Stunfisk - Page 5

TorchicBlaziken · Apr 18th, 2011, 7:30:45 PM

That's why you use a non-contact move on wild Stunfisk.

xero_k · Apr 19th, 2011, 2:28:42 AM

Derp face combined with a creepy smile/ snicker/ soul-stealing grin animation... it's design... yeah... evil.
Might use it just for that.

Missingno. Master · Apr 22nd, 2011, 10:17:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TorchicBlaziken

That's why you use a non-contact move on wild Stunfisk.

Well, when you're EV training a Skarmory you transferred over that already knows Whirlwind, Brave Bird, Spikes, and Roost, your options are kinda limited. God, that was hell.

Sphyxius · May 18th, 2011, 8:52:15 PM

why is Earth Power not listed on any of the sets??? according to serebii it gets it...

b2j135 · May 20th, 2011, 4:04:56 PM

Sets I think my new favorite ground type might like
Derp/Troll - fisk
Stunfisk @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Sand Veil Ability
Quiet Nature
164 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 92 Sp.Def
- Scald / Muddy Water
- Mud Slap/ Mud Bomb
- Thunderbolt / Discharge
- Pain Split

^ First of all ; completely take "Using Stunfisk in OU to be surprising" out of the picture. Ok, This is mainly an annoyer/troll for UU/NU Battling. Choose "Scald" if you would like to burn and lower attack [*Cough Toxiccroak and Ambipom Cough*] , Muddy Water can lower the opponents accuracy -sometimes. Mud Slap ALWAYS lowers accuracy each time it hits, power it up a little with life orb, Thunderbolt is a solid Stab move and Discharge is another Stab move but has a bigger chance of paralyzing but lower base power. You can you it in a sand storm team to increase evasion more.

Spartafisk
Stunfisk @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Brave Nature
Static Ability
164 HP / 220 Atk / 84 Sp.Def / 40 Def
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Payback / Bounce
- Pain Split / Revenge

^ Same as the last first sentence but overall, Stunny can Curse him up to take some bulk, Earthquake for a decent STAB move. A Brave nature can raise his attack and lower speed = good for payback to work good. Bounce is just a filler gimmick to attack and give the opponent a chance of getting paralyzed. If you want SOME chance of healing go for pain split, if you want to try and endure attacks and hit back go with revenge.

Axa · May 21st, 2011, 12:35:18 AM

Just an aside, but Scald won't work on Toxicroak anyway since any Toxicroak worth their salt is running Dry Skin.

Flycune · Jul 26th, 2011, 2:09:00 AM

My Stunfisk solo'd a Salamence a little while ago

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bearsfan092 · Jul 26th, 2011, 8:03:05 AM

Honestly, no one cares. You just got lucky with hax.

Sighhh · Jul 26th, 2011, 11:39:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Seth Vilo

So that's how Whiscash gets Spark!!

The thing I love most is the "WTF" mature. I think it may have a similar use in the lower use as Dunsparce - to garnish as many "cool points" during a battle as possible while simply having fun. It's awesome how it gets nearly every status move (thank you Boiling Water), as well as (un)reliable healing in Pain Split. While I don't think it'll see much use, those who do deserve awesomeness points for sure.

BTW:

Lol. Agreed.

WeezingFTW · Jul 27th, 2011, 10:52:35 AM

Stunfisk
@Leftovers
Ability: Static
Bold Nature
252 HP /200 Def/58 Sp.Def

Thunderbolt
Pain split
Yawn/ hp ice
Boiling water

I've used this set from the OP on PO for a while and it's done alright. It takes hits fairly well, I mean, a V-Create from Victini only does around half and sometimes Static kicks in which is hilarious. And it lives a lot of super effective special moves, usually from defensive mons though. Pain Split hasn't really been all that great but with Yawn forcing switches pretty much every damn time I use it, it has a lot of chances to get it off at least. This is definitely the moveset I wanna run on this guy for now but I've had a really tough time deciding whether to use a physically or specially defensive spread. So far, this one is fine.

**Molk** · Jul 28th, 2011, 5:52:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat WeezingFTW

Stunfisk
@Leftovers
Ability: Static
Bold Nature
252 HP /200 Def/58 Sp.Def

Thunderbolt
Pain split
Yawn/ hp ice
Boiling water

I've used this set from the OP on PO for a while and it's done alright. It takes hits fairly well, I mean, a V-Create from Victini only does around half and sometimes Static kicks in which is hilarious. And it lives a lot of super effective special moves, usually from defensive mons though. Pain Split hasn't really been all that great but with Yawn forcing switches pretty much every damn time I use it, it has a lot of chances to get it off at least. This is definitely the moveset I wanna run on this guy for now but I've had a really tough time deciding whether to use a physically or specially defensive spread. So far, this one is fine.

I have used the above set and it is no joke (at least performance wise JUST LOOK AT IT!). It is a great phazer/statuser and it can take hits very well. I'd say keep it the way it is.

Joel · Jul 29th, 2011, 10:31:48 AM

This thing could be a great wall, if not for having 4 weaknesses, 3 of which are common (Ground, Water, and Ice).

Why not go a simple route and remove the common weaknesses?

Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SpDef
Moveset:
-Camouflage
-Discharge/Mud Slap
-Yawn/Scald/Toxic
-Pain Split

Camouflage on the opponents switch to reduce weaknesses to only Fighting. STAB won't matter, but Discharge is there anyways for 30% chance of paralyses. Mud Slap could also be used if you want to chance accuracy drops and run an annoyer set with Toxic or Scald.

Scald, Toxic or Yawn to spread more status problems.

Pain Split to attempt to recover lost HP.

melvni · Jul 29th, 2011, 2:46:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Joel

This thing could be a great wall, if not for having 4 weaknesses, 3 of which are common (Ground, Water, and Ice).

Why not go a simple route and remove the common weaknesses?

Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SpDef
Moveset:
-Camouflage
-Discharge/Mud Slap
-Yawn/Scald/Toxic
-Pain Split

Camouflage on the opponents switch to reduce weaknesses to only Fighting. STAB won't matter, but Discharge is there anyways for 30% chance of paralyses. Mud Slap could also be used if you want to chance accuracy drops and run an annoyer set with Toxic or Scald.

Scald, Toxic or Yawn to spread more status problems.

Pain Split to attempt to recover lost HP.

This would be potentially a good idea, but unfortunately...

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Originally Posted by Fat Research Thread

Confirmed Camouflage now changes the user's type to Ground in Wi-Fi battles(TheMaskedNitpicker)

Joel · Jul 29th, 2011, 3:22:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat melvni

This would be potentially a good idea, but unfortunately...

>_< TrollFreak strikes again.

WeezingFTW · Jul 29th, 2011, 3:50:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Joel

This thing could be a great wall, if not for having 4 weaknesses, 3 of which are common (Ground, Water, and Ice).

Why not go a simple route and remove the common weaknesses?

Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SpDef
Moveset:
-Camouflage
-Discharge/Mud Slap
-Yawn/Scald/Toxic
-Pain Split

Just curious about the EV spread, why 188 HP? Is it a Lefties number or something?

**Molk** · Jul 29th, 2011, 7:44:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat WeezingFTW

Just curious about the EV spread, why 188 HP? Is it a Lefties number or something?

I dont get it either bro. I dont think its a Lefties number correct me if i am wrong

Joel · Jul 29th, 2011, 10:25:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat WeezingFTW

Just curious about the EV spread, why 188 HP? Is it a Lefties number or something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat MoltenKyurem

I dont get it either bro. I dont think its a Lefties number correct me if i am wrong

When I typed that, Camouflage seemed like a good Ideal, and I thought it would have been weak only to fighting types. Most fighting type movies are physical, so i wanted more Def bulk than SpDef bulk.

That, and I borrowed one of the spreads in the OP.

WeezingFTW · Jul 30th, 2011, 5:31:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Joel

When I typed that, Camouflage seemed like a good Ideal, and I thought it would have been weak only to fighting types. Most fighting type movies are physical, so i wanted more Def bulk than SpDef bulk.

That, and I borrowed one of the spreads in the OP.

If you wanted more Def bulk why move EV's from HP to Sp.D..But ok, since you borrowed it, only the spread maker can tell.

Chimera404 · Nov 27th, 2011, 7:24:31 PM

After completely wrecking a Sandstorm team using NOTHING but Stunfisk (My opponent quit after I took out Tyranitar, Rotom-W, and Scizor) I am convinced that the following set has a decent amount of competitive potential:

Stunfisk (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Protect
- Substitute
- Toxic

This set is never 4hkO'd by CB Scizor's Bullet Punch (21-22%), which means that it goes well with anything that cannot take a hit from it. It can defeat most Tyranitar and Ninetales and can PPstall out Scarfed Rotom-W's Hydro Pump. Static paralyzes physical attackers, Toxic is for residual damage, and Scald can burn for triple status infliction.

EV Spread Explanation:
252 HP and SDef for special bulk, then 4 in SAtk because I like that extra offensive power.

Moveset Explanation:
Scald to burn and do a bit of damage to anything that already carries a status.
Toxic to hit those who either cannot be burned or need to be killed faster.
Substitute to aid PP stall.
Protect to aid PP stall.

Usage Explanation:

Send it in on pokemon such as Scizor or T-tar, or even Ninetales, and either substitute or hit it with toxic/scald. If the opponent switches while a substitute is up, hit it with status again.

Hell, if it can sweep a Sandstorm team right off the bat, it deserves some recognition.

**Molk** · Nov 27th, 2011, 7:29:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Chimera404

After completely wrecking a Sandstorm team using NOTHING but Stunfisk (My opponent quit after I took out Tyranitar, Rotom-W, and Scizor) I am convinced that the following set has a decent amount of competitive potential:

Stunfisk (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Protect
- Substitute
- Toxic

This set is never 4hkO'd by CB Scizor's Bullet Punch (21-22%), which means that it goes well with anything that cannot take a hit from it. It can defeat most Tyranitar and Ninetales and can PPstall out Scarfed Rotom-W's Hydro Pump. Static paralyzes physical attackers, Toxic is for residual damage, and Scald can burn for triple status infliction.

EV Spread Explanation:
252 HP and SDef for special bulk, then 4 in SAtk because I like that extra offensive power.

Moveset Explanation:
Scald to burn and do a bit of damage to anything that already carries a status.
Toxic to hit those who either cannot be burned or need to be killed faster.
Substitute to aid PP stall.
Protect to aid PP stall.

Usage Explanation:

Send it in on pokemon such as Scizor or T-tar, or even Ninetales, and either substitute or hit it with toxic/scald. If the opponent switches while a substitute is up, hit it with status again.

Hell, if it can sweep a Sandstorm team right off the bat, it deserves some recognition.

as the writer of the in progress stunfisk analysis i will just say that this has literally nothing over a restalk set. restalk or specs are the best ways to go with stunfisk (maybe curse) you are walled by pokemon with water absorb and waters in general.

Tenodera · Nov 27th, 2011, 7:31:50 PM

I think that's probably one of the better things Stunfisk can do, but I doubt it could beat Scizor regularly. Wouldn't most of them simply Bug Bite or U-Turn instead of Bullet Punch, and with no Defense investment that's going to hurt. Also, Ninetales may decide to Will o' Wisp, which would kill your staying power.

That battle sounds fairly hilarious though and would be impressive if the opponent was playing well too.

**Molk** · Nov 27th, 2011, 7:33:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Tenodera

I think that's probably one of the better things Stunfisk can do, but I doubt it could beat Scizor regularly. Wouldn't most of them simply Bug Bite or U-Turn instead of Bullet Punch, and with no Defense investment that's going to hurt. Also, Ninetales may decide to Will o' Wisp, which would kill your staying power.

That battle sounds fairly hilarious though and would be impressive if the opponent was playing well too.

this is what i mean, stunfisk is better off pulling off a defensive restalk set, which removes damage and status.

Apr 19th, 2011, 2:28:42 AM	#102
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May 20th, 2011, 4:04:56 PM	#105
b2j135 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 258 C-City	Sets I think my new favorite ground type might like Derp/Troll - fisk Stunfisk @ Leftovers / Life Orb Sand Veil Ability Quiet Nature 164 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 92 Sp.Def - Scald / Muddy Water - Mud Slap/ Mud Bomb - Thunderbolt / Discharge - Pain Split ^ First of all ; completely take "Using Stunfisk in OU to be surprising" out of the picture. Ok, This is mainly an annoyer/troll for UU/NU Battling. Choose "Scald" if you would like to burn and lower attack [Cough Toxiccroak and Ambipom Cough] , Muddy Water can lower the opponents accuracy -sometimes. Mud Slap ALWAYS lowers accuracy each time it hits, power it up a little with life orb, Thunderbolt is a solid Stab move and Discharge is another Stab move but has a bigger chance of paralyzing but lower base power. You can you it in a sand storm team to increase evasion more. Spartafisk Stunfisk @ Leftovers / Life Orb Brave Nature Static Ability 164 HP / 220 Atk / 84 Sp.Def / 40 Def - Curse - Earthquake - Payback / Bounce - Pain Split / Revenge ^ Same as the last first sentence but overall, Stunny can Curse him up to take some bulk, Earthquake for a decent STAB move. A Brave nature can raise his attack and lower speed = good for payback to work good. Bounce is just a filler gimmick to attack and give the opponent a chance of getting paralyzed. If you want SOME chance of healing go for pain split, if you want to try and endure attacks and hit back go with revenge. __________________ Black 2: 2151-5964-8727 (Add this one) No Unreleased Dream World Pokemon. Standard rules+use as many items as you want but only one focus sash a team. I use Legal hacks so they are allowed when battling me. My Chat & My Channel

Jul 26th, 2011, 2:09:00 AM	#107
Flycune Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 17	My Stunfisk solo'd a Salamence a little while ago ... Start of turn 4 The foe's Sableye used Trick! The foe's Sableye switched items with Stunfisk! The foe's Sableye obtained one Leftovers! Stunfisk obtained one Lagging Tail! Stunfisk used Discharge! The foe's Sableye lost 41% of its health! The foe's Sableye restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 [Mystery] called Sableye back! [Mystery] sent out Chansey! Stunfisk used Discharge! The foe's Chansey lost 9% of its health! Start of turn 6 The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Stunfisk lost 100 HP! (23% of its health) Stunfisk's Static activates! The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Stunfisk used Substitute! Stunfisk made a substitute! Start of turn 7 The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Stunfisk's substitute took the damage! Stunfisk used Swagger! The foe's Chansey's Attack sharply rose! The foe's Chansey became confused! Start of turn 8 [Mystery] called Chansey back! [Mystery] sent out Salamence! Stunfisk's substitute suppressed the foe's Salamence's Intimidate! Stunfisk used Discharge! The foe's Salamence lost 35% of its health! The foe's Salamence is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The foe's Salamence restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 9 The foe's Salamence is paralyzed! It can't move! Stunfisk used Swagger! The attack of Stunfisk missed! The foe's Salamence restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 10 The foe's Salamence used Earthquake! It's super effective! Stunfisk's substitute faded! Stunfisk used Swagger! The foe's Salamence's Attack sharply rose! The foe's Salamence became confused! The foe's Salamence restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 11 [Mystery] called Salamence back! [Mystery] sent out Chansey! Stunfisk used Substitute! Stunfisk made a substitute! Start of turn 12 The foe's Chansey used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! Stunfisk used Yawn! Stunfisk made the foe's Chansey feel drowsy! Start of turn 13 [Mystery] called Chansey back! [Mystery] sent out Salamence! Stunfisk's substitute suppressed the foe's Salamence's Intimidate! Stunfisk used Swagger! The foe's Salamence's Attack sharply rose! The foe's Salamence became confused! The foe's Salamence restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 14 The foe's Salamence is confused! It hurt itself in its confusion! The foe's Salamence lost 29% of its health! Stunfisk used Discharge! The foe's Salamence lost 33% of its health! The foe's Salamence restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 The foe's Salamence is confused! It hurt itself in its confusion! The foe's Salamence lost 29% of its health! Stunfisk used Discharge! The foe's Salamence lost 3% of its health! The foe's Salamence fainted! __________________ FlyCune

Jul 26th, 2011, 8:03:05 AM	#108
bearsfan092 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,048 Yoomtah!	Honestly, no one cares. You just got lucky with hax. __________________ Black FC: 3954 7943 2104 Diamond FC: 1590 6595 3602 RNG Abuse Tutorial Videos and Wifi Battle Videos-Now with revamped videos for current software Say what? Bears has a trade thread again?

Jul 27th, 2011, 10:52:35 AM	#110
WeezingFTW Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 182	Stunfisk @Leftovers Ability: Static Bold Nature 252 HP /200 Def/58 Sp.Def Thunderbolt Pain split Yawn/ hp ice Boiling water I've used this set from the OP on PO for a while and it's done alright. It takes hits fairly well, I mean, a V-Create from Victini only does around half and sometimes Static kicks in which is hilarious. And it lives a lot of super effective special moves, usually from defensive mons though. Pain Split hasn't really been all that great but with Yawn forcing switches pretty much every damn time I use it, it has a lot of chances to get it off at least. This is definitely the moveset I wanna run on this guy for now but I've had a really tough time deciding whether to use a physically or specially defensive spread. So far, this one is fine. __________________ Black FC: 3224 8556 3823 SoulSilver FC: 3009 1074 2382 (always use this for 4th gen business unless I tell you not to) Platinum FC: 3051 5366 2606

Apr 18th, 2011, 7:30:45 PM	#101
TorchicBlaziken Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,225 Use sunscreen!	That's why you use a non-contact move on wild Stunfisk.

May 18th, 2011, 8:52:15 PM	#104
Sphyxius Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 147	why is Earth Power not listed on any of the sets??? according to serebii it gets it...

May 21st, 2011, 12:35:18 AM	#106
Axa Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 355	Just an aside, but Scald won't work on Toxicroak anyway since any Toxicroak worth their salt is running Dry Skin.

Jul 29th, 2011, 10:31:48 AM	#112
Joel Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,207	This thing could be a great wall, if not for having 4 weaknesses, 3 of which are common (Ground, Water, and Ice). Why not go a simple route and remove the common weaknesses? Stunfisk @ Leftovers Ability: Static Nature: Bold EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SpDef Moveset: -Camouflage -Discharge/Mud Slap -Yawn/Scald/Toxic -Pain Split Camouflage on the opponents switch to reduce weaknesses to only Fighting. STAB won't matter, but Discharge is there anyways for 30% chance of paralyses. Mud Slap could also be used if you want to chance accuracy drops and run an annoyer set with Toxic or Scald. Scald, Toxic or Yawn to spread more status problems. Pain Split to attempt to recover lost HP. __________________ Pokemon Showdown Name: "Joel" (Peaked at: 1745 / OU Standard) Pokemon Online Name: "James Bondage" (Peaked at: 1351 / WiFi OU Tier) I also occasionally do wifi battles. Last edited by Joel; Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:14:56 AM.

Nov 27th, 2011, 7:24:31 PM	#119
Chimera404 Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 70	Stunfisk Sweep After completely wrecking a Sandstorm team using NOTHING but Stunfisk (My opponent quit after I took out Tyranitar, Rotom-W, and Scizor) I am convinced that the following set has a decent amount of competitive potential: Stunfisk (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Static EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Scald - Protect - Substitute - Toxic This set is never 4hkO'd by CB Scizor's Bullet Punch (21-22%), which means that it goes well with anything that cannot take a hit from it. It can defeat most Tyranitar and Ninetales and can PPstall out Scarfed Rotom-W's Hydro Pump. Static paralyzes physical attackers, Toxic is for residual damage, and Scald can burn for triple status infliction. EV Spread Explanation: 252 HP and SDef for special bulk, then 4 in SAtk because I like that extra offensive power. Moveset Explanation: Scald to burn and do a bit of damage to anything that already carries a status. Toxic to hit those who either cannot be burned or need to be killed faster. Substitute to aid PP stall. Protect to aid PP stall. Usage Explanation: Send it in on pokemon such as Scizor or T-tar, or even Ninetales, and either substitute or hit it with toxic/scald. If the opponent switches while a substitute is up, hit it with status again. Hell, if it can sweep a Sandstorm team right off the bat, it deserves some recognition.

Nov 27th, 2011, 7:31:50 PM	#121
Tenodera Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 389 Ambassador for the Most High.	I think that's probably one of the better things Stunfisk can do, but I doubt it could beat Scizor regularly. Wouldn't most of them simply Bug Bite or U-Turn instead of Bullet Punch, and with no Defense investment that's going to hurt. Also, Ninetales may decide to Will o' Wisp, which would kill your staying power. That battle sounds fairly hilarious though and would be impressive if the opponent was playing well too. __________________ John 14:6 REGIGIGAS is so CUTE. My wifi occasionally acts up, but that's the only reason you'll see me disconnect. ;)