Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - May 2010 - Page 3

Gazooki · Jun 7th, 2010, 10:41:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Proboscidea

Someone pulled the joke thing again in Ubers. This time it's Weedle, Luvdisc, Dunsparce, and Delibird.

Yep, that was me. All 4 of those were on my team, and a few others from our irc/forum joined in as well.

dbcb · Jun 7th, 2010, 11:07:44 AM

Seeing a joke poke on the uber ladder stats... funny

Seeing someone be so original and do it with other pokes... yawn.

I am stunned in UU that sceptile had higher usage than torterra...

bludhoundz · Jun 7th, 2010, 1:17:56 PM

Damn, Starmie rose a lot in Suspect to check Heatran, Infernape and Gyarados.

lordkira · Jun 7th, 2010, 1:55:50 PM

Though machamp's usage in OU would be slightly higher :/

Redtype · Jun 7th, 2010, 2:12:26 PM

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Standard Ladder
35 | Electivire | 64503 | 6.03 |

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Suspect Ladder
55 | Electivire | 222 | 1.14 |

This is what Electivire usage would look like if Standard Ladder wasn't filled with noobs.

-Eddie- · Jun 7th, 2010, 2:19:38 PM

If salamence is banned, then UU is going to change a lot as well. Uxie could be leaving UU , but Dusknoir, Smeargle, Electivire, Umbreon,and Hippowdon could be coming.

petrie911 · Jun 7th, 2010, 2:40:06 PM

Latias is banned, and Umbreon usage goes....up? Weird.

Heracross is back below the UU cutoff again. Still, he'll probably go back up above it by the time tiering gets redone.

If the suspect ladder is a true indication of how OU would change upon Salamence's banning, things would really shake up in UU. Mamoswine, Dusknoir, and Electivire seem like perfectly good additions, and Smeargle and Umbreon have been fine in UU before. Hippowdon would almost certainly go straight to BL, though. Regirock, Rhyperior, and Cradily become horrifying under perma-sand.

Sir Azelf · Jun 7th, 2010, 3:21:05 PM

Dear ladder noobs and morons, stop using Scizor/Lucario/<everything> bait Umbreon so he can drop back into UU where its actually needed and then maybe you will win more in the process when you stop using it in OU, thanks. ~_~ lol

And really Hera needs way more usage. SD Cross + Dual Screens beats literally everything, infact i got top ten on suspect using this. Its quite pitiful to see garbage like Dusknoir used more than it. :/

magickzzl · Jun 7th, 2010, 3:28:09 PM

thankies Doug, great job as always. Yay for Clefable 17 in UU.

***Delko**** · Jun 7th, 2010, 3:29:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sir Azelf

Dear ladder noobs and morons, stop using Scizor/Lucario/<everything> bait Umbreon so he can drop back into UU where its actually needed and then maybe you will win more in ou in the process when you stop using it in OU, thanks. ~_~ lol

Agree, Umbreon is a beast in UU where in OU he is just crap.

Never faced a Weedle lead in Ubers though!?

BloodyRoutin · Jun 7th, 2010, 3:41:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Delko

Agree, Umbreon is a beast in UU where in OU he is just crap.

Never faced a Weedle lead in Ubers though!?

| 12 | Weedle | 633 | 1.94 |
Quite sad actually. Use Ariados or something, heck even Parasect can work.

@Sir Azelf:
Agreed this thing is a underrated threat. Hopefully we'll see more Hera and less Scizor. Stupid metal bug.

Megan_Fox · Jun 7th, 2010, 3:47:58 PM

i see machamp lead only seems to be growing. the heatran leads on suspect are probably from the rise in specstran used to counter machamp leads. it matches up pretty well vs other leads too

edit: choicescarf ttar still seems to be popular on both standard and suspect despite latias being gone on both

Bribery · Jun 7th, 2010, 4:02:02 PM

Another thing to note on Tyranitar is that Choice Band is making a comeback. Last month, Choice Band on Tyranitar fell into the "other items" category.

DropTheNuke · Jun 7th, 2010, 5:52:42 PM

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| 35 | Electivire | 64503 | 6.03 |
| 38 | Ninjask | 50982 | 4.76 |

VS

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| 55 | Electivire | 222 | 1.14 |
| 80 | Ninjask | 95 | 0.49 |

Glad to see where the noobs aren't laddering.

Also,

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...lol

Aura Guardian · Jun 7th, 2010, 5:56:15 PM

Heatran, Infernape, Starmie, Rotom-A, Gyarados, Jirachi, and Tyranitar.

Welcome, the new Szizors.

blasphemy1 · Jun 7th, 2010, 6:12:16 PM

The usage is going to be skewed on the standard or suspect ladders because of new trends players are trying out, as well as the fact that certain players of certain rating echelons play standard or suspect, while the lower rated players run around with random Pokemon.

Fizz · Jun 7th, 2010, 6:12:22 PM

Centralization is an interesting issue here. One could say that because there are a variety of pokémon that are used on a high percentage of teams in Suspect, Suspect is less centralized than Standard. On the other hand, one could also say that because there is a certain group of pokémon that are used an extremely large amount of the time (and thus other pokémon are used less), Suspect is in fact more centralized that Standard. It's just centralized around a larger core of pokémon.

So basically I'm confused about which is correct.

Missingno. Master · Jun 7th, 2010, 6:27:55 PM

Weezing usage in standard went up from 77 to 73. It's happening. Slowly but surely.

And Weedle at 12 in ubers? LOL. Just lol.

**PK Gaming** · Jun 7th, 2010, 6:53:03 PM

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Infernape is #2 in Suspect.. that means hes the new big dick in town. Starmie moves to #3 to counter Infernape rightfully so. Not surprised at all.

LOL.

Anywho Umbreon ROSE IN USAGE. What is this? Some kind of sick joke? PEOPLE. STOP USING UMBREON IN OU SO WE CAN USE HIM IN UU. Gosh, he's not even that good in OU. (His time has passed)

Now you guys want Uxie too? Not cool OU players, not cool.

Fucking Hera didn't drop. Darn. I wanted something... equilavalent exchange if you will.

Proboscidea · Jun 7th, 2010, 6:54:38 PM

Next thing you know, they'll start using Altaria in OU and they'll steal all the Dragons from the lower tiers.

blasphemy1 · Jun 7th, 2010, 7:00:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat PK Gaming

LOL.

Anywho Umbreon ROSE IN USAGE. What is this? Some kind of sick joke? PEOPLE. STOP USING UMBREON IN OU SO WE CAN USE HIM IN UU. Gosh, he's not even that good in OU. (His time has passed)

Now you guys want Uxie too? Not cool OU players, not cool.

Fucking Hera didn't drop. Darn. I wanted something... equilavalent exchange if you will.

Uxie is a great lead... I'm sorry, lol.

Proboscidea · Jun 7th, 2010, 7:03:21 PM

I know it's a good lead but the sudden rise (doubling its usage rank) is shocking.

Urbanism · Jun 7th, 2010, 7:09:34 PM

Still waiting for Roserade to drop back down. Also, Weavile needs to drop down. And Heracross. And Electivire..

~~LunaOrangeCrush~~ · Jun 7th, 2010, 7:11:25 PM

If salamence is banned, then UU is going to change a lot as well. Uxie could be leaving UU , but Dusknoir, Smeargle, Electivire, Umbreon,and Hippowdon could be coming.

Smeargle, Electivire, and Umbreon (and Ninjask for that matter) are "n00b Pokemon", meaning they're not very good but a lot of people like using them anyway. Said people usually don't play on suspect, so their drop in usage is more due to that than Salamence.

Proboscidea · Jun 7th, 2010, 7:14:24 PM

I would see Tentacruel going down if those go down. It's at the bottom. It's good but it's nothing TOO good to compete in UU.

Jun 7th, 2010, 3:21:05 PM	#58
Sir Azelf Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 242	Dear ladder noobs and morons, stop using Scizor/Lucario/<everything> bait Umbreon so he can drop back into UU where its actually needed and then maybe you will win more in the process when you stop using it in OU, thanks. ~_~ lol And really Hera needs way more usage. SD Cross + Dual Screens beats literally everything, infact i got top ten on suspect using this. Its quite pitiful to see garbage like Dusknoir used more than it. :/ __________________ Shoddy/PO Nicks: Sir Azelf, Dark_Azelf, D-A. Records Shoddy (smogon): #2 OU. #1 UU. #1 NU. #10 Suspect. Records PO/Smogon: #1 OU B/W (smogon). #3 GSC (po). #3 B/W UU. (po)

Jun 7th, 2010, 3:47:58 PM	#62
Megan_Fox Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 926 CT	i see machamp lead only seems to be growing. the heatran leads on suspect are probably from the rise in specstran used to counter machamp leads. it matches up pretty well vs other leads too edit: choicescarf ttar still seems to be popular on both standard and suspect despite latias being gone on both __________________ "If you don't got haters you aren't doing something right" - Kevin Durant

Jun 7th, 2010, 4:02:02 PM	#63
Bribery Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 275 Toronto, Ontario	Another thing to note on Tyranitar is that Choice Band is making a comeback. Last month, Choice Band on Tyranitar fell into the "other items" category. __________________ Euphoria

Jun 7th, 2010, 6:27:55 PM	#68
Missingno. Master Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 659 ???????	Weezing usage in standard went up from 77 to 73. It's happening. Slowly but surely. And Weedle at 12 in ubers? LOL. Just lol. __________________ Disclaimer: The above post may or may not have been made by a sane person.

Jun 7th, 2010, 7:09:34 PM	#73
Urbanism Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 222 New York	Still waiting for Roserade to drop back down. Also, Weavile needs to drop down. And Heracross. And Electivire.. __________________ White: 0733-7525-5925 ~Noah I use unreleased Dream World abilities. I might also possibly put our battle on Youtube. [ Currently Recording - Pokemon White; Please Comment, Rate, and Subscribe! ] ~★

Jun 7th, 2010, 11:07:44 AM	#52
dbcb Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248	Seeing a joke poke on the uber ladder stats... funny Seeing someone be so original and do it with other pokes... yawn. I am stunned in UU that sceptile had higher usage than torterra...

Jun 7th, 2010, 1:17:56 PM	#53
bludhoundz Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 78	Damn, Starmie rose a lot in Suspect to check Heatran, Infernape and Gyarados.

Jun 7th, 2010, 1:55:50 PM	#54
lordkira Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 994 won't	Though machamp's usage in OU would be slightly higher :/

Jun 7th, 2010, 2:19:38 PM	#56
-Eddie- Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 148 Maryland	If salamence is banned, then UU is going to change a lot as well. Uxie could be leaving UU , but Dusknoir, Smeargle, Electivire, Umbreon,and Hippowdon could be coming.

Jun 7th, 2010, 2:40:06 PM	#57
petrie911 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 858	Latias is banned, and Umbreon usage goes....up? Weird. Heracross is back below the UU cutoff again. Still, he'll probably go back up above it by the time tiering gets redone. If the suspect ladder is a true indication of how OU would change upon Salamence's banning, things would really shake up in UU. Mamoswine, Dusknoir, and Electivire seem like perfectly good additions, and Smeargle and Umbreon have been fine in UU before. Hippowdon would almost certainly go straight to BL, though. Regirock, Rhyperior, and Cradily become horrifying under perma-sand.

Jun 7th, 2010, 6:12:16 PM	#66
blasphemy1 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,616 In the Hall of the Goblin King	The usage is going to be skewed on the standard or suspect ladders because of new trends players are trying out, as well as the fact that certain players of certain rating echelons play standard or suspect, while the lower rated players run around with random Pokemon.

Jun 7th, 2010, 6:12:22 PM	#67
Fizz Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 801	Centralization is an interesting issue here. One could say that because there are a variety of pokémon that are used on a high percentage of teams in Suspect, Suspect is less centralized than Standard. On the other hand, one could also say that because there is a certain group of pokémon that are used an extremely large amount of the time (and thus other pokémon are used less), Suspect is in fact more centralized that Standard. It's just centralized around a larger core of pokémon. So basically I'm confused about which is correct.

Jun 7th, 2010, 7:11:25 PM	#74
~~LunaOrangeCrush~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4	If salamence is banned, then UU is going to change a lot as well. Uxie could be leaving UU , but Dusknoir, Smeargle, Electivire, Umbreon,and Hippowdon could be coming. Smeargle, Electivire, and Umbreon (and Ninjask for that matter) are "n00b Pokemon", meaning they're not very good but a lot of people like using them anyway. Said people usually don't play on suspect, so their drop in usage is more due to that than Salamence. Last edited by LunaOrangeCrush; Jun 7th, 2010 at 7:12:08 PM. Reason: Incomplete quote