(Archive) Small Objective Changes Thread

[Charmander]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/little_cup_guide
in the fourth gen little cup guide, most of the given sets have extremely strange spacing, while some of the other sets are spaced normally.
like this

Gligar @ Oran Berry

Sand Veil

236 HP / 236 Def

Impish nature

~ Earthquake

~ Roost

~ Stealth Rock

~ Stone Edge / Taunt

[Umbreon Dan]

wow man that's gross i'm going to start fixing it

nobody else touch!!

[Umbreon Dan]

Originally Posted by Fat -Charmander-

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/little_cup_guide
in the fourth gen little cup guide, most of the given sets have extremely strange spacing, while some of the other sets are spaced normally.
like this

~ Stone Edge / Taunt

okay so the html on this page was really messy, it is now cleaner. thank you for pointing this out!

[Hawkstar]

I just dug up a sheet full of typos that i never reported for Farfetch'd through Groudon. Granted, this was from like October-November 2010, so some may be fixed, but I'll try to screen those out.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/farfetchd

In the opinion section, it says:

...some interesting moves none of which can be employed to their full potential...

Add a comma between "moves" and "none".

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/floatzel

In the third paragraph of the Physical Attacker set, it says:

...especially considering its lackluster Attack - it needs all the power it can get.

The dash there should be an em dash instead of a regular one.

In the second paragraph of the Bulk Up set, it says:

Max Attack is used to make Floatzel hits as hard as possible...

"Hits" should be "hit"

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/garchomp

In the second paragraph of the CB set, it says:

As with the Choice Scarf set, Dragon Claw is useful to finish off weakened Pokémon without becoming locked into.

I believe the author left out "Outrage" at the end of the sentence.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gengar

In the second paragraph of the Life Orb set, it says:

...a lot of Steel-type Pokemon in the game - Scizor, Metagross, and Jirachi, to name a few - can come in on most of Gengar's attacks...

Those dashes should be em dashes.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/giratina

In the third paragraph of the Great Wall set, it says:

It doesn't help that Giratina possesses weaknesses to Dragon-,Ice-, Ghost-, and Dark-type attacks...

It should read "Dragon-, Ice-,..."

In the second paragraph of the Calm Mind set, it says:

...and will laugh at even a boosted Dragon Pulse , especially since...

There shouldn't be a space between "Pulse" and the comma.

In the bottom of the third paragraph of Team Options, it says:

...if Giratina lack Will-O-Wisp...

That should say "lacks".

In the last sentence of the Calm Mind set, it says:

...thanks to its resistance to ExtremeSpeed

There is no period at the end of this sentence.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/giratina-o

In the fourth paragraph of the Mixed Attacker set, two mistakes appear:

Many of the common leads fall to it - Deoxys-S will not pull off...

...which fails to OHKO Giratina-o...

The first requires an em dash, while the second requires capitalization of the "o".

In the ninth paragraph of the Stallbreaker set, it says:

Giratina-O is able to defeat or severely weaken Support, Bulk up, and Choice Scarf sets...

"up" needs capitalized. The last sentence of that same paragraph has the same mistake.

In the eleventh paragraph of the Stallbreaker set, it says:

Even if Kyogre is carrying 252 HP EVs,it will often be...

There needs to be a space between the comma and "it".

In the fourth paragraph of the Sleeping Beauty set, it says:

Having an immunity to Earthquake never hurts either-the more free switch ins possible, the better.

There should be an em dash and two spaces around it there.

In the third paragraph of Team Options, it says:

(Dragon Pulse or Dialga, Ice Punch for Metagross, and Hidden Power Ice for Heatran)

"or" should be "for".

In the fourth paragraph of Team Options, it says:

...while Giratina-O covers there weaknesses...

"there" should be "their"

In the second paragraph of EVs, it says:

...provided that both Giratina-O and Kyogre has the same number of boosts...

"has" should be "have"

In the second paragraph of Opinion, it says:

...Forretress can not Spin away any entry hazards that is set up by Giratina-O’s teammate(s)...

"is" should be "are".

In the first paragraph of Counters, it says:

The Special Attacker can be stopped by Latias with proper EVs , but only if Stealth Rock is not present.

The space after "EVs" is extraneous.

In the third paragraph of Counters, it says:

...who can take all of Giratina-O's attack with ease...

"attack" should be "attacks".

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gliscor

In the second paragraph of the Swords Dance set, it says:

...gives Gliscor great coverage paired with Earthquake - hitting everything in OU except Breloom...

There should be an em dash in place of the regular dash.

The same problem exists in the third paragraph of the same set, as well as in the first sentence of Optional Changes.

Skarmory is a great asset, since his main weakness - Electric-type attacks - is covered by Gliscor easily.

Gliscor has a wide array of moves at his disposal - nearly any set listed here can use...

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gorebyss

In the second paragraph of Opinions, it says:

As a pure Water-type, Gorebyss isn't resistant to Normal or Flying-type attacks; however, it also isn't as vulnerable to Mach Punch, Vacuum Wave, Ground attacks, and unexpected Hidden Power Grass.

"...or an unexpected Hidden Power Grass." would fit better.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/granbull

In the first sentence of Other Options, it says:

Payback is more powerful than Crunch if Granbull goes last, or use it on the switch...

"use" should be "uses".

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/groudon

In the fourth paragraph of the Rock Polish set, it says:

There are three main walls in Ubers that will give Groudon:...

It appears the author left out "trouble" or "problems" at the end of that statement.

In the last paragraph of the Support set, it says:

While on the surface, this set does not look like your typical wallbreaker.

"While" makes this a sentence fragment, so remove that and capitalize "on" as a result.

In the first paragraph of the ParaDancer set, it says:

It's best to Thunder Wave in the early-game when almost every Pokemon is faster than Groudon.

"in the early-game" is technically grammatically correct, but somewhat awkward. "Early on in the game" sounds better, in my opinion.

And that's all.

[Fatecrashers]

I'll be tackling Hawkstar's suggestions.

Hands off, this means you.

[Fatecrashers]

me and umbreon dan implemented hawkstar's helpful recommendations

[Charmander]

more Ponyta stuff http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/ponyta

If Ponyta gets the chance to activate its Flash Fire ability and is carrying a Choice Band....

Here it sounds like Flash Fire is an adjective describing Ponyta's ability. Perhaps it should be "If Ponyta gets a chance to active its ability, Flare Fire, and is...."

[Charmander]

Sorry I didn't catch this before, but in the same paragraph I was talking about above, in the first sentence, it says

With a Choice Band, Flare Blitz becomes one of the strongest attacks in LC, having....

aren't we not supposed to use LC and just write Little Cup?

[Fatecrashers]

the capitalisation and the fact that 'flash' and 'fire' are nouns make it obvious that 'Flash Fire' is in no way an adjective

doesn't seem like a problem to me

also i know for a fact that we use 'OU' and 'UU' as tier abbreviations in analyses (eg Gyarados has a lot of checks in OU) so i would assume LC is fine

[Oglemi*]

LC is fine. Uber is the only one written out.

[Rising_Dusk]

Originally Posted by Fat Oglemi

LC is fine. Uber is the only one written out.

Posting to confirm this.

[Charmander]

Chingling is often left in the shadows of its fellow Psychic-types. Bronzor, Slowpoke, and even Natu are better choices in the majority of cases, due to their superior typings and bulk.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/chingling
is that comma supposed to be there? (between cases and due)

[Charmander]

more un-needed commas

Magnemite can trap and kill Steel-types, and has good defensive synergy with Bagon since it resists the Ice- and Dragon-type attacks that give Bagon trouble.

between "-types" and "and"
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/bagon

[Charmander]

sorry about the triple post, found another bagon thing
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/bagon
on both sets, it lists Rock Head as the ability. Since Rock Head is Bagon's only ability, shouldn't there just not be an ability section?

[Tomahawk9]

Originally Posted by Fat Contributions & Corrections Forum Rules & Guidelines

Don't use custom set names
It's okay if you come up with a 'cool name' for a set that you've designed, but the name in most cases will not be used. Custom set names for sets get added to analyses after the fact if the community at large starts referring to those sets by the custom names. Good examples of this are DPP BritScor and DPP Tinkerbell. These sets were named after the fact, and the community embraced those names long before they were used in the C&C analyses.

Why Ampharos Don't Have Wool (Life Orb)

OU Knock it Off, Mojonbo Rules Here! (Physical Tank)

[Zystral]

I fixed the mentioning of Bagon's Rock Head ability, but I think those commas belong.

As for Tomahawk9, those set names are kind of classic and woven into the community. I think that rule only applies for new sets.

[Rising_Dusk]

Mojonbo and Ampharos's Wool set are both set names that have been around for a very, very long time. Everyone knows Mojonbo, even if it's not that popular in the current metagame. I doubt everyone knows Ampharos, but that name's been around since forever, sort of like this. Those will not be changing.

Also, one of those commas belongs, the other doesn't. I've fixed that discrepancy.

[Charmander]

"Surf can also be used to hit Aron if your team requires."
that just sounds really awkward to me
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/zigzagoon
Life orb set second paragraph last sentence.

[Charmander]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/elekid
Elekid's only ability is static, but it is listed as the ability on every set. Unless I'm missing something, there just shouldn't be an ability part.

[Charmander]

^ same as above, there should be no abilities section on a Pokemon with only one ability
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dratini

[Oglemi*]

Originally Posted by Fat -Charmander-

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/elekid
Elekid's only ability is static, but it is listed as the ability on every set. Unless I'm missing something, there just shouldn't be an ability part.

^ same as above, there should be no abilities section on a Pokemon with only one ability
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dratini

Got both of these

[Charmander]

Ok same problem with it listing the ability
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/oddish
the bulky sunny dancer set

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat -Charmander-

Ok same problem with it listing the ability
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/oddish
the bulky sunny dancer set

took care of it, thanks

[Charmander]

Ok in the Normalized Base Stats article, in the fourth paragraph, it says

The formula for the Pokemon's actual HP is different than that for the other stats....

different than should be different from right?
http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/normalized_stats

[Rising_Dusk]

It is fine either way.