5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[tyons]

Originally Posted by Fat Lowen

Here's my initial problem for those who didn't read it:
Hello, I already had two successes in RNG with Virizion and Terrakion, but now that I started to RNG Kyurem, some problems started apearing.

I want to capture a normal timid Kyurem with 31/22/31/30/31/30 HP (Fire). My Seed is 155A8996 with Frame 3 and Delay 3002. My MAC adress is 497DD1 and I'm using the white Version.

So I started preparing everything to capture Kyurem and saved after standing in front of it. Then I used the EonTimer to know what Delay I hit and updated EonTimer. From there on my problems started. I captured it like 150 times already, but it only had a timid nature like 20 times (I'm using the same timid Elgyem with Synchro which I used to capture Virizion). Either I got extremely unlucky or.. I'm doing something wrong.

Furthermore, the Kyurems which were *not* timid, were VERY often (>50%) modest (And again, I'm using a timid Elgyem at my lead position). And what upsets me the most.. during all these tries, the Kyurem with my wished IVs never showed up. I invested less time for Terrakion/Virizion together then for this Kyurem.

I really don't know what I'm doing wrong.. I'm doing it the exact same way as for the other two. And since my frame is 3, I don't even have to advance it like I had to do for Virizion..

that happens because the PIDRNG's advancement is always the same, if you hit the same seeds. did you try to save\turn yourself in order to advance the PID frame?

[Lowen]

Originally Posted by Fat tyons

that happens because the PIDRNG's advancement is always the same, if you hit the same seeds. did you try to save\turn yourself in order to advance the PID frame?

What exactly do you mean with "did you try to save\turn yourself in order to advance the PID frame?"?

If you're asking if I advanced the Frame, then no I didn't. Since this Seed has a Delay of 3002 and Frame 3, I thought I don't have to advance it because its's -3 -1 (+1) = 3.

[kiddu]

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

Egg RNG is half based on inheritance, and half based on the MTRNG. You can control half, and the rest is luck.
Egg RNG has been figured out for non C-Gear abuse, which will be possible on english games in no time.

Heh...I see what you did there, OD.

Originally Posted by Fat TorchicBlaziken

Is 5G RNG easier than 4G RNG?

Not yet, but it will be "in no time."

Originally Posted by Fat Lowen

What exactly do you mean with "did you try to save\turn yourself in order to advance the PID frame?"?

If you're asking if I advanced the Frame, then no I didn't. Since this Seed has a Delay of 3002 and Frame 3, I thought I don't have to advance it because its's -3 -1 (+1) = 3.

There are two different RNGs in this generation: the IV RNG, which is what you hit your delay for, and the PID RNG, which determines nature/ability/gender and you can't control yet. However, even though you can't control it to get a set nature 100% of the time, you can still advance it by turning, saving, and/or letting the C-Gear run a bit longer and thus land on a different nature than usual.

[ArcDeus]

Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

The initial frame for the PIDRNG is +40 to +60. It applies to all Pokemon encounters, not just eggs.

Thanks for the explanation :)

[IcyFlame05]

Does a synchro efffect the nature of Zoroark? I cannot get the desired nature i want even with a pokemon with the ability. I'm getting too many different natures far from the nature i want.

[13laze13oy]

Quick question what frame is Zoroark on?

[kiddu]

Frame 3.

Originally Posted by Fat IcyFlame05

Does a synchro efffect the nature of Zoroark? I cannot get the desired nature i want even with a pokemon with the ability. I'm getting too many different natures far from the nature i want.

It should be... Have you tried saving and/or letting the C-Gear run for a few extra seconds?

[Lowen]

Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

Heh...I see what you did there, OD.



Not yet, but it will be "in no time."



There are two different RNGs in this generation: the IV RNG, which is what you hit your delay for, and the PID RNG, which determines nature/ability/gender and you can't control yet. However, even though you can't control it to get a set nature 100% of the time, you can still advance it by turning, saving, and/or letting the C-Gear run a bit longer and thus land on a different nature than usual.

Thanks for the explanation! So basically I just have turn my character a little bit (or walk a bit), save the game before speaking to kyurem or let C-Gear running?

[Mario With Lasers]

I downloaded RNG9 and tried to use that "DS Parameters" option; I know the right time down to the second, the date, the IVs, the MAC address and I'm using a JP Black original cart, and yet I click "Search" and never find anything. Am I doing something wrong, or is it that I shouldn't even be venturing myself doing this and wait for the next release?

[IcyFlame05]

Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

Frame 3.



It should be... Have you tried saving and/or letting the C-Gear run for a few extra seconds?

That i did but it still ended up being inconsistent. I just saved it, taking your advice, and went at it and it worked thanks!

[TheCalmSnivy]

Is the starting frame for gift Pokemon like the Larvesta egg and Zorua event 3?

[jubbah]

hi im just standing in front of a Darmanitan in the desert and im trying to max the IVs for several minutes already but im not getting it although im hitting the seed and delay well. i have to take the frame for normal pkm like stationary legendaries etc. dont i? and btw which pkm belong to the group "roaming generation" ? i could not find any information about that yet.

greets, jubbah

[Shinryu]

Roaming generation is pretty much what it implies, the 2 roamers in the game: Tornelus and Thundrus.

[jubbah]

Originally Posted by Fat Lowen

Thanks for the explanation! So basically I just have turn my character a little bit (or walk a bit), save the game before speaking to kyurem or let C-Gear running?

yes. a good way to "control" it is turning the c-gear off instantly after your timer ends and save the game. that increases the pid rng by 1 each time u save.

[kiddu]

Originally Posted by Fat Lowen

Thanks for the explanation! So basically I just have turn my character a little bit (or walk a bit), save the game before speaking to kyurem or let C-Gear running?

Don't walk or else you might advance your IV frame by accident, but otherwise yes.

Originally Posted by Fat TheCalmSnivy

Is the starting frame for gift Pokemon like the Larvesta egg and Zorua event 3?

The Larvesta egg is 10.

Originally Posted by Fat jubbah

hi im just standing in front of a Darmanitan in the desert and im trying to max the IVs for several minutes already but im not getting it although im hitting the seed and delay well. i have to take the frame for normal pkm like stationary legendaries etc. dont i?

You're going to need to be more specific. What exactly are you aiming for? How do you know that you're hitting your seed/delay?

[jubbah]

Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

You're going to need to be more specific. What exactly are you aiming for? How do you know that you're hitting your seed/delay?

I was aiming for hitting a seed for the Darmanitan that gives me max. values on all except S.Att. I know that i have to hit the delay from time to time coz i calibrated it well and while calibrating i hit the correct delay from time to time.
I just got it... i found out that my RNG reporter time seed was with a frame of 6, not 3 :/ Dont know what happened to my eyes.


Another question came up to my mind when i tried to hit a pkm on a route where you can find 4 different pkm and mine with 39%. i know i have to change the pidrng frame to get the one i want and the system how to abuse it correctly is not understood yet but is there at least something like a grid where i can see roughly which range of pidrng i need to find the special type etc? because it could also be that i need a pidrng frame of 1k to find it?!

[Slashmolder]

I'm trying my first RNG and want to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong since I've yet to succeed. I'm using pokemon black, the retail card. I am capable of switching to my flashcard if it makes a difference. I'm trying this on my 3DS because it has a seed with all 31s with a low frame a delay.
seed: 3FBA5693
frame: 7
MAC: AA4BE0
delay: 2728

I'm trying to catch a perfect Reshiram with a Modest nature. After calibration where I was able to hit the seed a few times on victory road with sweet sent I went back in front of him with 4 pokemon in my party, my lead being a Elgyem with a modest nature and synchronize. I take approximately 128 steps (I'm hoping it doesn't have to be exact, just over 128 and under 256) and then try to catch him. Right when my battle with N starts I check his stats and look for 175/126/120/187/140/110 if it's a complete success. I should at least see 175 HP if hit the seed/frame and just got a different nature.

Is what I'm doing correct and I'm just not hitting the frame properly?

[kiddu]

Originally Posted by Fat jubbah

Another question came up to my mind when i tried to hit a pkm on a route where you can find 4 different pkm and mine with 39%. i know i have to change the pidrng frame to get the one i want and the system how to abuse it correctly is not understood yet but is there at least something like a grid where i can see roughly which range of pidrng i need to find the special type etc? because it could also be that i need a pidrng frame of 1k to find it?!

No, there isn't. In order for there to be one, or for it to even be of any use, it would first have to be "understood", as you put it. All that you can do right now is work on trail and error.

Originally Posted by Fat Slashmolder

I'm trying my first RNG and want to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong since I've yet to succeed. I'm using pokemon black, the retail card. I am capable of switching to my flashcard if it makes a difference. I'm trying this on my 3DS because it has a seed with all 31s with a low frame a delay.
seed: 3FBA5693
frame: 7
MAC: AA4BE0
delay: 2728

I'm trying to catch a perfect Reshiram with a Modest nature. After calibration where I was able to hit the seed a few times on victory road with sweet sent I went back in front of him with 4 pokemon in my party, my lead being a Elgyem with a modest nature and synchronize. I take approximately 128 steps (I'm hoping it doesn't have to be exact, just over 128 and under 256) and then try to catch him. Right when my battle with N starts I check his stats and look for 175/126/120/187/140/110 if it's a complete success. I should at least see 175 HP if hit the seed/frame and just got a different nature.

Is what I'm doing correct and I'm just not hitting the frame properly?

It does need to be exactly 128 steps, or else you risk the frame advancing again. That's probably what's happening.

[Slashmolder]

Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

It does need to be exactly 128 steps, or else you risk the frame advancing again. That's probably what's happening.

Thanks I'll try to ensure I have exactly 128 steps.

[Elemt]

Ok, so I was trying to RNG Thundurus and this is the spread I was going for
31/14/30/31/31/31 HP Ice 70. My seed 0925E93A and Mac Address 11e30b. At frame 135 ticking the roamer box says I would get this spread 31/14/30/31/31/31. But, I did all these advances correctly and then I caught the roamer. His spread was 5/31/14/31/30/31. I then checked with RNG reporter. I put in my seed and left the roamer box unchecked and at frame 135 was this 5/31/14/30/31/31. Following the format for roamers IVs. Speed before the Spatk and shift the Spatk and Spdef to the right. The spread for a roamer at 135 is 5/31/14/31/30/31, which is what I ended up getting. So RNG Reporter is wrong? I would of got the right IVs at frame 136. But it told me 135.

[dragonboy52]

Can anyone run a search for me, please.

I'll PM/VM you for details, Thanks.

[Toast++]

Originally Posted by Fat Elemt

Ok, so I was trying to RNG Thundurus and this is the spread I was going for
31/14/30/31/31/31 HP Ice 70. My seed 0925E93A and Mac Address 11e30b. At frame 135 ticking the roamer box says I would get this spread 31/14/30/31/31/31. But, I did all these advances correctly and then I caught the roamer. His spread was 5/31/14/31/30/31. I then checked with RNG reporter. I put in my seed and left the roamer box unchecked and at frame 135 was this 5/31/14/30/31/31. Following the format for roamers IVs. Speed before the Spatk and shift the Spatk and Spdef to the right. The spread for a roamer at 135 is 5/31/14/31/30/31, which is what I ended up getting. So RNG Reporter is wrong? I would of got the right IVs at frame 136. But it told me 135.

I'm goin to guess you just did something incorrectly somewhere along the line. Reporter is created and tested using an emulator where values can be directly seen and tested. Any logical flaw in the programming would show up universally.

[dragonboy52]

Is Zekrom's starting frame 3?

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat dragonboy52

Is Zekrom's starting frame 3?

Any Wild Encounter and stationary Pokémon has a starting frame of 3 whilst using the C-Gear

[dragonboy52]

Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

Any Wild Encounter and stationary Pokémon has a starting frame of 3 whilst using the C-Gear

Thanks.
Target frame is 5 starting frame 3 so I have to move 128 steps with 2 pokemon in my party am I correct?