not 20:55. __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.

Aug 6th, 2010, 2:15:52 PM	#24825
Shurokun Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 247	Okay, then yes, you do 20:55. __________________ SS FC: 0904 6164 6326 Trade thread Warning for those who wish to battle. My internet flucuates at times, so if I disconnect, it isn't on purpose.