5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Exploits]

Originally Posted by Fat Explotic

Make sure you get 2 chatots for efficiency. (Place them next to each other in your party and just press up then down while looking at their summary)

Brilliant! I'll have to try this. Thankssss

[thetorsoboy]

I'm trying to use the non-C Gear method. I get the IVs, do the time right, and etc., but I never can get any results. None.

I don't get what I'm doing wrong. I have the Mac Adress, Pokemon Black (English) set, a DS Lite, the time: 4:41:05, the date: 04/05/11: and the IVs down.

[Turtwig]

Is there a way to tell if a swirling dust spot will have a gem or a Pokemon? Had a nasty time the other day dealing with gems when I was going for an Excadrill.

[Slashmolder]

I've noticed in BETA 4 you can specify to search a range of timer0 values. Is it somehow manipulatable?

[hoiboy]

I'm still trying to RNG that Zoroark in Lostlorn Forest (from the shiny beasts event) using the standard (Method 5, non C-gear) method. I picked a target frame of 1 and target seed of E85B6F3E1105054F (IVs 31/29/31/31/31/31). My DS Lite's MAC Address is 00-16-56-A4-1A-DA. I am also using a timid Alakazam to synchronize the nature of the Zoroark. However, I have been getting some slightly off results. The synch hasn't been working and I have been getting an Adamant Nature with the right IVs, so I'm wondering if something is wrong here...

I tried the method that bearsfan092 mentioned with saving once, then saving twice, then saving three times, etc. up to ten times, but I'm still getting an Adamant nature? Am I doing something wrong? Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Edit: Nevermind, I got it after 15 saves. Don't waste your time answering this question.

[Javamez]

Quick question. I am using the Method 5 Standard RNG Abuse method and was wondering if using a registered pass power (capture power ^) during the RNG process (since I would have to turn the C-gear on) would somehow change the frame or anything. Hopefully, I can make catching these pokemon a bit easier.

[Mackenzie]

im trying to rng zekrom on white. I still have no idea yet how to start, and i saw some posts saying that i need to lose a battle in order to check for the nature, how should i rng for this, and what nature do you guys recommend?

[Ves]

Is it currently possible to catch flawless Pokémon through fishing?

[justenough215]

Is c gear abuse compatible with the dsi? I know that non c gear is not compatible yet.

[Explotic]

Originally Posted by Fat justenough215

Is c gear abuse compatible with the dsi? I know that non c gear is not compatible yet.

Yes it is. I used C-gear abuse on a Dsi XL in the past.

[Slashmolder]

Another minor issue I noticed. When you export time finder results to a CSV it displayes the KeyPresses as numbers instead of "Right", "Y", "None", etc.

[Viss]

Okay, I'll try to ask this in another way.

In regards to Shiny starters: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=636

I'm quoting this to make it easier to read. Please just help me understand the parts I've bolded. Maybe I'm just too new with RNG Reporter, but with a little help I'm sure I can get this rather easily.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

(Please let me know if you need anything else... Such as parameters or what-not)

1) Get a Non-CGear seed with the IV spread you want.
I have an IV on frame 1 with max IV's (For Wild and Stationary). 14B11BA60A595064
2) Get a PID from that Non-CGear seed that you can hit
Should I be using the PIDRNG Method and searching the seed above?
Be sure that the frame is high enough so that the 40+ advancements from the initial seed is already factored in
3) Split the PID into SID and ID. Convert to decimal.
4) Open up [Time Finder], be sure your same parameters are loaded.
5) Select Method 5 (Natures) Theoretical, select 5th Gen Roamers.
6) Enter the PID (converted into IDs) into the ID/SID field. Order doesn't matter.
7) Max frame is 100
8) Generate your "Shiny Roamers"
9) [Delete your old save so that you can start a new game]
I get steps 3 through 9, though I am confused that I'm searching for Roamers, rather than Wild/Stationary. Is this because starters are considered roamers, or does it not really matter?
10) Take a "Shiny Roamer" non-cgear seed and hit it. Start the new game.
Okay, hit seed. Check. (Unless I'm missing something)
11) Take the IDs you got, convert them back into a seed (SID_ID) to see what frame you hit.
I am so confused by this step (How do I find the IDs?). Likely because I'm new. Is there a "noob-friendly" explanation I might better understand?
12) Determine how many times you have to say "No" to the Professor so that what you hit would be what you want to hit (the shiny roamer PID).
This is similar to saving multiple times at a Stationary legendary to hit the Nature you need, right?
13) Hit your non-cgear seed again, say "no" the proper amount of times on the second question from the Professor (name is correct).
14) You should have the IDs that you were wanting to hit (shiny roamer PID)
Save here? And then when I load up the IV seed, I should automatically get the Shiny when choosing my Starter?
15) That seed from step 1 (the IV spread / PID) will now be shiny on whatever frame you took it from.

[Tirade]

Originally Posted by Fat Explotic

No, you need to take 128 steps with 1 pokemon in your party to advance the frame by 1.

EDIT: Also I would like to thank everyone for all the information in this thread. It has allowed me to successfully rng a Shiny Cobalion with pretty good stats/nature :D

So does the "step" you take to exit the house count as one of the 128 steps? I just want to make sure I am doing it right. I haven't went after a Roamer yet.

[Kaphotics]

Originally Posted by Fat Viss

Okay, I'll try to ask this in another way.

In regards to Shiny starters: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=636

I'm quoting this to make it easier to read. Please just help me understand the parts I've bolded. Maybe I'm just too new with RNG Reporter, but with a little help I'm sure I can get this rather easily.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

(Please let me know if you need anything else... Such as parameters or what-not)

I refined that method when doing my shiny starters to make it less search intensive.

All you have to do is hit the seed again as an ID seed.

Example from when I did my RNG:

Parameters 

00-1C-BE-81-EF-3B, 14:42:05, 28/2/0/19/13/17, ENG White, DSlite, 3/16/11
[[001CBE81EF3B vcount 60, timer0 C7E, gx 6, vframe 6, ENG White, DSlite]]

I want 31/xx/31/30/31/30 for HP Fire

Seed found: 
IVSeed: 4AA86AF0
Full seed: 4AA86AF0A9E8808D
1/12/2011
19:27:30
KeyPress Combo: Down-Left, B
31/6/31/30/31/30
Frame 1 IVs

Initial Things I hit with 4AA86AF0A9E8808D as my seed:
Frame 36 Naturally Hit IDs          73-36 = 37 no's
Frame 56 Naturally Hit Starter PID  73-56 = 17 saves

Researcher showing me the ID list.

researcher doing the calculations for me

---

Things I want to hit and analysis:

Looked for the lowest timid frame, (74). 
Nature is generated after PID so I want frame 73.

Target Timid PID Starter Frame	    73

Unxor'd Upper32 of frame 73	    557BCDDA
High Bit and Low Bit		    (0/0), 
TID: 52697 SID: 21883  
    Low Bit Low Bit 		    (1/1) 0^0^1^1=0,
		         No 0x8 decision on wild PID
	
0x10000 and 0x8 decision PID        557ACDDA
Egg PID				    557BCDD9
Roamer PID			    557BCDDA

All are shiny with the IDs listed for that PID... 

However, I can't hit that roamer PID because the frame is too low.

The way this works is that the PID^IDs is almost always shiny, because they come from the same RNG seed and they are almost exactly the same, passing the shiny calculation.

[firestorm xl]

how would i go about RNGing a wild pokemon with a spread on a frame of 4? i know about the advancements and all that just looking for tips on it in general.

[Tirade]

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

how would i go about RNGing a wild pokemon with a spread on a frame of 4? i know about the advancements and all that just looking for tips on it in general.

I'm thinking 3 sets of 128 steps with 1 Pokemon in your party. Not sure if that qualifies as a tip or just advancement knowledge (which you may be aware of). My apologies if this does not help.

[Bond697]

Originally Posted by Fat Viss

Okay, I'll try to ask this in another way.

In regards to Shiny starters: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=636

I'm quoting this to make it easier to read. Please just help me understand the parts I've bolded. Maybe I'm just too new with RNG Reporter, but with a little help I'm sure I can get this rather easily.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

(Please let me know if you need anything else... Such as parameters or what-not)

did you look through reporter? pandora's box works well.

[firestorm xl]

Originally Posted by Fat Tirade

I'm thinking 3 sets of 128 steps with 1 Pokemon in your party. Not sure if that qualifies as a tip or just advancement knowledge (which you may be aware of). My apologies if this does not help.

its C-Gear but thanks for the help. getting the right nature outta be fun without a sync lol

[Viss]

Originally Posted by Fat Bond697

did you look through reporter? pandora's box works well.

Not really sure what I'd be looking for. I guess I just don't get exactly where I should be looking for certain things.

When I get a PID from my IV seed, do I just pick anything? When I use the Method 5 PIDRNG, I find a Timid nature at frame 70, but from there I can't quite figure out exactly how to get a shiny. I can't seem to wrap my head around how I can get a shiny from there.

But, I'll see how I can go from here.

I used Method 5 PIDRNG, and found PID: FDFC65E7 at frame 70. I went into Time Finder (Which doesn't have a Nature selection anymore? (Assuming I use the PIDRNG method now?) I got the 2 ID's (65020 26087)... This is where I get lost. Do I just pick any Shiny, or what's the best way to go about choosing a seed here?

After that, I get even more confused. I guess I don't understand how I pull the SID and ID once I hit the Shiny seed. I understand that once I have that, I can easily determine which frame I hit... And from there it seems like I'd have no problem.

Does that make sense?

[Mr.L]

Ok, I heard somewhere that you can use wild pokemon spreads for egg pokemon, as long as you take into account the start frame as 8 instead of 1.

I am using a 31/7/31/31/31/31 spread with a frame of 12, so my egg should have either the IVs of the parents through Inheritance, of have these IVs...

I bred a 30/29/31/x/31/? and a 31/31/31/31/31/31, and ended up getting a 24-25/31/31/31/31 Baby. Any explanation to calm my curious mind?

[jones115]

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

its C-Gear but thanks for the help. getting the right nature outta be fun without a sync lol

Dude just lvl up your sycner and use it as your catcher

[Shinryu]

Might've missed the seed? Dunno honestly, breeding is still supposedly funky.

[ΩDonut]

Okay, I lied. There is another public beta release before the official release. Here's RNG Reporter 9 beta 5.

Added:
- support for soft-reset Standard Seeds, BUT you need to redo your parameter search, as they will be completely different
- added a minimum frame option in Time Finder searches

Fixed:
- Gift Pokémon frame output
- Egg PIDs under Breeding (BW) and Breeding (BW, International), also shows F\M instead of A\B for IV inheritance
- Reverted to .NET 2.0 instead of forcing people to download .NET 4.0

[firestorm xl]

Originally Posted by Fat jones115

Dude just lvl up your sycner and use it as your catcher

really? hmm how does that work out because dont you have to sweet scent a poke? or can you just skip repels?

[ΩDonut]

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

really? hmm how does that work out because dont you have to sweet scent a poke? or can you just skip repels?

The Honey item works exactly like Sweet Scent. Go catch a Combee and have it gather some for you.