Teddiursa as an antilead?

Wisher · Sep 9th, 2010, 1:36:19 PM

So far I have been using this set up:

Teddiursa (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Quick Feet
EVs: 36 HP / 196 Atk / 36 Def / 196 Spe / 36 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Crunch / Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Protect

It seems to work pretty well. Quick feet allows Teddi to reach 21 speed, and Facade does a ton of damage with the Toxic Orb. He protects against the fake-out leads, uses Fire punch if Snover is a problem, and Earthquakes on annoying steels like Aron. Is there another more effective anti-lead I'm missing, or is this the best way? Obviously he doesn't last very long, but he's faster than Taillow and more often than not puts me at a 6-5 advantage.

iss · Sep 9th, 2010, 2:11:33 PM

Should be posted in here. Teddy does seem like an intresting anti-lead though. I'd use Facade/Close Combat/Crunch, as CC has the coverage of EQ as well as OHKOing Snover. You are kinda screwed over by Scarf leads, but those are rather rare.

Optimusje · Sep 9th, 2010, 2:17:09 PM

Also getting screwed over by focus sash I suppose, althought raw power can make up for this.

I'd actually rather use this as a midgame mon or even lategame sweeper. I'll try it out.

Ice-eyes · Sep 9th, 2010, 3:54:51 PM

Yeah, it could be an impressive late-game sweeper. It has a lot less power than Taillow, though. I'd like to see calcs.

Dubulous · Sep 9th, 2010, 4:03:32 PM

This thread isn't going to generate very much discussion. As iss pointed out, post new sets that you come up with in the appropriate thread.

Sep 9th, 2010, 1:36:19 PM	#1
Wisher Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 10	Teddiursa as an antilead? So far I have been using this set up: Teddiursa (M) @ Toxic Orb Trait: Quick Feet EVs: 36 HP / 196 Atk / 36 Def / 196 Spe / 36 SDef Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Facade - Crunch / Fire Punch - Earthquake - Protect It seems to work pretty well. Quick feet allows Teddi to reach 21 speed, and Facade does a ton of damage with the Toxic Orb. He protects against the fake-out leads, uses Fire punch if Snover is a problem, and Earthquakes on annoying steels like Aron. Is there another more effective anti-lead I'm missing, or is this the best way? Obviously he doesn't last very long, but he's faster than Taillow and more often than not puts me at a 6-5 advantage.

Sep 9th, 2010, 2:11:33 PM	#2
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,980 sirndpt <3	Should be posted in here. Teddy does seem like an intresting anti-lead though. I'd use Facade/Close Combat/Crunch, as CC has the coverage of EQ as well as OHKOing Snover. You are kinda screwed over by Scarf leads, but those are rather rare. __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan ~CHINCHOUS~

Sep 9th, 2010, 2:17:09 PM	#3
Optimusje Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 896 Occupation: Walker	Also getting screwed over by focus sash I suppose, althought raw power can make up for this. I'd actually rather use this as a midgame mon or even lategame sweeper. I'll try it out. __________________ #webfoot Pokemon Closet Players [18:14:20] <~forks> conquering these crippling insecurities of mine, and whatnot [18:14:21] <~forks> so that [18:14:27] <~forks> i will get fewer fucks

Sep 9th, 2010, 3:54:51 PM	#4
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Sep 9th, 2010, 4:03:32 PM	#5
Dubulous raidical Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,109 Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.	This thread isn't going to generate very much discussion. As iss pointed out, post new sets that you come up with in the appropriate thread. __________________ And today will be better than yesterday.