|Oct 18th, 2010, 1:06:35 PM||#1|
Join Date: Oct 2010
My first RMT too
I've been playing this poke lab this pretty recently and i must say that im impress by this game and everyone in this community .back then i thought pokemon was all about raising it and make it a battle tower team .the concept of switching and stalling was new to me . when i started to browse the smogon article i thought the strategy provided give me a fresh idea about pokemon battle .its been a week already since i join this community and i can say that im not that bad .though i still need a lot to learn .while browsing the forum i see a lot everyone is bitching about their first rmt that im also itching to follow them.so here we are..
Since The first time i build my team till now i never use any other lead and i have been succesful with this lead .i never like the idea of suicidal lead but i can try he can also be a mid game cleaner,finish off any weakend poke with bullet punch .so far my experience with swampert has been a terrible one that i opt to use back grass knot. initially i run grass knot but felt its kind of useless and decide to use meteor mash coz the lucky attack boost effect but not until i encounter swarmpet .it,d be ok if i have other grass move user .but i use it back not for the sake of fearing swarmpert, i found it very handy to ohko such bulky pokemon. explosion is useful when meta is trick by any scarfed poke i call it kamikaze.
Scizor is pretty much as usual revenge killer.nothing i can write will make it any different than any other scizor on other team except one thing ,superpower. never did i found myself needing this attack but so do quick attack .u point out heatrean?maybe..i usually spam u-turn no matter what comes in.. .magnezone?i dont think so..Not even once that i found magnezone on any team so far.so i could use help to suggest me what move to use between those two or rather another move.
My scizor partner in u-turn spam session.though i still dont why people pass this one over a scarfed gon .my strategy is simple, i will use it only if i can force a switch.
pretty much a standard set and every poke on my team is a standard set provided by smogon but a few alternation to suit my use .not that i 'use it to suit my playstyle' ,i just found it very easy to use.now back to the story.dragonite is is my tools to destroy the skarmbliss combination which i find it hard to dismantle .prediction is still inplay though .other than that nothing to point out.
My wish passer.wish is rare for me to use but it did save my ass a couple time.i say its vital on a given time which will reduce my odd of losing even by a little.roar in my oponion is to deal those subfucker .with the bulk that vaporeon boast that shape this idea . but lack of experience and method of handling sub us is the main cause of this mindset.yawn IMO is much better than toxic cause never did i stall to make a good use of those accumulated damage..u can say im not good it.
almost ran out of word and idea .i use a sword dance luke before but didn't distibute much to the team .i can say it was unsuccesful. with kingdra i can say that it was unsuccesful but not as bad as luke .i thing i wanna try sub petaya empoleon for late game sweeper on this team.i can use it well on my other team.
Last edited by alex211; Oct 20th, 2010 at 7:04:00 AM.
|Oct 18th, 2010, 4:23:13 PM||#2|
Join Date: Oct 2010
While dragon-typed pokes are strong, 3 on a team seems a bit too much, and none of the other teammembers seem to block these weaknesses. Almost any water type wrecks this team; Starmie beats all dragon-types and vaporeon 1 vs 1 and neither metagross and scizor enjoy eating a life-orb boosted hydropump.
Also, opposing dragon types give you troubles. Any fire type attack on a dd dragon beats scizor, metagross, dragonite and kingdra. And vaporeon and your flygon don't really counter them. Even a dd gyarados with stone edge and waterfall beats your team, providing vaporeon doesn't switch in on a waterfall.
|Oct 18th, 2010, 8:47:26 PM||#3|
Join Date: Jan 2010
First I would suggest Lum Berry or Occa Berry on Metagross. Lum Berry allows it to beat Roserade, Smeargle and most Machamp, while Occa Berry lets you beat Heatran. Don't use Grass Knot because if you're up against Swampert, you can just set up SR and Explode. Use Meteor Mash so you can beat sleep inducing leads with a combination of Meteor Mash + Bullet Punch.
Also, if you are running 1 attack on Vaporeon, definitely go for Surf. HP Electric only helps against Gyarados and nothing else, while Surf actually does decent damage to a lot of Pokemon. Yawn and Roar is not good on the same set, so take out one of them and put in either HP Electric again, or add Protect, as Wish + Protect means you gain quite a bit of health back thanks to Leftovers.
Your set should be:
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp. Atk
-HP Electric / Protect
Hopefully this will help you.
|Oct 18th, 2010, 10:17:04 PM||#4|
Join Date: Oct 2010
'Almost any water type wrecks this team; Starmie beats all dragon-types and vaporeon 1 vs 1 and neither metagross and scizor enjoy eating a life-orb boosted hydropump.' why do u think so?i've no problem with starmie so far.in mid games it always come into u-turn from either choice bander and mid game is the my u-turn spamming sesssion given that no entry hazards were succesfully lay.even it does,i dont think it is unbeatenable .but u still need to explain to me about it. Remember ,competitive concept is new to me .i haven,t got the chance to learn that much and i still dont know how to use battle 101 program .lastly i have to agree about dragon dancer.i,ve been trash these recently by dd gyarados.i let gyara dd 4x and thingking that metagross could explode without knowing that speed is still in play .i thought explode is prioritize.that is the foolish thing i've done so far.
|Oct 18th, 2010, 11:26:39 PM||#5|
Join Date: Oct 2010
''First I would suggest Lum Berry or Occa Berry on Metagross.'' i can agree that one.
''if you're up against Swampert, you can just set up SR and Explode''
i did mention to u that i dont really suicide lead but i think i can accept that one for such bulky pokemon.i've tried once the bullet punce+meteor mash .and i find suit me very well .but its just my fear of swampert and hippo that opt me to pass this one over grass knot.
Pokemon behind a sub is another of my fear.how did u handle those thing .i've never found any other than roar to effecively defeat them.well u can say that i lack of knowledge to defeat them.