Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - August 2010 - Page 6

IcyMan28 · Sep 9th, 2010, 8:32:33 PM

Staraptor is really an underrated threat. 85/70 defense isn't that bad, especially with Intimidate, and it has perfect coverage (minus Rotom) with Return/Brave Bird/Close Combat. That leaves the 4th slot open for Roost/U-Turn, both of which work well with Spin support.

lordkira · Sep 9th, 2010, 9:21:52 PM

what the crap gallade!?
gallade at 50th is actually surprising

Spenstar · Sep 9th, 2010, 10:22:06 PM

guys, ever look at the very bottom of the statistics and see what kind of bullshit is used in one battle in the month? I know it's only one use, but why the fuck would those guys even see that one use? I just find it odd is all.

And why did more people lead with Magikarp than Garchomp? O_O

Veedrock · Sep 9th, 2010, 10:46:51 PM

Garchomp is completely outclassed by Groudon as a lead.

sharkz · Sep 9th, 2010, 10:47:35 PM

Magikarp still goin strong huh. Not too sure about a chomp lead...

EDIT: Ninja'd
DOUBLE EDIT: 100 post lol

-Manaphy-- · Sep 9th, 2010, 10:54:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Spenstar

guys, ever look at the very bottom of the statistics and see what kind of bullshit is used in one battle in the month? I know it's only one use, but why the fuck would those guys even see that one use? I just find it odd is all.

And why did more people lead with Magikarp than Garchomp? O_O

A lot of people tend to fuck around in Ubers, especially with leads.

eXeggutoraped · Sep 10th, 2010, 2:26:04 AM

heatran and scizor are gyarados set-up bait, scarf gengar has lightning bolt, mystery solved?

verycoolguy · Sep 10th, 2010, 11:03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat IcyMan28

Staraptor is really an underrated threat. 85/70 defense isn't that bad, especially with Intimidate, and it has perfect coverage (minus Rotom) with Return/Brave Bird/Close Combat. That leaves the 4th slot open for Roost/U-Turn, both of which work well with Spin support.

If I used LO Staraptor, I don't really see much reason to use Return. Return doesn't really offer anything other than a neutral hit against Zapdos. For many other things, I think Quick Attack would be more useful to at least finish off severely weakened Pokemon who are faster. I'd rather go Roost instead of U-Turn, because Staraptor takes so much residual damage from LO, Sand, Brave Bird, and Stealth Rock if you don't have a Spinner, and sometimes the opponent would bring in a priority user to finish off what could have been a weakened Pokemon.
Zapdos can still be dealt with by Tyranitar, who also deals with Rotom.

scarloc · Sep 10th, 2010, 11:52:15 AM

few now use salamence in uber. metagross and lucario are used more than him. but he does have higher speed than raqyquaza and when used with him, for and effe3ctive startergy. anyway, thanks doug

master3669 · Sep 10th, 2010, 12:11:56 PM

wow, looks like scizor is used more in Ubers than in OU....heatran is expected to reach 35% before black and white

Uncommon Madness · Sep 10th, 2010, 12:27:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DougJustDoug

137 | Skuntank | 64 | 0.05

That's definately me: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78446

Skuntank lead FTW.

Xav · Sep 11th, 2010, 12:29:03 AM

Lickilicky should be seeing more usage, only 0.42 percent . It is an excellent and unexpected wallbreaker. Thanks for the stats Doug, will definitely used when making my next team.

yiran · Sep 11th, 2010, 2:17:11 AM

...When is Heatran going down.

When there will be a Ground Priority move.

Or you just trick Choice Band onto it.

mtr · Sep 11th, 2010, 4:24:01 PM

Staraptor used to be totally overshadowed by Salamence, and still is kinda overshadowed by Gyarados, but is now a great Pokemon, especially in the new metagame with fewer Steels to resist its attacks.

**AccidentalGreed** · Sep 11th, 2010, 5:40:13 PM

Staraptor fares decently well in the OU metagame; Machamp fears Brave Bird, and few Pokemon resist Fighting/Flying type coverage. Problem Pokemon are Infernape and Starmie and Jolteon, so a pivot for them will suffice. Recently, a Life Orb Staraptor has gone on site as well. Surprisingly effective.

Also, Magikarp? At least have the dignity to use Luvdisc :P I mean, look at it. It has higher stats, Swift Swim with higher speed to abuse it, learns everything Magikarp does, and more movepool than it.

Spenstar · Sep 11th, 2010, 6:29:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat AccidentalGreed

Staraptor fares decently well in the OU metagame; Machamp fears Brave Bird, and few Pokemon resist Fighting/Flying type coverage. Problem Pokemon are Infernape and Starmie and Jolteon, so a pivot for them will suffice. Recently, a Life Orb Staraptor has gone on site as well. Surprisingly effective.

Also, Magikarp? At least have the dignity to use Luvdisc :P I mean, look at it. It has higher stats, Swift Swim with higher speed to abuse it, learns everything Magikarp does, and more movepool than it.

If you're using Magikarp, you either don't CARE about competitive value, or you want to use the weakest Pokemon you can find.

AerialLight · Sep 12th, 2010, 2:23:15 PM

Who would want to use Spinda as a lead? And yet it saw 134 usages...

**Arcticblast** · Sep 12th, 2010, 2:36:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat AerialLight

Who would want to use Spinda as a lead? And yet it saw 134 usages...

Because Spinda's a badass who can use Trick Room, Hypnosis, etc.

manav95 · Sep 12th, 2010, 3:01:28 PM

Thanks slave Doug anyway is Heracross tearing apart the UU metagame yet?

Random Rider · Sep 12th, 2010, 10:51:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat manav95

Thanks slave Doug anyway is Heracross tearing apart the UU metagame yet?

It is still banned on Shoddy Battle. I can imagine it is doing very well on wifi matches though.

leenco12 · Sep 13th, 2010, 5:43:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Fried Rhys

Flygon almost in the top 10. good stuff

Gengar is number 3 and Flygon almost in the 10. Thanks for the stats Doug.

yiran · Oct 6th, 2010, 9:32:18 AM

...This thread is slow. Anyways, excited to see new results (pokemon lab or shoddy battle?)

PenguinKnight · Oct 9th, 2010, 6:04:18 AM

Are the September stats canceled because of B/W release o.O Cause it's usually out by the 9th day of the month

Farukon_o_miru · Oct 9th, 2010, 7:18:46 AM

I am anxious for seing how of used is Heracross in UU, but i can understand if the September stats were canceled/delayed for the release of B&W.

Gazooki · Oct 9th, 2010, 7:37:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat AerialLight

Who would want to use Spinda as a lead? And yet it saw 134 usages...

The sad part is that I know who used Spinda those 134 times, and it was just 2 people. Spinda doesn't get anywhere near enough love.

Sep 9th, 2010, 8:32:33 PM	#126
IcyMan28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,793	Staraptor is really an underrated threat. 85/70 defense isn't that bad, especially with Intimidate, and it has perfect coverage (minus Rotom) with Return/Brave Bird/Close Combat. That leaves the 4th slot open for Roost/U-Turn, both of which work well with Spin support. __________________ In-Game Name: Anthony FC: 3309 2165 3231 I use legal hacks.

Sep 9th, 2010, 10:22:06 PM	#128
Spenstar Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,138 New York	guys, ever look at the very bottom of the statistics and see what kind of bullshit is used in one battle in the month? I know it's only one use, but why the fuck would those guys even see that one use? I just find it odd is all. And why did more people lead with Magikarp than Garchomp? O_O __________________ My team of awesome! 22:20 Terrador wow 22:21 Terrador You just found a use for Rage. 22:21 Terrador Congratulations. 22:21 Spenstar yes, yes I did 8) 22:21 UllarWarlord applause

Sep 9th, 2010, 10:46:51 PM	#129
Veedrock Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,777 Location: Alaska, USA Occupation: Gamer Gamerscore: 84319	Garchomp is completely outclassed by Groudon as a lead. __________________ Now playing: Minecraft, Street Fighter x Tekken

Sep 11th, 2010, 12:29:03 AM	#137
Xav Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 785	Lickilicky should be seeing more usage, only 0.42 percent . It is an excellent and unexpected wallbreaker. Thanks for the stats Doug, will definitely used when making my next team. __________________ resists all but temptation.

Sep 11th, 2010, 2:17:11 AM	#138
yiran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 282 :3	...When is Heatran going down. When there will be a Ground Priority move. Or you just trick Choice Band onto it. __________________ 雪花凋零残冰飞落随波逝

Sep 9th, 2010, 9:21:52 PM	#127
lordkira Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 994 won't	what the crap gallade!? gallade at 50th is actually surprising

Sep 9th, 2010, 10:47:35 PM	#130
sharkz Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 553	Magikarp still goin strong huh. Not too sure about a chomp lead... EDIT: Ninja'd DOUBLE EDIT: 100 post lol

Sep 10th, 2010, 2:26:04 AM	#132
eXeggutoraped Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 51 melbourne, australia	heatran and scizor are gyarados set-up bait, scarf gengar has lightning bolt, mystery solved?

Sep 10th, 2010, 12:11:56 PM	#135
master3669 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7	wow, looks like scizor is used more in Ubers than in OU....heatran is expected to reach 35% before black and white

Sep 11th, 2010, 4:24:01 PM	#139
mtr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754	Staraptor used to be totally overshadowed by Salamence, and still is kinda overshadowed by Gyarados, but is now a great Pokemon, especially in the new metagame with fewer Steels to resist its attacks. __________________ Huehuehue

Sep 11th, 2010, 5:40:13 PM	#140
AccidentalGreed I'll bite off your kneecaps if I ever see a super long post or wall of text. Seriously. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,035 California	Staraptor fares decently well in the OU metagame; Machamp fears Brave Bird, and few Pokemon resist Fighting/Flying type coverage. Problem Pokemon are Infernape and Starmie and Jolteon, so a pivot for them will suffice. Recently, a Life Orb Staraptor has gone on site as well. Surprisingly effective. Also, Magikarp? At least have the dignity to use Luvdisc :P I mean, look at it. It has higher stats, Swift Swim with higher speed to abuse it, learns everything Magikarp does, and more movepool than it. __________________

Sep 12th, 2010, 2:23:15 PM	#142
AerialLight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 35	Who would want to use Spinda as a lead? And yet it saw 134 usages...

Sep 12th, 2010, 3:01:28 PM	#144
manav95 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 387 i live in uhhhh somewhere	Thanks slave Doug anyway is Heracross tearing apart the UU metagame yet?

Oct 6th, 2010, 9:32:18 AM	#147
yiran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 282 :3	...This thread is slow. Anyways, excited to see new results (pokemon lab or shoddy battle?) __________________ 雪花凋零残冰飞落随波逝

Oct 9th, 2010, 6:04:18 AM	#148
PenguinKnight Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 25 Singapore	Are the September stats canceled because of B/W release o.O Cause it's usually out by the 9th day of the month

Oct 9th, 2010, 7:18:46 AM	#149
Farukon_o_miru Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 76	I am anxious for seing how of used is Heracross in UU, but i can understand if the September stats were canceled/delayed for the release of B&W. __________________ English isn't my first language, but I make the effort to write it well. Please excuse my gramatical errors.