Pokémon Amethyst -~- A Sprite Resource Project

[Bynine]

That Lickilicky's hair curl is really, really awkward. The shading is off quite a bit and makes it look darker than the rest of the body.

[Mektar]

Here is my PEER EDIT of Croagunk: (it isn't transparent yet)


Sleet, could you please edit a couple of my sprites now? Like these ones?

[chocolate-kipp]

Bynine: It's already passed QC, so I wouldn't bother with changing it. :B
Mektar: I thought all the Rotom forms were the same size? How come Normal Rotom is so much smaller than the others (other than Fan)? I'm probably just thinking wrong, unless you sprited them far too big.

[Ghost.]

Originally Posted by Fat chocolate-kipp

Mektar: I thought all the Rotom forms were the same size? How come Normal Rotom is so much smaller than the others (other than Fan)? I'm probably just thinking wrong, unless you sprited them far too big.

As far as I can tell, this seems right. They should all be 1'0" according to marriland/serebi but I don't think they are proper pokedex entries...they seem copied from normal Rotom.

Maybe Mektar found the proper heights from another source?

E: Ok I think they are all meant to be the same size as Rotom. All websites I've searched seem to confirm it.

[chocolate-kipp]

That's what I thought. Also, Phione's ribbon thing really bothered me, so I hope it's alright that I tinkered with it. Also made it to be the regular DPPt sprites' black, rather than default.

[Tayla]

Um.. what did you do to Croagunk's eye.. ? It was correct otherwise, Croagunk's eyes don't look like that. Plus you made its right arm way way too skinny. The version before your peer edit is the one we should stick with.

[TacoHawk76]

I am tired and I have real world work to do. But I took time out to finish this.

Old Floatzel


New Floatzel


I'm so proud :P

[chocolate-kipp]

Looks a lot better, Taco. C: The shading is a bit iffy though. I'm not gonna try helping with that though since I'm better with outlines, I think. Nice job though!

[Alchemator]

I'm just going to point out that at the end of the project (pre-shinies etc) we will be having a Spriting Review, in which we will try to bring all sprites to approximately the same level of quality. It's fine to edit sprites that have passed QC, but for just stating critique please wait until that stage.

[Mektar]

Originally Posted by Fat Tayla

Um.. what did you do to Croagunk's eye.. ? It was correct otherwise, Croagunk's eyes don't look like that. Plus you made its right arm way way too skinny. The version before your peer edit is the one we should stick with.

Croagunk looked too angry, so I made him happier. I didn't make the right arm smaller, I made the right hand bigger. I also made some important shading and ouline treaks that should be incorporated into the final sprite even if the eyes are not.

Also, Have you people ever seen the anime episode where Rotom first appeared? In the episode, Normal Rotom is in fact one foot tall. However, when it becomes another form, it possesses the motor of a household appliance, becoming the same size as that appliance. How many one-foot lawnmowers have you people seen?

[Tayla]

... He's supposed to be angry he's idling in a fighter's stance. It doesn't matter if he's happier if Croagunk eye's never look like that.

[chocolate-kipp]

Originally Posted by Fat Mektar

Also, Have you people ever seen the anime episode where Rotom first appeared? In the episode, Normal Rotom is in fact one foot tall. However, when it becomes another form, it possesses the motor of a household appliance, becoming the same size as that appliance. How many one-foot lawnmowers have you people seen?

The anime's art is actually quite out of proportion. Srs, Furret is supposed to be 5'11", but keep in mind that it's no more than two feet in the anime. The in-game heights are supposed to be 1'0", and so their sprites should be as well.
Not trying to be rude, just pointing it out. :B

@Pers, I figured something like that would go on. Looking forward to it (some of the sprites in the gallery do need tweaking I think).

[Sleet]

Hello anyone.

Rotom Sizes: I am siding with Mektar over the great Rotom size war. I always thought Rotom possessed the appliance, thus becoming that size. Therefore having said that, I believe Fridge should be a bit bigger? And perhaps Heat being a little smaller, he's a microwave, right?

Sprite Review: I've also read Persistence's last post, but I fully believe that Pichu is too big. I think it should be redone and redone before we reach the spriting review stage, so that someone anyone can have a go at it whilst there's still options. I'm willing to be wrong or swayed by reasoning, but honestly, right now, I don't think it can pass as a 1' tall 'mon.

Peer Edits: I don't peer edit because I like to start from the beginning, I like making my own lineart, I like finding the picture and all that. I also don't believe that what I would do would be wanted, or either technically right or just look right. I'd rather not say 'this is my version and I think it's better'.

HAVING SAID THAT, I tried to peer edit your Rotom's, Mektar. I started with the Fan, I didn't get very far before destroying it, taking pieces away, changing everything. In the end, I literally had the central circle just greyed out. I might as well have started again. So I didn't bother continuing.

I then tried Mow and the same thing happened. I didn't bother with Fridge and Heat, because I feel that they could be the wrong size (CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG). So with one left to attempt...!

This is my ALTERNATE version of Wash (Mektar's on the left, mine on the right):


What I altered:
-The top of Rotom's head shape (depth lines, or whatever they're called)
-The middle circle which resulted in...
-The outer circle
-The hose circle
-I changed the shape of his mouth because I didn't like an O, I looked at other sprites/pictures, and they had this general shape
-Outline in several places (his eyes, hose, feet, etc)
-His middle line
-MY version of shading (THIS COULD VERY WELL BE A DISASTEROUS IDEA)

Like I said, I don't think I've done a better version, just an alternative, my version if you will. I can categorically say that I cannot shade to save my life, so I'm sure I've not done it justice.

SO I ASK YOU ALL: How does everyone else peer edit? How do you just change a few pixels of a sprite without feeling the need to completely take it apart? It took me so long to change stuff that I feel like starting it again, from my point of view, would have been the faster option :///

I'm pretty sure you all hate it when I talk, I should shut up but eh.

VERY LATE EDIT: Chocolate-kipp, your Furret example is wrong because they alternate height and length depending on the pokemon in question. Furret is 5'11'' LONG. This happens quite a few times, Gorebyss, Ekans, Seviper, Dragonair for example, springs to mind. It is mainly serpentine pokemon, and although Furret is definitely not a snake, it is long enough and has kind of those sorts of qualities.

I think we should look at appliances and make proper judgements regarding their size. Look at a fridge, is it 1' tall? I think that the sizes on the cards refer to the Rotom as opposed to the appliance, since the appliance (I believe) is NOT Rotom. This picture sums up how I feel about the Rotom sizes (it's a proper picture suggesting my point is correct, not some kind of troll thing):

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[chocolate-kipp]

Lol, Sleet, it doesn't look bad. :B I like that you redid the shading, wouldn't have been able to do that myself. Outline looks better too.

However, I should repeat that the anime's sizes and the game's sizes are far different, and since regular Rotom is considered 1'0" and it doesn't show the heights of the other forms, we have to assume they're all the same height as well.

Overall, I think it's gonna get scrapped because of the size inconsistencies, but it's up to Pers (who I am overly tempted to call Percy).

[wickdaggler]

That Giritina is sick... I think I'm inspired to sprite again. Quick edit on some shading for it's headpiece:

[chocolate-kipp]

Its head is really shiny eeee
Is anyone gonna mess with the highlights on its tail? I would do it, but I'm afraid I'll mess it up more, lol.

[Mektar]

Thanks a bunch, Sleet! It looks much better now. Except for the shading. I'll change it later.

[Sleet]

This is Sleet's post.

I like Floatzel more than the last.
I like that you like Rotom, apart from the shading.
I like the fact that Giratina inspired you to sprite again.

I do not like Mr Mime or Weezing. I got this far before deciding I can't continue them.

Those line arts are not perfect, I'd usually tweak them a bit as I shade, however that's the problem. I just don't know how to shade them. Shame, because I think that the Mr Mime pose is really quite good (how did I miss that the first time) ;_____; If anyone sees any promise or can guide me, I'd appreciate it massively.

Also, isn't Drowzee really scary.
EDIT: this is a newer version of him!

I don't like the colour of Drowzee, but official sprites use these abhorrent shades of yellow.
I don't like uploading it about 12 times because each time you see something that you've forgotten to do.

I also replied to your last post regarding Rotom's sizes, Chocolate-kipp, in my previous post, if you didn't catch that.

That was Sleet's post.

EDIT: This is an edit of Sleet's post.

I might try and finish of Weezing, if that's the case, but forget Mr Mime, he's annoyed me twice.
This was Drowzee's picture

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I'm not going to pretend his shading isn't anything other than atrocious, however I did attempt to copy it from here (which I know, isn't the best thing to do always).

You're right about Rotom though, we need someone with authority to say their piece.

I also don't know anything about paint.net. I do everything on paint, then when I'm done, paste it into a 160x160 canvas on .net to transparentise. I usually ctrl roll-scroll then 'same%-skew' (to keep the ratio) if necessary using paint (i'm so archaic with my methods), but I use .net to rotate if it needs it. You can certainly drag size it, but I don't know if that's what you're after ._. SORRY.

I, for one, approve your constant criticisms massively though.

That probably isn't the end to Sleet's edited post, but it will do for now.

[chocolate-kipp]

I like how the Weezing turned out (a lot, lol), but the Mr. Mime's arms are bent quite awkwardly. Sorry the pose wasn't as good as I thought it'd be. Drowzee's eye and left hand also look quite odd, and his body shading is somewhat off. Sorry if I'm coming off rude, 'cause I'm having a bad day :>.

I'm still not sure what I think of the Rotom forms, but I guess you're right about the sizes. A one-foot tall fridge would be even smaller than a mini-fridge. :V But again, it's up to Pers/Percy/Alch/whatever.

Also, I think I'm going to download Paint.NET to use for spriting. Can you resize images with it and figure out the exact dimensions of the sprite with it? I'd like to know before I download it since I plan on doing pixel-overs. Thanks.

CHOCO OUT.

EDIT: Didn't see that you liked the pose, lol. I still think that the arms look a bit weird, and I may try to shade parts of it (mostly his round arm/leg puffs). Sorry again. |D;;

[Tayla]

I actually quite like the Mr. Mime. It doesn't look creepy as hell, and it only needs shading and a few lineart tweaks.

[Alchemator]

I am assuming that Rotom's size depends upon the size of the object it inhabits (I.E. Sleet + Mektar opinion is correct). Wichu can overrule me on this, but I'm pretty sure this is the case.

I'm liking Mr.Mime and Weezing!

[chocolate-kipp]

I broke Drowzee. :<
Messed with his eye/line next to his eye, a couple of his fingers, but most notably the shading on his left leg/body.
Not really any better, but I tried. Was mostly just testing Paint.NET anyways. :B

[Mektar]

Combined effort for the win! Peer Edits: 1

[Ghost.]

Drowzee obviously smashed its right hand (OUR LEFT) against a wall on a drunken night out? Really though, I think that hand needs a doctor.

[Mektar]

Currently editing Floatzel 4 Taco. Mainly minor outline tweaks, but I need to reduce the # of colors to 15.