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Maris · Oct 20th, 2009, 12:19:51 AM

Is the Little cup ladder on dougs CAP server expected to unban wynut and dratini anytime soon?

little gk · Oct 20th, 2009, 12:28:56 AM

yeah, just give doug some time

Heysup · Oct 20th, 2009, 1:21:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ussgordoncaptain

Is the Little cup ladder on dougs CAP server expected to unban wynut and dratini anytime soon?

Doug has been absolutely working his ass off for us, just be thankful for that!
He'll get around it eventually, so just play unrated or without them in the mean time.

Octobre · Oct 26th, 2009, 8:06:46 AM

Is DeepSeaScale banned??

supermarth64 · Oct 26th, 2009, 8:14:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ace Attorney

Is DeepSeaScale banned??

No it is not.

yayece · Oct 27th, 2009, 5:06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Seven Deadly Sins

On LCF, Eric proved that it was possible to get a full Attack and Special Defense (both requiring 252 EVs to max) spread on a Shuppet, which requires the least amount of EXP to level up, and thus any spread is possible. Granted, it may be difficult (needing to fight extremely low level stuff, using lots of EXP Share, catching Pokerus, using power items, etc), but it is absolutely possible to get 510 EVs on absolutely any Pokemon in LC. The Box Trick simply recalculates stats.

2 questions...
What is LCF?
Is any arbitrary 252/252 spread possible in ADV generation too? (I'm guessing no, since there are only a few low-level pokemon around to EV train on.)

Dubulous · Oct 27th, 2009, 5:12:51 PM

LCF is the Little Cup Forum that we used before Smogon officially recognized Little Cup as a metagame.

As for your second question, I don't think that anyone has looked into it at all. The lack of Power items in ADV really hurts, though, so it might not be possible for some Pokemon. For most, however, it should be possible.

Vapor Trails · Oct 28th, 2009, 8:50:10 PM

I have a number of questions.
1) Is Eevee with Adaptability legal on here?
2) If so, is Strength allowed on it?

askaninjask · Oct 28th, 2009, 9:03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat txrdriftking

I have a number of questions.
1) Is Eevee with Adaptability legal on here?
2) If so, is Strength allowed on it?

Yes, they are both allowed. However, Return as a move outclasses Strength, as they have the same accuracy, but Return has a higher Base Power.

Eevee, even with STAB and Adaptability, has trouble getting the OHKOs and 2HKOs that it really needs to be effective, so it isn't quite as fantastic as it seems on paper.

tiomasta · Oct 29th, 2009, 5:19:38 PM

Is Phione allowed?

mohaji · Oct 29th, 2009, 5:22:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat tiomasta

Is Phione allowed?

No because Phione couldn't evolved after hatching from an egg, so imo it isn't allowed in Little Cup.

Heysup · Oct 29th, 2009, 6:48:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mohaji

No because Phione couldn't evolved after hatching from an egg, so imo it isn't allowed in Little Cup.

It isn't your opinion ^_^, it is in the rules that Phione isn't allowed.

mtr · Nov 1st, 2009, 12:54:03 AM

What good methods of checking Misdreavus can I employ on my team besides Stunky (hard counter) and Mankey (check)? Is they best way to beat it to concentrate on blocking its setup?

Matthew · Nov 1st, 2009, 1:11:50 AM

Personally I find Houndour probably the best Misdreavus check there is. Scarf Dour can outspeed it and OHKO with Dark Pulse, while MixDour can easily OHKO with Sucker Punch on the Hidden Power Fighting. Not to mention that Dour can come in on Shadow Balls which can be lured by Gligar and other Ghost-types rather easily. I find that the Sub WoW set is the hardest to counter as really Stunky needs to predict when to sucker punch or you're out a pokemon. Misdreavus is really hard to have a specific "counter" so I say Scarf Houndour just as a general check.

mtr · Nov 1st, 2009, 12:51:42 PM

Thanks. This next question was posed to me by the user Anachronism, and I had no response for him, so I decided to post it here.

Is there any analogue for Azelf in Little Cup? By 'Azelf', I mean 'very fast, offensively oriented Stealth Rock user'.

Wombat Sky Forme · Nov 1st, 2009, 5:02:31 PM

Hey, I'm new to LC, so this might be a stupid question.

I was battling in LC, and my Staryu used Recover. My opponent said Recover was banned. Is this true, and if so, is there a list of all banned moves besides SonicBoom and Dragon Rage?

askaninjask · Nov 1st, 2009, 5:27:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mtr12

Thanks. This next question was posed to me by the user Anachronism, and I had no response for him, so I decided to post it here.

Is there any analogue for Azelf in Little Cup? By 'Azelf', I mean 'very fast, offensively oriented Stealth Rock user'.

Well, the most Azelf-ian lead in LC is probably Diglett, who hits 20 speed, outspeeding basically everything, can set up SR, hits hard, and is pretty good late-game.

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Originally Posted by Fat Wombat Sky Forme

I was battling in LC, and my Staryu used Recover. My opponent said Recover was banned. Is this true, and if so, is there a list of all banned moves besides SonicBoom and Dragon Rage?

Well, because Staryu is genderless, it can only breed with Ditto, so it cannot legally have any level-up moves that it gets after level 5, since no two parents can legally learn it. So, to answer your question, Recover is not banned, it is just banned on Staryu, since Staryu cannot get Recover at level 5.

There is also a list of moves and move combinations which are banned on certain pokemon here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/The_Little_...50147&t=728496

bugmaniacbob · Nov 2nd, 2009, 2:12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mtr

Thanks. This next question was posed to me by the user Anachronism, and I had no response for him, so I decided to post it here.
Is there any analogue for Azelf in Little Cup? By 'Azelf', I mean 'very fast, offensively oriented Stealth Rock user'.

Offensive Gligar is the fastest unboosted Stealth Rock user, but I can't honestly think of it as being that similar to Azelf - it's far too bulky.

Personally I would say that Anorith was the closest counterpart to Azelf/Aerodactyl in Little Cup, but others may have a different opinion on this matter.

Heysup · Nov 2nd, 2009, 3:30:13 PM

If you want "SR/Explosion", Onix is what you want, it's pretty fast with 17 Spe. If you want like an offensive Stealth Rock user, I'd use Kabuto or Diglett.

**Seven Deadly Sins** · Nov 2nd, 2009, 6:25:52 PM

Anorith is also acceptable- 95 Attack and 75 Speed with great offensive dual STAB is pretty top-notch, and it can Rapid Spin if you want.

BIM: · Nov 10th, 2009, 4:23:19 PM

Does anyone play LC on wifi or just the shoddy servers?

eric the espeon · Nov 10th, 2009, 4:27:16 PM

There are a couple of trade threads in wi fi with some LC Pokemon available, and I have seen some battles on youtube, but don't know of anyone with a team ready to play.

**Seven Deadly Sins** · Nov 11th, 2009, 12:01:52 AM

LC Pokemon are a huge, huge pain in the ass to breed sometimes, and even worse to EV for, so it's rare to see LC played or bred/traded for. However, it's extremely simple to make teams for and play LC on Shoddy, so that's where it happens for the most part.

**Ditto** · Nov 13th, 2009, 2:37:18 AM

How can Wynaut get Counter, Mirror Coat, Safeguard, or Destiny Bond at level 5? I thought you had to level it up to 15 to get the moves.

Lord Jesseus · Nov 13th, 2009, 5:43:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ditto

How can Wynaut get Counter, Mirror Coat, Safeguard, or Destiny Bond at level 5? I thought you had to level it up to 15 to get the moves.

If you breed with a male Wobbuffet which has those moves, then the baby will have them too I'm pretty sure.

Oct 20th, 2009, 12:28:56 AM	#52
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Oct 27th, 2009, 5:12:51 PM	#57
Dubulous raidical Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,109 Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.	LCF is the Little Cup Forum that we used before Smogon officially recognized Little Cup as a metagame. As for your second question, I don't think that anyone has looked into it at all. The lack of Power items in ADV really hurts, though, so it might not be possible for some Pokemon. For most, however, it should be possible. __________________ And today will be better than yesterday.

Oct 28th, 2009, 8:50:10 PM	#58
Vapor Trails Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 194 カイドウ戦闘	I have a number of questions. 1) Is Eevee with Adaptability legal on here? 2) If so, is Strength allowed on it? __________________ Do not PM me if you need your teams rated until I can catch up with all of the new stuff that is going on. That is all for now.

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mtr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754	What good methods of checking Misdreavus can I employ on my team besides Stunky (hard counter) and Mankey (check)? Is they best way to beat it to concentrate on blocking its setup? __________________ Huehuehue

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Matthew I love weather; Sun for days Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,581 Where the Sun finally sets	Personally I find Houndour probably the best Misdreavus check there is. Scarf Dour can outspeed it and OHKO with Dark Pulse, while MixDour can easily OHKO with Sucker Punch on the Hidden Power Fighting. Not to mention that Dour can come in on Shadow Balls which can be lured by Gligar and other Ghost-types rather easily. I find that the Sub WoW set is the hardest to counter as really Stunky needs to predict when to sucker punch or you're out a pokemon. Misdreavus is really hard to have a specific "counter" so I say Scarf Houndour just as a general check. __________________ ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ What bitgamer tehconnection popcorn last.fm

Oct 20th, 2009, 12:19:51 AM	#51
Maris Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 149	Is the Little cup ladder on dougs CAP server expected to unban wynut and dratini anytime soon?

Oct 26th, 2009, 8:06:46 AM	#54
Octobre Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 Nasa bahay ko	Is DeepSeaScale banned??

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tiomasta Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Brazil	Is Phione allowed?

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mtr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754	Thanks. This next question was posed to me by the user Anachronism, and I had no response for him, so I decided to post it here. Is there any analogue for Azelf in Little Cup? By 'Azelf', I mean 'very fast, offensively oriented Stealth Rock user'. __________________ Huehuehue

Nov 2nd, 2009, 3:30:13 PM	#69
Heysup GO JETS GO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,090 CanaJew	If you want "SR/Explosion", Onix is what you want, it's pretty fast with 17 Spe. If you want like an offensive Stealth Rock user, I'd use Kabuto or Diglett. __________________ f u, v

Nov 2nd, 2009, 6:25:52 PM	#70
Seven Deadly Sins :D Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,177	Anorith is also acceptable- 95 Attack and 75 Speed with great offensive dual STAB is pretty top-notch, and it can Rapid Spin if you want. __________________

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Nov 10th, 2009, 4:27:16 PM	#72
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	There are a couple of trade threads in wi fi with some LC Pokemon available, and I have seen some battles on youtube, but don't know of anyone with a team ready to play. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Nov 11th, 2009, 12:01:52 AM	#73
Seven Deadly Sins :D Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,177	LC Pokemon are a huge, huge pain in the ass to breed sometimes, and even worse to EV for, so it's rare to see LC played or bred/traded for. However, it's extremely simple to make teams for and play LC on Shoddy, so that's where it happens for the most part. __________________

Nov 13th, 2009, 2:37:18 AM	#74
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