Official Smogon YouTube Thread

*matty+* · Sep 20th, 2009, 3:33:08 PM

Welcome to the Official Smogon YouTube Thread

This is a project started off from a suggestion for battlers to view old Tournament battles that may have been missed and showcased fun, interesting battles. Support for the idea was fairly strong and so here we are now. For the time being, we are going to upload mostly well-known, showcase battles.

Here is the link to the actual YouTube Account

http://www.youtube.com/user/SmogonU

Anyway, here are the goals for the project:

*Competitive Tournament Matches: Mostly Semi-Finals and Final games would be fun to watch. However, I'm not opposed to uploading other tourney round games. These games will probably consist of well-known players in well known tournaments (Smogon Tour, Official Smogon Tournament, World Cup etc.). Gimmick tournaments will be by a case-by-case basis in my opinion. We'll cross that bridge when/if we ever get there.

*Commentaries / Commentators: Videos with audio from well known battlers in the community that warstory games and talk about whats happening, what both opponents are thinking. (It would be nice to get the players themselves to annonate or comment on the games themselves, but that is going to be near to impossible I realize) General strategies. etc. etc.

*Tutorials / Informational Videos: Not sure if this idea will ever get off the ground but I'd love to see some videos that teach players. It would be similar to how articles are written on the site teaching players certain ways to play or aspects of the metagame. How to build a Rain Dance Team, Sacrificing Pokemon at key moments in games, predicting. etc. etc. I just wanted to add that the time frame on this thing is gonna be further down the line if this thing is actually still going.

How to Format the YouTube Videos:
Before the Video is uploaded, there are a few fields that need to be filled in or edited after the video is officially up. Here is a step by step walk through of how the formatting should look.

Title
The title should be of the Tournament that was played (e.g. World Cup), the Round of that tournament (e.g. Finals), followed by a dash - and the players that played (e.g. Earthworm Vs Husk)

Description
The description should have the same information that was in the Title (name of the tournament and <player1> vs. <player2>) along with: a link to the Smogon Tournament thread (e.g. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61345, credits to the music used (e.g. Breaking Benjamin), credits to the uploader (optional) and credits to the editor (optional)

Tags
Tags should always have Smogon in them. Besides that, it is up to the uploader. Possible Tags can include: Shoddy Battle, Tournament, Pokemon etc.

Recorders w/ Permission to the Smogon Account:
-loedoc
-Locopoke
-Sheep
-PurpleWeezing
-Vacuum
-Minato.

This thread is here for discussion between recorders, upkeep of the account, distribution of the password etc. etc.

Please keep the thread as clean as possible and on point. If you have any else to suggest, feel free to post.

Thanks

Rook · Sep 20th, 2009, 3:35:52 PM

I think we should list the password holders so people can know who to send their videos to. And we also should add the email address to the OP.

Edit: Thanks matty.

Edit 2: Um, are we supposed to be subscribing to people on SmogonU? Because for some reason someone subscribed to bearsfan.

it lf · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:07:14 PM

Farmer made a reenactment of HECTOR vs MDragon. Want it?

Rook · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:13:39 PM

Yeah sure, that would probably be a good battle to put on. Email the file to Smogon@gmail.com. If that doesn't work, PM one of the password holders a download link.

Edit to Purple Weezing: If you want to, then sure. I'm not asking you to, that would be a big time commitment. But if you want to, we can wait for you.

locopoke · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:22:11 PM

Just a few things I think we need to sort out. I talked about them with matty on IRC but I felt I should post them here so everybody is on the same page.

What belongs in the title/credits? I really wasn't sure what to put here so i just put the players names and the tournament name (as well as which round). And in the video description, what belongs there? Link to the tournament page? Names of the battlers? Does the person who recorded the match get any special thanks or anything? Just a few things that we need to work out before we upload anything else.

Rook · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:27:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat locopoke

Just a few things I think we need to sort out. I talked about them with matty on IRC but I felt I should post them here so everybody is on the same page.

What belongs in the title/credits? I really wasn't sure what to put here so i just put the players names and the tournament name (as well as which round). And in the video description, what belongs there? Link to the tournament page? Names of the battlers? Does the person who recorded the match get any special thanks or anything? Just a few things that we need to work out before we upload anything else.

I think we should definitely post the round of the tournament. If it takes too long to get it up and the next round started, people will probably get confused. I don't see any real need for names as it's already on the battle screen, but it wouldn't hurt. I think we should put the person's name who recorded it. It's not very easy to be ready at any moment to record a match, so I think they should get special thanks for that.

mohaji · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:31:14 PM

I can record battles too. I'm often online on smogon server and watch the final battles of the tournaments.

locopoke · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:34:08 PM

For the descriptions of the videos I'm thinking the standard layout should be:

Tournament Name + Round
Link to the tournament thread
<player> vs. <player>
the songs that were used
special thanks to the person who recorded it and editted it

does that sound good?

*matty+* · Sep 20th, 2009, 4:37:28 PM

Ya I agree with that. OP editted to reflect that.

Discussion about the YouTube channel should take place in #stark for reference guys. We aren't allowed to make an splinter channel for the project. Sorry

~~Vacuum~~ · Sep 20th, 2009, 7:51:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat locopoke

For the descriptions of the videos I'm thinking the standard layout should be:

Tournament Name + Round
Link to the tournament thread
<player> vs. <player>
the songs that were used
special thanks to the person who recorded it and editted it

does that sound good?

this is great =D
On a side note, maybe there could be a way for people to know to contact a filmer before their match, so that way atleast one of us can get the footage of the match.

locopoke · Sep 20th, 2009, 7:54:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Vacuum

this is great =D
On a side note, maybe there could be a way for people to know to contact a filmer before their match, so that way atleast one of us can get the footage of the match.

I've already contacted all of the people who have upcoming matches in tournaments, so I'm ready to record. But just incase I'm not on, somebody look out for LoveDestiny vs. panamaxis (ultimate cup finals) and Twist of Fate vs. flashstorm1 (new grounds uu finals).

Minato. · Sep 21st, 2009, 8:12:40 AM

Could everyone who recorded a tourneymatch before me send the vid to smogonu@gmail.com ,so I can edit them and make them HQ?

locopoke · Sep 21st, 2009, 11:31:58 AM

I'll send you husk vs. ew and flashstorm1 vs. gouki. once im done editting panamaxis vs. VIL and LoveDestiny vs. IPL I'll send those too.

edit: for some reason when i try to attach the video to an email and send it, it freezes at 50%. im gonna upload them on rapidshare and PM you the links

Minato. · Sep 21st, 2009, 11:52:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat locopoke

I'll send you husk vs. ew and flashstorm1 vs. gouki. once im done editting panamaxis vs. VIL and LoveDestiny vs. IPL I'll send those too.

edit: for some reason when i try to attach the video to an email and send it, it freezes at 50%. im gonna upload them on rapidshare and PM you the links

Perfect.

locopoke · Sep 21st, 2009, 11:53:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Minato.

Perfect.

Just sent them. Now are you going to upload them and delete the other videos or can you edit the videos and upload this newer version in place of them?

Minato. · Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:46:00 AM

I'm still editing the vids,when I'm done,I will upload them if Matty agrees with it.

*twashley+* · Sep 22nd, 2009, 4:06:43 PM

Should we really be uploading videos of semi-finals, when the finals haven't even happened yet? If the player didn't give permission, I think it's highly unfair that the opponent gets an opportunity to easily scout. I am not saying they always will, but it makes it so much easier. I don't know Flashstorm's view (new UU tournament), but nothing has really been said about it so I thought I would post anyway.

*matty+* · Sep 22nd, 2009, 4:13:28 PM

NO! Don't upload videos of Semi-Finals until AFTER the tournament has finished. Even if both players in the video agree, I don't care. I don't want "blood" on the hands of the YouTube channel for causing anti-teaming/anti-metagaming. Just wait 'till the major tournament finishes.

For other games outside of like Semi's and Finals, you will need the permission of both players in order to upload. If you don't have both, then you are not allowed to upload. Pretty simple concept

locopoke · Sep 22nd, 2009, 5:48:07 PM

Quote:

I'm still editing the vids,when I'm done,I will upload them if Matty agrees with it.

Guys, these are the videos that we already had uploaded (ew vs husk and flashstorm vs gouki). I got permission from all 4 of them to upload it beforehand and flashstorm said it was alright to upload the semi's early. Minato. is just editting them to make them HQ (i think?) so I don't think it'll be a problem to re-upload them since we currently have them up already. As for the Ultimate Cup videos, I am going to wait until the finals are over and then I'll upload them all, but flashstorm said it was completely fine for me to upload his match, he actually wanted me to. So I don't see a problem, but yeah guys, always ask permission first.

*matty+* · Sep 22nd, 2009, 5:54:51 PM

Ya sorry. I forgot that loco got permission from Flash and Gouki. But in general your gonna need acceptance from the players. I'm more worried about games in late Rounds since those are usually more important...

Witnessed · Sep 22nd, 2009, 6:00:31 PM

Nice job Matty, I think this is a cool additon to Smogon's network.

locopoke · Sep 22nd, 2009, 6:59:50 PM

Oh, also, I asked both panamaxis and VIL what music they wanted in their battle and neither of them told me anything. They both said it didn't matter to them, so somebody wanna help me decide on good music to put in it? Talk to me on irc or something i guess

Jolteon · Sep 22nd, 2009, 7:02:48 PM

I can help record/upload if you'd like, and I'd be happy to do so.

ThePatriot · Sep 22nd, 2009, 7:32:00 PM

did you guys take down the Gouki vs Flashstorm vid? If you did why?

locopoke · Sep 22nd, 2009, 7:38:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ThePatriot

did you guys take down the Gouki vs Flashstorm vid? If you did why?

I'm assuming Minato. did so that he can make it better quality and re-upload it?

Sep 20th, 2009, 3:33:08 PM	#1
matty+ Instrument of God Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reppin' the 3Oh!3 Posts: 1,069	Official Smogon YouTube Thread Welcome to the Official Smogon YouTube Thread This is a project started off from a suggestion for battlers to view old Tournament battles that may have been missed and showcased fun, interesting battles. Support for the idea was fairly strong and so here we are now. For the time being, we are going to upload mostly well-known, showcase battles. Here is the link to the actual YouTube Account http://www.youtube.com/user/SmogonU Anyway, here are the goals for the project: Competitive Tournament Matches: Mostly Semi-Finals and Final games would be fun to watch. However, I'm not opposed to uploading other tourney round games. These games will probably consist of well-known players in well known tournaments (Smogon Tour, Official Smogon Tournament, World Cup etc.). Gimmick tournaments will be by a case-by-case basis in my opinion. We'll cross that bridge when/if we ever get there. Commentaries / Commentators: Videos with audio from well known battlers in the community that warstory games and talk about whats happening, what both opponents are thinking. (It would be nice to get the players themselves to annonate or comment on the games themselves, but that is going to be near to impossible I realize) General strategies. etc. etc. Tutorials / Informational Videos: Not sure if this idea will ever get off the ground but I'd love to see some videos that teach players. It would be similar to how articles are written on the site teaching players certain ways to play or aspects of the metagame. How to build a Rain Dance Team, Sacrificing Pokemon at key moments in games, predicting. etc. etc. I just wanted to add that the time frame on this thing is gonna be further down the line if this thing is actually still going.* How to Format the YouTube Videos: Before the Video is uploaded, there are a few fields that need to be filled in or edited after the video is officially up. Here is a step by step walk through of how the formatting should look. Title The title should be of the Tournament that was played (e.g. World Cup), the Round of that tournament (e.g. Finals), followed by a dash - and the players that played (e.g. Earthworm Vs Husk) Description The description should have the same information that was in the Title (name of the tournament and <player1> vs. <player2>) along with: a link to the Smogon Tournament thread (e.g. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61345, credits to the music used (e.g. Breaking Benjamin), credits to the uploader (optional) and credits to the editor (optional) Tags Tags should always have Smogon in them. Besides that, it is up to the uploader. Possible Tags can include: Shoddy Battle, Tournament, Pokemon etc. Recorders w/ Permission to the Smogon Account: -loedoc -Locopoke -Sheep -PurpleWeezing -Vacuum -Minato. This thread is here for discussion between recorders, upkeep of the account, distribution of the password etc. etc. Please keep the thread as clean as possible and on point. If you have any else to suggest, feel free to post. Thanks __________________ Last edited by matty; Sep 20th, 2009 at 4:34:40 PM.

Sep 20th, 2009, 3:35:52 PM	#2
Rook Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 418	I think we should list the password holders so people can know who to send their videos to. And we also should add the email address to the OP. Edit: Thanks matty. Edit 2: Um, are we supposed to be subscribing to people on SmogonU? Because for some reason someone subscribed to bearsfan. Last edited by Rook; Sep 20th, 2009 at 3:54:07 PM.

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:22:11 PM	#5
locopoke Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,387	Just a few things I think we need to sort out. I talked about them with matty on IRC but I felt I should post them here so everybody is on the same page. What belongs in the title/credits? I really wasn't sure what to put here so i just put the players names and the tournament name (as well as which round). And in the video description, what belongs there? Link to the tournament page? Names of the battlers? Does the person who recorded the match get any special thanks or anything? Just a few things that we need to work out before we upload anything else. __________________ pm me if you want me to rate your team but i might not do it Subscribe to the Smogon YouTube Channel to stay up to date with the newest tournament matches.

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:31:14 PM	#7
mohaji Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 174	I can record battles too. I'm often online on smogon server and watch the final battles of the tournaments. __________________ Working on: Barboach Analyses

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:34:08 PM	#8
locopoke Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,387	For the descriptions of the videos I'm thinking the standard layout should be: Tournament Name + Round Link to the tournament thread <player> vs. <player> the songs that were used special thanks to the person who recorded it and editted it does that sound good? __________________ pm me if you want me to rate your team but i might not do it Subscribe to the Smogon YouTube Channel to stay up to date with the newest tournament matches.

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:07:14 PM	#3
it lf I could be banned! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 345	Farmer made a reenactment of HECTOR vs MDragon. Want it?

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:13:39 PM	#4
Rook Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 418	Yeah sure, that would probably be a good battle to put on. Email the file to Smogon@gmail.com. If that doesn't work, PM one of the password holders a download link. Edit to Purple Weezing: If you want to, then sure. I'm not asking you to, that would be a big time commitment. But if you want to, we can wait for you.

Sep 20th, 2009, 4:37:28 PM	#9
matty+ Instrument of God Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reppin' the 3Oh!3 Posts: 1,069	Ya I agree with that. OP editted to reflect that. Discussion about the YouTube channel should take place in #stark for reference guys. We aren't allowed to make an splinter channel for the project. Sorry __________________ Last edited by matty; Sep 20th, 2009 at 4:46:02 PM.

Sep 21st, 2009, 8:12:40 AM	#12
Minato. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Zimbabwe Posts: 100	Could everyone who recorded a tourneymatch before me send the vid to smogonu@gmail.com ,so I can edit them and make them HQ? __________________ SoulSilver FC: 5027 3639 9683 www.youtube.com/smogonU <SUBSCRIBE!

Sep 21st, 2009, 11:31:58 AM	#13
locopoke Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,387	I'll send you husk vs. ew and flashstorm1 vs. gouki. once im done editting panamaxis vs. VIL and LoveDestiny vs. IPL I'll send those too. edit: for some reason when i try to attach the video to an email and send it, it freezes at 50%. im gonna upload them on rapidshare and PM you the links __________________ pm me if you want me to rate your team but i might not do it Subscribe to the Smogon YouTube Channel to stay up to date with the newest tournament matches. Last edited by locopoke; Sep 21st, 2009 at 11:39:22 AM.

Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:46:00 AM	#16
Minato. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Zimbabwe Posts: 100	I'm still editing the vids,when I'm done,I will upload them if Matty agrees with it. __________________ SoulSilver FC: 5027 3639 9683 www.youtube.com/smogonU <SUBSCRIBE!

Sep 22nd, 2009, 4:06:43 PM	#17
twashley+ Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,476	Should we really be uploading videos of semi-finals, when the finals haven't even happened yet? If the player didn't give permission, I think it's highly unfair that the opponent gets an opportunity to easily scout. I am not saying they always will, but it makes it so much easier. I don't know Flashstorm's view (new UU tournament), but nothing has really been said about it so I thought I would post anyway.

Sep 22nd, 2009, 4:13:28 PM	#18
matty+ Instrument of God Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reppin' the 3Oh!3 Posts: 1,069	NO! Don't upload videos of Semi-Finals until AFTER the tournament has finished. Even if both players in the video agree, I don't care. I don't want "blood" on the hands of the YouTube channel for causing anti-teaming/anti-metagaming. Just wait 'till the major tournament finishes. For other games outside of like Semi's and Finals, you will need the permission of both players in order to upload. If you don't have both, then you are not allowed to upload. Pretty simple concept __________________

Sep 22nd, 2009, 5:54:51 PM	#20
matty+ Instrument of God Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reppin' the 3Oh!3 Posts: 1,069	Ya sorry. I forgot that loco got permission from Flash and Gouki. But in general your gonna need acceptance from the players. I'm more worried about games in late Rounds since those are usually more important... __________________

Sep 22nd, 2009, 6:59:50 PM	#22
locopoke Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,387	Oh, also, I asked both panamaxis and VIL what music they wanted in their battle and neither of them told me anything. They both said it didn't matter to them, so somebody wanna help me decide on good music to put in it? Talk to me on irc or something i guess __________________ pm me if you want me to rate your team but i might not do it Subscribe to the Smogon YouTube Channel to stay up to date with the newest tournament matches.

Sep 22nd, 2009, 7:02:48 PM	#23
Jolteon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boonville, Indiana Posts: 1,091	I can help record/upload if you'd like, and I'd be happy to do so. __________________ *Diamond: 4339 1144 7791 \|\| Platinum: 3094 6241 0762 \|\| I use Legal Hacks* Check out my RMT v2! \|\| Check my Trade Thread! \|\| YouTube Channel Do not PM me! VM me!

Sep 22nd, 2009, 7:32:00 PM	#24
ThePatriot Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: A hoot and a holler away. Posts: 171	did you guys take down the Gouki vs Flashstorm vid? If you did why? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/SmogonU Go there. NOW!!!!!