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DarthVader317 · Nov 18th, 2009, 8:21:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat 1 w1nged angel

Why doesn't the ladder on the server work with CAP pokemon?

Right now the most recent CAP Colossoil is being playtested. That means none of the previous CAPs can be used, but when the playtesting period ends they'll be allowed again.

Chou Toshio · Nov 20th, 2009, 9:50:39 AM

Was just peeking in on CAP's newest (very cool) creation, but can't help it-- would it be unreasonable to tsukkomi (but-in) on the point about a 1500lbs giant diglet using 宙返り (とんぼがえり、U-Turn)?

宙 = Air
宙返り = Mid-air Somersault

Very disturbing image. :P

Well, let's just say this thing is built for American Adults to play with, and not built for a Japanese Children's Video Game. xD

armogohma · Nov 20th, 2009, 11:48:35 AM

If you take a look at KnightoftheWind's avatar, it doesn't seem so weird.

Besides, flavor has never been too important in movepools anyway

bluebolt · Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:09:35 PM

So, you really only work on OU here? Are you ever going to start on UU or NU?

(I personally find OU battles very dull and repetetive)

Umbreon Dan · Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:12:34 PM

CAP only experiments with the OU metagame, yes.

if you don't like the standard OU metagame, you should try CAP! it's surprisingly different.

bluebolt · Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:15:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Umbreon Dan

CAP only experiments with the OU metagame, yes.

if you don't like the standard OU metagame, you should try CAP! it's surprisingly different.

So uh, it's like a un-standard OU metagame?

Plus · Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:21:45 PM

It's OU + CAPs. Currently we are doing playtesting, which tests the effects of one cap on the whole ou metagame. After playtesting, we do OU + all the CAPs, so that would make OU + 9 new pokemon. Yes, they are in OU, and it has its differences from standard. You could say it is un-standard, but it's not like OU got flipped upside down. At the CAP server, there is also Little Cup and NU ladders to try out, if you are bored with regular OU, however.

EDIT: Bluebolt if you have this many questions perhaps you should look at our website at http://smogon.com/cap/ @_@

GOTO2435 · Nov 29th, 2009, 5:01:11 PM

hey i read Doug´s interview in the smog some time ago and i realized he said that the original idea of CAP was to create pokemon and then send them to nintendo to check if they would include them.
My question is, is that still one of CAP´s objectives? since it would be just awsome to see scylant, colossoli, etc on the 5th gen (if there is one) and it makes sense since nintendo only has to include the pokemon on their games becouse we have created everything else :D

hydrolphin · Nov 29th, 2009, 5:19:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GOTO2435

hey i read Doug´s interview in the smog some time ago and i realized he said that the original idea of CAP was to create pokemon and then send them to nintendo to check if they would include them.
My question is, is that still one of CAP´s objectives? since it would be just awsome to see scylant, colossoli, etc on the 5th gen (if there is one) and it makes sense since nintendo only has to include the pokemon on their games becouse we have created everything else :D

I'll just use a quote from that same interview to answer you, "I always thought it was ridiculous to think that Nintendo would take a fan creation and incorporate it into their billion-dollar worldwide Pokémon franchise."

To Nintendo, our CAPs are just fakemons made by a bunch of kids.

GOTO2435 · Nov 29th, 2009, 9:34:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hydrolphin

I'll just use a quote from that same interview to answer you, "I always thought it was ridiculous to think that Nintendo would take a fan creation and incorporate it into their billion-dollar worldwide Pokémon franchise."

To Nintendo, our CAPs are just fakemons made by a bunch of kids.

Yeah but there is a diference from fakemons created by kids and CAP´s maily since what we do is create a pokemon that affects the metagame in a way that doesn´t make it broken and then test it by adding it to the actual metagame we have. Also i considered that to be Doug´s opinion but perhaps somebody still wanted to send the CAP´s to nintendo. I think it is not likely to become real but trying won´t harm anyone

Plus · Nov 29th, 2009, 9:53:21 PM

Simply put, no its not one of cap's objectives lol

Wichu · Nov 30th, 2009, 12:11:02 PM

I really doubt that it was one of Doug's objectives in the first place. But then, Doug wasn't running CAP when it started up...

Nintendo has said that they're not allowed to accept fan ideas due to legal reasons. This includes new Pokémon. You can e-mail them yourself if you don't believe me.

wickdaggler · Dec 1st, 2009, 8:39:55 PM

tl:dr CAP Mafia?

Would we be allowed to start up a CAP mafia game, featureing pokemon from CAP? Seeing as this fourm is focused on competitive aspects ect. This would probably be dejected. But, I personally think that this would be great for covering downtime between creations (after playtesting, before next project).

Umbreon Dan · Dec 1st, 2009, 8:43:11 PM

you can't do it here, but go ahead and pitch the idea to the mods of circus maximus!

ultimifier · Dec 17th, 2009, 6:08:02 PM

how do i download the sprites

Thanks Ten

tennisace · Dec 17th, 2009, 6:26:45 PM

this should give you all the info you need: http://www.smogon.com/cap/server/connection_guide

Chileno4Live · Dec 19th, 2009, 7:06:05 AM

I was wondering how to download and get the new pokemon. But thanks to the person above, that's fixed. Thanks :).

MrBlack · Dec 19th, 2009, 9:31:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat GOTO2435

Yeah but there is a diference from fakemons created by kids and CAP´s maily since what we do is create a pokemon that affects the metagame in a way that doesn´t make it broken and then test it by adding it to the actual metagame we have. Also i considered that to be Doug´s opinion but perhaps somebody still wanted to send the CAP´s to nintendo. I think it is not likely to become real but trying won´t harm anyone

I'm fairly sure Nintendo don't give a flying fuck about "metagame" or "OU" or even "broken". And they probably get plenty of E-mails every day from kids saying "HAI I HAV THIS AEWSUM IDEA FOR NEW POKEMANZ" and long ago decided to ignore anything related.

Besides, they're a large company. Their ego would never allow them to believe anyone could make something better than them. I highly doubt they even pay any attention to Smogon, maybe they don't even know what it is. Smogon, Marriland and Serebii combined probably contains only a very, very small percentage of their market.

Class · Dec 28th, 2009, 1:50:53 AM

I apologize if this is already answered in another topic. Is there a predicted date on when the CAP revisions will go online? Will they all be done at the same time or separately? Thanks.

mushtool · Dec 29th, 2009, 7:09:18 AM

Is it better to base a concept on already existing aspects?

Coronis · Dec 29th, 2009, 8:57:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mushtool

Is it better to base a concept on already existing aspects?

no, why would people vote for something that has already been done?

Also, the purpose of CAP is to explore the metagame by having something new and different inserted into it. We can't do this with something that already exists.

mushtool · Dec 29th, 2009, 5:22:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Coronis

no, why would people vote for something that has already been done?

Also, the purpose of CAP is to explore the metagame by having something new and different inserted into it. We can't do this with something that already exists.

no, by this i meant something that already exists, but isn't successful in OU, such as abilities like compoundeyes

tennisace · Dec 29th, 2009, 6:10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Class

I apologize if this is already answered in another topic. Is there a predicted date on when the CAP revisions will go online? Will they all be done at the same time or separately? Thanks.

Eventually, at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Fat mushtool

no, by this i meant something that already exists, but isn't successful in OU, such as abilities like compoundeyes

Yes as long as it follows all the rules for concepts.

Coronis · Dec 29th, 2009, 6:44:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mushtool

no, by this i meant something that already exists, but isn't successful in OU, such as abilities like compoundeyes

Ah ok, that is a pretty good idea, and has alreAdy been done once with Cyclohm, looking at that process might help you.

Headache · Jan 8th, 2010, 4:43:36 AM

How many more (if any) CAP's are going to be revised in the current set of revisions?

Nov 20th, 2009, 9:50:39 AM	#77
Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,029 Sea Forest	Was just peeking in on CAP's newest (very cool) creation, but can't help it-- would it be unreasonable to tsukkomi (but-in) on the point about a 1500lbs giant diglet using 宙返り (とんぼがえり、U-Turn)? 宙 = Air 宙返り = Mid-air Somersault Very disturbing image. :P Well, let's just say this thing is built for American Adults to play with, and not built for a Japanese Children's Video Game. xD __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."

Nov 20th, 2009, 11:48:35 AM	#78
armogohma Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 74 Long Time Lurker	If you take a look at KnightoftheWind's avatar, it doesn't seem so weird. Besides, flavor has never been too important in movepools anyway __________________ If a Shuckle were to have maximum boosted attack, have used Power Trick, be holding a Metronome, then use Defense Curl and Rollout against a pokemon that's doubly weak to rock and have had minimized defenses, and be hit with a critical hit, the damage could be up to 210 million!

Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:12:34 PM	#80
Umbreon Dan Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,188 kiss my ass, this is a holy site.	CAP only experiments with the OU metagame, yes. if you don't like the standard OU metagame, you should try CAP! it's surprisingly different. __________________ 9.9 dan likes to ramble <@Fatecrashers> im really gay <@Fatecrashers> and i might fart rainbows

Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:21:45 PM	#82
Plus EAT A DICK Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 956 New Jersey	It's OU + CAPs. Currently we are doing playtesting, which tests the effects of one cap on the whole ou metagame. After playtesting, we do OU + all the CAPs, so that would make OU + 9 new pokemon. Yes, they are in OU, and it has its differences from standard. You could say it is un-standard, but it's not like OU got flipped upside down. At the CAP server, there is also Little Cup and NU ladders to try out, if you are bored with regular OU, however. EDIT: Bluebolt if you have this many questions perhaps you should look at our website at http://smogon.com/cap/ @_@ __________________ Last edited by Plus; Nov 22nd, 2009 at 2:36:17 PM.

Nov 29th, 2009, 9:53:21 PM	#86
Plus EAT A DICK Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 956 New Jersey	Simply put, no its not one of cap's objectives lol __________________

Nov 22nd, 2009, 2:09:35 PM	#79
bluebolt Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	So, you really only work on OU here? Are you ever going to start on UU or NU? (I personally find OU battles very dull and repetetive)

Nov 30th, 2009, 12:11:02 PM	#87
Wichu ACUPRESSURE Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,508 Cambridge, England	I really doubt that it was one of Doug's objectives in the first place. But then, Doug wasn't running CAP when it started up... Nintendo has said that they're not allowed to accept fan ideas due to legal reasons. This includes new Pokémon. You can e-mail them yourself if you don't believe me. __________________

Dec 1st, 2009, 8:39:55 PM	#88
wickdaggler Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,437 dickwaggler	tl:dr CAP Mafia? Would we be allowed to start up a CAP mafia game, featureing pokemon from CAP? Seeing as this fourm is focused on competitive aspects ect. This would probably be dejected. But, I personally think that this would be great for covering downtime between creations (after playtesting, before next project).

Dec 1st, 2009, 8:43:11 PM	#89
Umbreon Dan Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,188 kiss my ass, this is a holy site.	you can't do it here, but go ahead and pitch the idea to the mods of circus maximus! __________________ 9.9 dan likes to ramble <@Fatecrashers> im really gay <@Fatecrashers> and i might fart rainbows

Dec 17th, 2009, 6:08:02 PM	#90
ultimifier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,095 toronto, canada	how do i download the sprites Thanks Ten Last edited by ultimifier; Dec 17th, 2009 at 6:35:45 PM.

Dec 17th, 2009, 6:26:45 PM	#91
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,346	this should give you all the info you need: http://www.smogon.com/cap/server/connection_guide __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

Dec 19th, 2009, 7:06:05 AM	#92
Chileno4Live Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 359 The Netherlands	I was wondering how to download and get the new pokemon. But thanks to the person above, that's fixed. Thanks :). __________________ 99% of players whine about bad luck like prepubescent school girls. If you're one of the other 1%, who take bad luck in stride, put this in your signature.

Dec 28th, 2009, 1:50:53 AM	#94
Class Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 530	I apologize if this is already answered in another topic. Is there a predicted date on when the CAP revisions will go online? Will they all be done at the same time or separately? Thanks. __________________ The Congregation lies.

Dec 29th, 2009, 7:09:18 AM	#95
mushtool Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 15	Is it better to base a concept on already existing aspects?

Jan 8th, 2010, 4:43:36 AM	#100
Headache Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 35	How many more (if any) CAP's are going to be revised in the current set of revisions?