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Dec 1st, 2012, 11:40:12 AM
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Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
      
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November 2012 OU Stats
Praise be to Antar
OU Stats
OU Suspect
OU Moveset Stats OU Suspect Moveset Stats Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
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Yay! Been waiting for these. Looks like Scizors back to being the bully in the block now that Genesect was shipped of to prison. Keldeo overtook Terrakion which is somewhat surprising but not all that much with all the rain going on. Also I was expecting higher usage from Garchomp and Landorus. Now to spend the next couple of hours looking at the moveset stats.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 11:57:13 AM
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Ah yes, more stats to entertain me.
My Thoughts on Standard Stats: | 1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652% | He really enjoyed his final month in OU... | 7 | Garchomp | 116907 | 13.166% | 88980 | 12.413% | Considering I hardly see this thing this is quite impressive. | 19 | Cloyster | 80782 | 9.098% | 62684 | 8.745% | Woah....How did this suddenly get popular. | 22 | Infernape | 74958 | 8.442% | 61125 | 8.527% | Lol...It's as though Infernape is Scrafty 2.0. People want it to drop. | 26 | Skarmory | 62975 | 7.092% | 53645 | 7.484% | | 27 | Blissey | 62021 | 6.985% | 48770 | 6.804% | Interesting to see these two right next to each other in the stats. | 29 | Tornadus-Therian | 60712 | 6.837% | 47474 | 6.623% | You all sicken me. | 39 | Landorus | 50447 | 5.681% | 39079 | 5.452% | | 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% | Oh gee...Looks as though Keldeo and Landorus are being underestimated. I need to fix this low usage of two amazing mons in OU. | 45 | Kyurem-Black | 44884 | 5.055% | 34117 | 4.760% | Huh. Considering I hardly see this this is decent usage. | 46 | Metagross | 43545 | 4.904% | 35716 | 4.983% | *sigh*...Some things just never change, do they? | 50 | Landorus-Therian | 37511 | 4.224% | 31606 | 4.409% | Okay. This is better than last month for sure. But yeah...low usage. Looks as though Landorus-I has gotten the crowd. | 51 | Reuniclus | 36184 | 4.075% | 28095 | 3.919% | Why so low? | 54 | Chansey | 34380 | 3.872% | 27563 | 3.845% | Stop using this thing, please. Chansey is without a doubt the worst Pokemon in OU. Sure, it has the bulk of God himself, but its offensive presence is zero. It cannot do ANY damage to the things it is supposed to wall, and since it has no Leftovers, it is easily worn down by net damage. It also provides free setup for any setup sweeper simply because it is powerless. So yeah, overall, it's a truly pathetic Pokemon. Please stop using it. I'll gladly trade having P2 in OU over Chansey. P2 gladly trades doing nothing in favor of being able to trace abilities to wall Heatran and friends to no end, as well as having offensive presence. It's much better than Chansey. | 55 | Hippowdon | 31978 | 3.601% | 28649 | 3.997% | | 56 | Ninjask | 29912 | 3.369% | 27046 | 3.773% | | 57 | Abomasnow | 25809 | 2.907% | 23152 | 3.230% | These three are being underestimated badly. I better go fix this. | 69 | Xatu | 17778 | 2.002% | 14597 | 2.036% | Quite an underrated threat in OU, Xatu is on a decent rise in usage. It can fit on more teams than Espeon and thus is a great Pokemon. | 72 | Charizard | 16757 | 1.887% | 13471 | 1.879% | WHAT?! This exceeds legitimately good Pokemon like Scrafty and Swampert?! This is outrageous. I wonder who the hell is using Charizard in OU. | 88 | Electivire | 10895 | 1.227% | 8811 | 1.229% | | 91 | Whimsicott | 10642 | 1.198% | 8563 | 1.195% | *Screams*. These shitmons get 1% usage in OU! What is this shit?! | 93 | Stoutland | 10525 | 1.185% | 7910 | 1.104% | | 100 | Gothitelle | 8885 | 1.001% | 7162 | 0.999% | These two are outrageously low for good Pokemon. Gothitelle is a very good trapper, and once it traps something, it's hard to counter it. Stoutland is a great revenge killer and late-game cleaner in sand and needs at least 2% usage. Come on now. | 108 | Tornadus | 7992 | 0.900% | 6292 | 0.878% | | 109 | Virizion | 7797 | 0.878% | 6142 | 0.857% | Lol. These two, once popular, are now completely obsolete and fail to even get 1% usage. Lol.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 12:04:43 PM
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I am surprised hippowdon is still so low in the stats.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
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| 1 | Politoed | 4818 | 27.431% | 4425 | 30.230% | | 2 | Scizor | 3787 | 21.561% | 3130 | 21.383% | | 3 | Keldeo | 3556 | 20.246% | 2650 | 18.104% | | 4 | Terrakion | 3378 | 19.233% | 2792 | 19.074% | | 5 | Ferrothorn | 3173 | 18.065% | 2778 | 18.978% | | 6 | Jirachi | 3158 | 17.980% | 2655 | 18.138% | | 7 | Tornadus-Therian | 2918 | 16.614% | 2349 | 16.048% | | 8 | Latios | 2404 | 13.687% | 1939 | 13.247% | | 9 | Tyranitar | 2267 | 12.907% | 2025 | 13.834% | | 10 | Heatran | 2248 | 12.799% | 1934 | 13.212% | Code:
| 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% | | 19 | Cloyster | 80782 | 9.098% | 62684 | 8.745% |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
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If you compare the OU and OU suspect stats, I think this is the first time Suspect is more believable than regular OU. Genesect has just crushed so many things that they're just crashing to the bottom. I mean, look at Tornadus-T and Keldeo. In suspect, they're all at modest usage, Keldeo at a whopping #3 and Tornadus-T at #7. However, in reg OU they're pushed down to lower numbers. It's quite obvious who this is to blame.
I don't think there is much to be surprised at when looking at the reg OU stats, I mean it just really shows how fucked the tier was while Genesect was still here. A few great pokemon were really low in usage really only because Genesect beat them. The Therians are a really good example of this; both Thundurus-T almost doubled and Tornadus-T almost tripled in usage- since one of their main counters, Genesect stopped pushing them down. Some pokemon gained undeserved usage because of Genesect- the ever vigilant Infernape's usage in Regular OU doubled because of its ability to counter Genesect. Seriously, I never thought it would come to this. Here are some outrageous stats: Infernape Regular | 22 | Infernape | 74958 | 8.442% | 61125 | 8.527% | Infernape's outstanding ability to do just one thing- and that is to outspeed and kill Genesect- bought it its pretty top notch spot in the tier for a pokemon so ready to delve into UU. Suspect | 46 | Infernape | 764 | 4.350% | 642 | 4.386% | Why, is Infernape not used as much? Well, most of the things it does are done by other pokemon better. It used to be able to par with Terrakion, but now Terrakion is miles ahead in usage. Sadly, Nape is not so good anymore. Tornadus-T Regular | 29 | Tornadus-Therian | 60712 | 6.837% | 47474 | 6.623% | Poor Tornadus-T was just another smack on the list of things Genesect leeched its popularity off of. The poor bird couldn't get its lift up since the metal bug kept stomping on it- resulting in a crash into a spot even lower then the fire monkey. Suspect | 7 | Tornadus-Therian | 2918 | 16.614% | 2349 | 16.048% | In a Genesect-less environment, Tornadus really shined. In such a good spot on the list, it resumed its title as king of the sky- firing off powerful Hurricanes with its awesome base 121 speed. It had a wide movepool too, able to pivot and support at the same time. Keldeo Regular | 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% | Genesect wasn't the only one that trampled over this one, but it was one of the major ones. Keldeo struggled to set up with Genesect u-Turning all over the place, and was useless at stopping RP Genesect's Giga Drain aided sweep. Suspect | 3 | Keldeo | 3556 | 20.246% | 2650 | 18.104% | Keldeo is a huge displayer of what Genesect's affect really had on the tier. It jumped to #3 on the usage list, and for good reason. Its high speed and monstrous SpA and ability to work awesomely in Rain gave it its crown. If you want a more definitive view of the metagame, base your opinions on the Suspect List. If you want to feel great about banning Genesect, check out the Regular OU stats.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 1:06:35 PM
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| 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% | | 19 | Cloyster | 80782 | 9.098% | 62684 | 8.745% | Why do people hate on Cloyster so much? Keldeo's great and all, but so is Cloyster. With a great ability for its moveset and one of the best stat boosting moves in the game in Shell Smash, it's understandably viable as to why its usage is so high. |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 1:29:08 PM
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Dec 1st, 2012, 1:58:19 PM
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Dec 1st, 2012, 2:18:05 PM
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| 3 | Keldeo | 3556 | 20.246% | 2650 | 18.104% |
That is what i like to see, the best scarfer in OU bar none, the suspect stats show us once again they are the REAL OU stats. Keldeo arguably the most effective late game sweeper as well, given some little support, you throw in a Tyranitar and almost every keldeo counter is pursuit trapped.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 3:26:30 PM
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anyone else fidn it anoying cloyster is so high, despite being so predictible, weak to all hazards?
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Dec 1st, 2012, 5:24:25 PM
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Dec 1st, 2012, 6:56:15 PM
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Well, I'm not surprised that Genesect reached number one on the list. What I am surprised about is how he's only on 20% of all teams. Since he was kicked upstairs to Ubers before November ended I didn't expect too much, but damn.
As for Kyu-B reaching only number 45, I'm surprised. The thing plows through almost everything with a Choice Band. It can't set up for crap, but give it a Scarf or Band and it's like Deo-A for a few turns. Even just weakening the opposing Steel-types a little allows it to plow through even them. |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 7:35:55 PM
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| 19 | Cloyster | 80782 | 9.098% | 62684 | 8.745% | 34 | Vaporeon | 57613 | 6.488% | 45580 | 6.359% | 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 7:39:00 PM
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I've been experimenting with other alternatives to spin-blocking, but there aren't many options, really. Looks like Drizzle is definitely going to be the next suspect, and good riddance Genesect!
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Dec 1st, 2012, 8:02:14 PM
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2. Sableye. Prankster allows him to Taunt and do all kinds of fun shenanigans with a priority on status afflictions. 3. I dunno, maybe for Trick Room you could use Cofagrigus or Dusknoir, depending on the team comp for the Trick Room team in question. That said, a supermajority of non-Uber Ghost types are very mediocre, Gengar included. |
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:05:18 AM
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:12:20 AM
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And Ghost-types have Mismagius and Chandelure, too. But there's nothing that's easy to just slap on a team. At least, not until Shadow Tag comes out. |
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:34:14 AM
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Actually Bullet Punch from CB Scizor will never OHKO if Hazards are not up.
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:59:33 AM
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Speed Boost isn't broken, it's just incredibly good for sweepers. But Sharpedo and Ninjask are fine with it. For a better comparison, look a couple months back. Rough Skin Garchomp is now allowed, while Sand Veil is completely banned. You know that if Magikarp came out with Drizzle in a month, there'd have to be discussion of banning Magikarp. The problem isn't the Pokemon, it's the ability.
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:59:54 AM
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Seeing this comment gives me good evidence in my suspicions, anyone who's used the pink blobs knows that they have a really good niche in this game. No, they're not the best pokes in the game, but they're pretty good. When you make ridiculous claims like how it's the worst pokemon in OU without a doubt, it makes me think that you have no idea how to utilize it. It's fine to have an opinion on something that you're not knowledgeable of, but to claim that nobody should be using it and that it's the worst pokemon in the meta makes you sound ridiculously naive. |
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 6:51:01 AM
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The Chople Berry set is the ultimate Terrakion/Keldeo/Breloom lure and it can still avoid the KO from Scizor's Bullet Punch after SR (though it needs HP Fire to OHKO back without prior damage). Haban Berry sets practically guarantee the removal of an opposing dragon type on the opponent's team regardless of its speed, which in itself is huge. Either way Kyurem-B shouldn't be compared to a sweeper, as it's meant to be a lure/wallbreaker. Kyurem-B's usage was much higher on the suspect test tier without Genesect around and it will probably raise accordingly in OU now. The problem is that people still try to use it as a simple Choice Band/LO physical attacker (specially-based mixed LO is pretty good in my experience)without playing to its strength, which is a real shame. Quote:
Even if Cloyster runs its standards SS set 90% of the time, well, it's freaking Shell Smash Skill Link Icicle Spear we're talking about. There are many predictable mons in OU, that doesn't stop them from being damn good. Cloyster is one of those. |
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:54:44 PM
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However, it is annoying seeing essentially the exact same post from him each month, complaining about Pokemon not being used/being used too much.
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 3:44:38 PM
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Well can't say I'm surprised by the stats. Look at the OU suspect stats, 13 of the top 20 benefit from rain and can commonly be found on rain teams. Ferro is a premier defensive 'mon that resists water and has a 4x fire weakness reduced, scizor loses his 4x fire weakness- the only type weakness he has, tornadus and politoed himself don't need any explanations, forget cleaner keldeo is a damn dustbuster under rain and Dragonite gets access to hurricane + thunder as well as no sand to counteract lefties so he has his multiscale back. Forretress is in the same boat is scizor and ferro, Thundurus-T has a monster special attack and rain let's him abuse his strongest stab move, Jirachi gets thunder, pseudo stab waterpulse and loses his fire weakness, Rotom wash, Starmie and Tentacruel have boosted stabs and cruel gets rain dish and Chomp gets aqua tail to break skarmory.
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