Stage 3-2 Vote - Page 4

shrang · Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:51:03 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU
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Garchomp - On the fence for this one, although I'd just incline to go Uber
Latias - Great check in Suspect, but after playing Latias for so long, it is definitely not broken. OU
Manaphy - With all the Garchomp and sand friends running around, Manaphy was really underwhelming, OU

DCJ · Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:51:35 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

**M Dragon** · Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:52:10 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Manaphy - Uber
Latias - OU

LoveDensity · Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:52:44 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - Uber
Manaphy -Uber

Mr.E · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:06:03 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

Please start your reply exactly as I started this post to ease the task of tallying votes.

We have 132 potential voters

Simply indicate OU or Uber after each suspect. If you wish to abstain, you can just leave it blank. Nothing else is needed. If you wish to add commentary or explanation, you are welcome to do so below your votes.

The reason we are conducting the vote in this manner is that we do not want people on the fence to be swayed by voting trends. Posts have been moderated here... so your post will not show up. ONLY POST ONCE. All users will be voting blindly and the results will be revealed at the end.

Thank you very much to all of our participants. This has been a long process and this is certainly a milestone moment long in the making.

Any Super Moderators and Admins voting... please soft delete your post once you've made it as your posting will override the moderation control.

How come you didn't underline the Y above. >:o

e.j. · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:20:54 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy -

Scofield · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:28:39 PM

Garchomp -uber
Latias - ou
Manaphy -ou

killerwhale · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:36:14 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

ARandomDude · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:36:59 PM

Garchomp- OU
Latias- OU
Manaphy- OU

-Marcel- · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:44:07 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - Cant decide, really.
Manaphy -Uber

Garchomp - Garchomp is hard to use, yes he is. The scarf ones mostly need Outrage to do good damage, always to get met up with an Ice Punch Jirachi, BP Scizor, HP Ice Mzone etc. SD Chomp is not nearly as good as it was, since Scarf Heatran, Scarf Magnezone, (Scarf) Chomp, Latias, Gengar, Scarf Jirachi and Scizor are everywhere, so it is really hard to pull of a SD and kill 2 or more Pokémon. When Chomp is in town, everyone will use a max SpDef Skarm, for good reasons. There are several ways to win against chomp, locking it into Outrage and revenging it is the most easiest way. Chomp needs Outrage to get some essential KOs. Skarm + (t)spikes damage works as well. It doesn't work that good in the steelbased metagame.

Most people already are using BP Scizor, Scarf Jirachi etc, so you don't have to change your team that much (I didnt have to) to beat Garchomp. It is kinda unpredictable and uncounterable, but hey, same counts for Pokémon like Salamence and Jirachi.

Latias - We all know its ups and downs, pursuit weak is his onliest weakness. Latias easily shuts down most kinds of stall. Though, it has the same problem as Gchomp. Its hard for Latias (heck she even doesnt have strong ground/fire move's) to stay around in this steel based metagame. Scizor, Metagross but even more Jirachi are some of her biggest pains, and those are everywhere.

The Trick version requires quit a bit prediction, since most of her ''counters'' are choiced. Some pack Pursuit (TTar, Mgross, Weavile, Scizor), not much to say.

HP Fire.. that.. has cost me a lot of battles. The 30Spd IV really sucks!

Manaphy - Manaphy is a total pain. She does so well in this steel based metagame. Gigantic movepool, awesome allround stats and usefull ability makes this thing really hard to combat. In my battles, I felt that I really needed a solid counter for this thing, otherwise it would walk over my team. Manaphy is a Pokémon that ''rapes'' today's metagame.

whistle · Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:57:44 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

pi face · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:04:26 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy -OU

***Iconic**** · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:22:55 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy - Uber

Thank you again for your continued work.

TheFourthChaser · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:25:50 PM

Garchomp -Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy -Uber

Fireburn · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:39:54 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Manaphy - Uber
Latias - Uber
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Garchomp-Uber (bigfoots post in the suspect provides an outstanding argument.)

Manaphy-Uber (Too strong)

Latias-Uber (She was extremely, extremely hard to take down and I've always thought that Latias was a little too powerful.)

Darkmalice · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:54:38 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

Garchomp was even better than in Stage 3-1 thanks to no Latios or Skymin checks.
Manaphy was also better, but not enough to be broken.

Frosty · Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:56:00 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

tripe · Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:01:49 PM

Garchomp-uber
Manaphy-OU
Latias-OU

The_Chaser · Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:09:33 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy -OU

TAY · Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:11:59 PM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - Uber
Manaphy - No Vote

Reaver12 · Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:17:47 PM

Garchomp- OU
Latias- OU
Manaphy- OU

Avira · Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:46:42 PM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - Uber
Manaphy -OU

Erebyssial · Nov 24th, 2009, 1:07:39 AM

Garchomp - Uber
Latias - OU
Manaphy - Abstain

~~Setrack~~ · Nov 24th, 2009, 1:18:49 AM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

none of the suspects were broken at all. all ou

mien · Nov 24th, 2009, 3:55:06 AM

Garchomp - OU
Latias - OU
Manaphy - OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:51:03 PM	#76
shrang I'm a macrophage Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,849	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - OU --- Garchomp - On the fence for this one, although I'd just incline to go Uber Latias - Great check in Suspect, but after playing Latias for so long, it is definitely not broken. OU Manaphy - With all the Garchomp and sand friends running around, Manaphy was really underwhelming, OU Last edited by Cathy; Nov 25th, 2009 at 6:54:28 PM. Reason: added top section for script

Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:52:10 PM	#78
M Dragon The north wind Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,136	Garchomp - Uber Manaphy - Uber Latias - OU __________________

Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:52:44 PM	#79
LoveDensity Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 669 San Francisco	Garchomp - Uber Latias - Uber Manaphy -Uber __________________ I'm here to play the hand that I'm dealt I suggest you do the same these words are heartfelt

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:06:03 PM	#80
Mr.E im the best Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,732	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - OU Please start your reply exactly as I started this post to ease the task of tallying votes. We have 132 potential voters Simply indicate OU or Uber after each suspect. If you wish to abstain, you can just leave it blank. Nothing else is needed. If you wish to add commentary or explanation, you are welcome to do so below your votes. The reason we are conducting the vote in this manner is that we do not want people on the fence to be swayed by voting trends. Posts have been moderated here... so your post will not show up. ONLY POST ONCE. All users will be voting blindly and the results will be revealed at the end. Thank you very much to all of our participants. This has been a long process and this is certainly a milestone moment long in the making. Any Super Moderators and Admins voting... please soft delete your post once you've made it as your posting will override the moderation control. How come you didn't underline the Y above. >:o __________________ FREE AND the Jump non ice beam cleric blissey Last edited by Cathy; Nov 25th, 2009 at 7:26:27 PM. Reason: fixed for script

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:20:54 PM	#81
e.j. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 115	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - __________________ http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58975 ^My joint trade thread with TEST_101^ FC: 0259-8075-2559

Nov 23rd, 2009, 6:51:35 PM	#77
DCJ Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 432 Southern California	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:28:39 PM	#82
Scofield Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh, Kate........mmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,180 By Kate's side	Garchomp -uber Latias - ou Manaphy -ou __________________ Kate Beckinsale is the sun who makes me shine ~ALPHA RUINED~

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:36:14 PM	#83
killerwhale Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 87	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:44:07 PM	#85
-Marcel- Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 479 Credits to Wyverii	Garchomp - OU Latias - Cant decide, really. Manaphy -Uber Garchomp - Garchomp is hard to use, yes he is. The scarf ones mostly need Outrage to do good damage, always to get met up with an Ice Punch Jirachi, BP Scizor, HP Ice Mzone etc. SD Chomp is not nearly as good as it was, since Scarf Heatran, Scarf Magnezone, (Scarf) Chomp, Latias, Gengar, Scarf Jirachi and Scizor are everywhere, so it is really hard to pull of a SD and kill 2 or more Pokémon. When Chomp is in town, everyone will use a max SpDef Skarm, for good reasons. There are several ways to win against chomp, locking it into Outrage and revenging it is the most easiest way. Chomp needs Outrage to get some essential KOs. Skarm + (t)spikes damage works as well. It doesn't work that good in the steelbased metagame. Most people already are using BP Scizor, Scarf Jirachi etc, so you don't have to change your team that much (I didnt have to) to beat Garchomp. It is kinda unpredictable and uncounterable, but hey, same counts for Pokémon like Salamence and Jirachi. Latias - We all know its ups and downs, pursuit weak is his onliest weakness. Latias easily shuts down most kinds of stall. Though, it has the same problem as Gchomp. Its hard for Latias (heck she even doesnt have strong ground/fire move's) to stay around in this steel based metagame. Scizor, Metagross but even more Jirachi are some of her biggest pains, and those are everywhere. The Trick version requires quit a bit prediction, since most of her ''counters'' are choiced. Some pack Pursuit (TTar, Mgross, Weavile, Scizor), not much to say. HP Fire.. that.. has cost me a lot of battles. The 30Spd IV really sucks! Manaphy - Manaphy is a total pain. She does so well in this steel based metagame. Gigantic movepool, awesome allround stats and usefull ability makes this thing really hard to combat. In my battles, I felt that I really needed a solid counter for this thing, otherwise it would walk over my team. Manaphy is a Pokémon that ''rapes'' today's metagame. __________________ "You cannot discover new oceans until you have the courage to lose sight of the shore."

Nov 23rd, 2009, 7:57:44 PM	#86
whistle Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,603 Location: Chicago	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:04:26 PM	#87
pi face a Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 247	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy -OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:22:55 PM	#88
*Iconic Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,780 Canadaland Mentor	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - Uber Thank you again for your continued work.

Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:54:38 PM	#91
Darkmalice Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,173 Adelaide, Australia	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - OU Garchomp was even better than in Stage 3-1 thanks to no Latios or Skymin checks. Manaphy was also better, but not enough to be broken. __________________ Wanna play Doubles? Check it out here! Let's make this metagame official!

Nov 23rd, 2009, 8:56:00 PM	#92
Frosty Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,143	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:01:49 PM	#93
tripe Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 672 in a dream like state	Garchomp-uber Manaphy-OU Latias-OU __________________ Current status: On hiatus for now.

Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:09:33 PM	#94
The_Chaser Grant Holt <3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 841 Brisbane	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy -OU

Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:11:59 PM	#95
TAY You and I Know Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,543 San Diego, CA	Garchomp - Uber Latias - Uber Manaphy - No Vote __________________ ...said the Mock Turtle, "why, if a fish came to me, and told me he was going a journey, I should say 'With what porpoise?'" "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice. "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone. And the Gryphon added `Come, let's hear some of your adventures.'

Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:17:47 PM	#96
Reaver12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 240 Charleston, SC	Garchomp- OU Latias- OU Manaphy- OU __________________ "Hax Happens"

Nov 23rd, 2009, 9:46:42 PM	#97
Avira Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 231	Garchomp - OU Latias - Uber Manaphy -OU

Nov 24th, 2009, 1:07:39 AM	#98
Erebyssial Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 321	Garchomp - Uber Latias - OU Manaphy - Abstain

Nov 24th, 2009, 1:18:49 AM	#99
~~Setrack~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 188	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - OU none of the suspects were broken at all. all ou

Nov 24th, 2009, 3:55:06 AM	#100
mien Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 643 Belgium	Garchomp - OU Latias - OU Manaphy - OU