~Mexico Vs. Spain~

Spiritman · Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:04:07 AM

~Mexico Vs. Spain~

Preamble
The main reason for this team to be revamped, was thanks to the confrontation between the 7 best of Mexico & Spain.

The team I used as a base for this team was a paraflinch team. this one doesnt rely that much on flinching, but more on paralisis and counter attacking. By now it has been functioning pretty good, but it still needs some screws to be ajusted =)

Jirachi! @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Thunderpunch

Here thankz to the reccomendation d2m gave me. It helps me a lot with the gyarados that want to ruin my fun, and also gives him a better coverage.

- Iron Head

With the Choice Scarf it is too much fun to put it aside. as a lead it helps with some fast and fragile leads which try to setup rocks. they are hit, flinched and killed. It is still useful even after i have tricked my scarf.

- Trick

Trick is the' attack i've been using instead of paralisis, and it is awesome. i normally wait till the late game to use it and catch off guard some walls which dislike it.

- Stealth Rock

amm, i dont think this moves needs much description.

| Thunder | Body Slam |
I want to give Jirachi either Thunder or Body slam so it can also help the team providing paralisis. Which slot could be replaced?

Jirachi as a lead is pretty awesome, the Choice Scarf gives him a very special "boost". this poke works wonders throughout all the game, and is one of the last pokes that goes down. The only thing i've been thinking for him is if i should give him a paralisis attack.

Scizor! @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn

As i mentioned before, for scouting. and i love to use it paired with jirachi's U-turn

- Superpower

A very strong move that CB scizor should have. It dents many pokes. it isn't used like all the other moves, but when it is used it gets its job done

- Bullet Punch

The magic move on Scizor hehe. With Technician + STAB + CB+Priority it is a beast =)

- Quick Attack| Roost | Pursuit

Here is were i have a dilema. i began using Quick Attack because common switch ins for scizor are Electrics and Waters. Quick Attack has finished off for me some Zapdos & Electivires. it is also nicely paired with Lucario's Vaccum wave. having 3 different and powerful priority moves is pretty useful. EVEN THOUGH, there are many times when Scizor could & needs to use roost, even if it has to flee next turn.

Scizor is sort of my revenge killer, and at the same time, with paralisis support he is the one who puts in some big hits.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP/228 Def/32 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heat Wave

This new toy provided by platinum is very useful, and lets zapdos use Hp grass instead of ice with no regrets.

- Thunderbolt

STAB & power.

- Roost

Reliable recovery move =D

- Hidden Power [Grass]

I love Hp Grass on Zapdos, it is just marvelous. it makes Zapdos a good opponent to virtually anything he faces. Also, this is the only grass attack i have in the team.

Zapdos is so great, it is now one of my favorite Pokémon. It really doesn't need much words to describe it, it just works wonders.

Machamp! (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch

Confusion + paralisis = yes please. Even though, without paralisis Dyanmicpunch is a great move.

- Stone Edge

I realized just a week ago how useful was to use this move with the No Guard ability. It helps with Gyarados, fliers etc. The only pest is Gliscor.

- Sleep Talk

The perfect complement for Rest + Moves with little PP. It does not only lets me hit while sleeping, but it does not waste the low pp of Stone Edge & DinPunch.

- Rest

Restores Machamp Health, Status, and sometimes i use it when im running out of PP hehe.

No guard makes this poke a real Champ =). I had never used the Sleep Talk Machamp, and it tottally convinced me.
He is more of a stable Physical sweeper, rather than Scizor who does not stay in long.

Togekiss! (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/104 Def/152 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Air Slash

"The Move which makes togekiss uber"

- Roost

Recovery to continue with the paraflinching muahaha.

- Thunder Wave

The paralisis part of "paraflinch" - Also helps me with many sweepers

- Nasty Plot

I was thinking of Aura Sphere or flamethrower here, but Nasty plot is just too good to give it away. This move has won me a couple of games :D! paraflinch boosted = Uber xD.

Togekiss paired up with Zapdos is what basically let this team win. Even though this team goal is to massively spread paralisis, my only paralizer here is togekiss. And sometimes it has some hard time getting the job done, but mostly it does great.

Lucario! (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Inner Focus[
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aura Sphere

Swampert is 2HKO with it, thats more than enough for me xD.

- Shadow Ball

Aura Sphere + Shadow Ball hit everything Neutrally. And Shadow Ball catches off guard many switch ins thinking it is SD luke.

- Vacuum Wave

My Special Priority which also gets STAB. It has saved me a couple of times.

- Hidden Power [Ice]

I havent used it much because i normally prefer to use Aura Sphere, but it can catch many pokes off guard. If paralisis was spread as it should, this move could be used more often.

Lucario Specser stole a place in my heart a month ago when i was testing new toys. I loved him so much that i needed to use him someway. i first used him here as a filler, but it actually was very useful.

Overall
The Only hinder this team has is the lack of Special Support it has. Heatran, Magnezone, and Rotom have been a problem sometime. Mostly i can work it out combining Zapdos & Togekiss, but it is quite difficult.
For that i thought that Blissey could help much, since it covered that hinder, and with Hp Ground, Flamethrower & Thunder Wave it would be a really good add on to the team.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Naturoal Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power Ground
The Only problem is that i'm having a difficult time taking something out for her.

Well, Thank you beforehand.
and please PIMP my team =D!

***I'm using now Blissey over Lucario and it has been working out great

d2m · Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:35:17 AM

Pretty solid team, but I would recommend putting Thunderpunch over U-turn on Jirachi, as you really need a switch in to Gyarados ( he can come in on Luke, Scizor, or that Jirachi for an easy DD, outspeeds and OHKOs Zappy [and Togekiss] with Stone Edge). U-turn for Jirachi is somewhat outdated it seems, it doesn't do near as much damage as Scizor and his ability to use all the elemental punches seems to be fleshing out.

Also, why oh why does the mexican team not have Ludicolo? <_<

Spiritman · Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:46:01 AM

U have a point, actually, Gyarados was only handled by Machamp and Togekiss (paralizing it before it could do anything)
I'll give Thunderpunch to Jirachi :D.

PD: I promise the next team i make to represent mexico will have a ludicolo

Ppneitor · Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:49:00 PM

Your team looks pretty good, but i would tottaly prefer Blissey over Lucario.
Blissey is the answer to your bigger threats, and with HP ground as u suggested, covers other electrics aside from Magnezone.

Lucario is a good pokemon, and i know is fun to use. BUT, it only brings hinderances to the team, while Blissey gives u more support & sinergy. good luck.

Spiritman · Jun 3rd, 2009, 6:55:49 PM

Bump!

Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:04:07 AM	#1
Spiritman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 72 Cancun, Mexico.	~Mexico Vs. Spain~ ~Mexico Vs. Spain~ Preamble The main reason for this team to be revamped, was thanks to the confrontation between the 7 best of Mexico & Spain. The team I used as a base for this team was a paraflinch team. this one doesnt rely that much on flinching, but more on paralisis and counter attacking. By now it has been functioning pretty good, but it still needs some screws to be ajusted =) Jirachi! @ Choice Scarf Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spd Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Thunderpunch Here thankz to the reccomendation d2m gave me. It helps me a lot with the gyarados that want to ruin my fun, and also gives him a better coverage. - Iron Head With the Choice Scarf it is too much fun to put it aside. as a lead it helps with some fast and fragile leads which try to setup rocks. they are hit, flinched and killed. It is still useful even after i have tricked my scarf. - Trick Trick is the' attack i've been using instead of paralisis, and it is awesome. i normally wait till the late game to use it and catch off guard some walls which dislike it. - Stealth Rock amm, i dont think this moves needs much description. \| Thunder \| Body Slam \| I want to give Jirachi either Thunder or Body slam so it can also help the team providing paralisis. Which slot could be replaced? Jirachi as a lead is pretty awesome, the Choice Scarf gives him a very special "boost". this poke works wonders throughout all the game, and is one of the last pokes that goes down. The only thing i've been thinking for him is if i should give him a paralisis attack. Scizor! @ Choice Band Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - U-turn As i mentioned before, for scouting. and i love to use it paired with jirachi's U-turn - Superpower A very strong move that CB scizor should have. It dents many pokes. it isn't used like all the other moves, but when it is used it gets its job done - Bullet Punch The magic move on Scizor hehe. With Technician + STAB + CB+Priority it is a beast =) - Quick Attack\| Roost \| Pursuit Here is were i have a dilema. i began using Quick Attack because common switch ins for scizor are Electrics and Waters. Quick Attack has finished off for me some Zapdos & Electivires. it is also nicely paired with Lucario's Vaccum wave. having 3 different and powerful priority moves is pretty useful. EVEN THOUGH, there are many times when Scizor could & needs to use roost, even if it has to flee next turn. Scizor is sort of my revenge killer, and at the same time, with paralisis support he is the one who puts in some big hits. Zapdos @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure EVs: 248 HP/228 Def/32 Spd Bold nature (+Def, -Atk) - Heat Wave This new toy provided by platinum is very useful, and lets zapdos use Hp grass instead of ice with no regrets. - Thunderbolt STAB & power. - Roost Reliable recovery move =D - Hidden Power [Grass] I love Hp Grass on Zapdos, it is just marvelous. it makes Zapdos a good opponent to virtually anything he faces. Also, this is the only grass attack i have in the team. Zapdos is so great, it is now one of my favorite Pokémon. It really doesn't need much words to describe it, it just works wonders. Machamp! (M) @ Leftovers Ability: No Guard EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dynamicpunch Confusion + paralisis = yes please. Even though, without paralisis Dyanmicpunch is a great move. - Stone Edge I realized just a week ago how useful was to use this move with the No Guard ability. It helps with Gyarados, fliers etc. The only pest is Gliscor. - Sleep Talk The perfect complement for Rest + Moves with little PP. It does not only lets me hit while sleeping, but it does not waste the low pp of Stone Edge & DinPunch. - Rest Restores Machamp Health, Status, and sometimes i use it when im running out of PP hehe. No guard makes this poke a real Champ =). I had never used the Sleep Talk Machamp, and it tottally convinced me. He is more of a stable Physical sweeper, rather than Scizor who does not stay in long. Togekiss! (F) @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP/104 Def/152 SDef Bold nature (+Def, -Atk) - Air Slash "The Move which makes togekiss uber" - Roost Recovery to continue with the paraflinching muahaha. - Thunder Wave The paralisis part of "paraflinch" - Also helps me with many sweepers - Nasty Plot I was thinking of Aura Sphere or flamethrower here, but Nasty plot is just too good to give it away. This move has won me a couple of games :D! paraflinch boosted = Uber xD. Togekiss paired up with Zapdos is what basically let this team win. Even though this team goal is to massively spread paralisis, my only paralizer here is togekiss. And sometimes it has some hard time getting the job done, but mostly it does great. Lucario! (M) @ Choice Specs Ability: Inner Focus[ EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Aura Sphere Swampert is 2HKO with it, thats more than enough for me xD. - Shadow Ball Aura Sphere + Shadow Ball hit everything Neutrally. And Shadow Ball catches off guard many switch ins thinking it is SD luke. - Vacuum Wave My Special Priority which also gets STAB. It has saved me a couple of times. - Hidden Power [Ice] I havent used it much because i normally prefer to use Aura Sphere, but it can catch many pokes off guard. If paralisis was spread as it should, this move could be used more often. Lucario Specser stole a place in my heart a month ago when i was testing new toys. I loved him so much that i needed to use him someway. i first used him here as a filler, but it actually was very useful. Overall The Only hinder this team has is the lack of Special Support it has. Heatran, Magnezone, and Rotom have been a problem sometime. Mostly i can work it out combining Zapdos & Togekiss, but it is quite difficult. For that i thought that Blissey could help much, since it covered that hinder, and with Hp Ground, Flamethrower & Thunder Wave it would be a really good add on to the team. Blissey @ Leftovers Ability: Naturoal Cure EVs: 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk) - Thunder Wave - Softboiled - Flamethrower - Hidden Power Ground The Only problem is that i'm having a difficult time taking something out for her. Well, Thank you beforehand. and please PIMP my team =D! **I'm using now Blissey over Lucario and it has been working out great __________________ With Your Spirit You Can Move Mountains! =D! Last edited by Spiritman; Jun 18th, 2009 at 2:30:29 AM.*

Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:46:01 AM	#3
Spiritman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 72 Cancun, Mexico.	U have a point, actually, Gyarados was only handled by Machamp and Togekiss (paralizing it before it could do anything) I'll give Thunderpunch to Jirachi :D. PD: I promise the next team i make to represent mexico will have a ludicolo __________________ With Your Spirit You Can Move Mountains! =D! Last edited by Spiritman; Jun 2nd, 2009 at 3:53:27 AM.

Jun 3rd, 2009, 6:55:49 PM	#5
Spiritman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 72 Cancun, Mexico.	Bump! __________________ With Your Spirit You Can Move Mountains! =D!

Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:35:17 AM	#2
d2m Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 753	Pretty solid team, but I would recommend putting Thunderpunch over U-turn on Jirachi, as you really need a switch in to Gyarados ( he can come in on Luke, Scizor, or that Jirachi for an easy DD, outspeeds and OHKOs Zappy [and Togekiss] with Stone Edge). U-turn for Jirachi is somewhat outdated it seems, it doesn't do near as much damage as Scizor and his ability to use all the elemental punches seems to be fleshing out. Also, why oh why does the mexican team not have Ludicolo? <_<

Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:49:00 PM	#4
Ppneitor Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	Your team looks pretty good, but i would tottaly prefer Blissey over Lucario. Blissey is the answer to your bigger threats, and with HP ground as u suggested, covers other electrics aside from Magnezone. Lucario is a good pokemon, and i know is fun to use. BUT, it only brings hinderances to the team, while Blissey gives u more support & sinergy. good luck.