5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat Elranoc

Reposting because I still need an answer.

You should check for your PIDRNG starting frame WITHOUT the everstone.

[pikabuddy]

Also, let's say I have my seed, ability, and frame on par for an Adamant Timburr/Gurdurr in the wild. I sweet scent but run into a different Pokemon, but it has the exact nature, ability number, and IVs I want. Is there a way to "change" the Pokemon like how you can save for Natures?

And for Landorus, is the encounter frame your choice, or start at 8, etc.?

Also, what ability number is for Conkeldurr's Guts?

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

Also, let's say I have my seed, ability, and frame on par for an Adamant Timburr/Gurdurr in the wild. I sweet scent but run into a different Pokemon, but it has the exact nature, ability number, and IVs I want. Is there a way to "change" the Pokemon like how you can save for Natures?

And for Landorus, is the encounter frame your choice, or start at 8, etc.?

Also, what ability number is for Conkeldurr's Guts?

Guts is Ability 0.

[LolcakesxD]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

Also, let's say I have my seed, ability, and frame on par for an Adamant Timburr/Gurdurr in the wild. I sweet scent but run into a different Pokemon, but it has the exact nature, ability number, and IVs I want. Is there a way to "change" the Pokemon like how you can save for Natures?

And for Landorus, is the encounter frame your choice, or start at 8, etc.?

Also, what ability number is for Conkeldurr's Guts?

Encounter slot values. You can check it's ability yourself in rng reporter.

[pikabuddy]

Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

Guts is Ability 0.

Okay.

What about the other questions?

[Kaphotics]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

Okay.

What about the other questions?

LolcakesxD answered your other questions.

Landorus is stationary frame 1 like any other stationary legend.

ESVs or Encounter Slots.

NPCs that move erratically advance your frame Wazzup360.

http://eggmove.com/encounterwhite.html
http://eggmove.com/encounterblack.html

[pikabuddy]

Originally Posted by Fat LolcakesxD

Encounter slot values. You can check it's ability yourself in rng reporter.

I don't use RNG reporter. Is there an option for this in PPRNG?


"Encounter slot values?"


Sorry. :p

[Wazzup360]

I'm pretty new to rng, and got a little problem. I was trying to RNG a modest petlil, so i tried advancing my PIDRNG by 1 a few times, write down natures, and searched them in the main window, but couldn;t find em. So i catches a few more on the beginning of the seed (without advancing PIDRNG frames) and i got 3 times different natures and pokemons, but the IVs where that of my seed, so im right there. What is causing my PIDRNG to become "random"? (i heard somewhere something about walking trainers, can that be it? And for the people who didnt figure yet, i'm in pinwheel forest. does it have to do something with pinwheel? And is there even a posibillity to PIDRNG petlil? or do i really need to just sync there. Thanks in advance.

• Please list which version of RNG Reporter or PPRNG you are using.
• 9.75
• What are you trying to capture\hatch? Please specify whether you are attempting to breed a shiny Pokémon, breed IVs onto a Pokémon, or capture a Pokémon.
• Petlil, non shiny, modest
• What is your target seed and frame? What is the delay of that seed? What is the MAC address of the DS you are using?
• target seed i dunno, since i havent find my nature sequence yet. Delay none (?) cus non-c-gear. mac adress: 0009BF46510F Seed:79D61DC51F5F1FE2
• How did you verify your seed?
• IV calculator, got pretty solid outcome on the IVS.
• If you tried and failed, what results did you get? You NEED to know this so you can figure out what went wrong. Results are either the IV\nature of the Pokemon you caught, or an ID\SID if you are attempting ID\SID abuse.
• Still want me to make a list? since 3 times when i just started, natures where different, plus a few that i advanced with chatot.
  

[randomwithaj]

Originally Posted by Fat Elranoc

Reposting because I still need an answer.

Elranoc, I was having the same exact problem you were having. In order to find my initial PID frame, I hit my seed and advanced my frame about 12 consecutive times and listed each nature. Then, I repeated the entire process and compared/contrasted both lists to each other. Long story short, they were similar, but by no means identical:

List 1:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Modest
3 - Modest
4 - Lonely
5 - Lonely
6 - Bashful
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

List 2:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Relaxed
3 - Modest
4 - Relaxed
5 - Lonely
6 - Timid
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

Looking at my list of PID natures on the main page of RNG Reporter, I found this list of consecutive frames:

64 - Relaxed
65 - Relaxed
66 - Relaxed
67 - Modest
68 - Serious
69 - Timid
70 - Lonely
71 - Timid
72 - Relaxed
73 - Relaxed
74 - Relaxed
75 - Gentle
76 - Relaxed
77 - Careful

I noticed the discrepancies, but concluded that the lists were too close to be coincidence. Therefore, I started from 64 and advanced the PID to the amount needed to hit my perfect shiny spread. Fortunately for me, it worked after three attempts. You look like you're doing everything right, but my advice to you is to get a comprehensive list of PIDs (not just three or four) in order to get a more general overview of where your PID frame initializes. The lists I showed you also iterate that it will not be a perfect match, I assume due to the invisible movements of the NPCs off screen. It takes time, but don't give up and you will eventually hatch your peerfect shiny. Just my two cents, hope it helps.

[Vladimir]

@wazzup:Petilil in Pinwheel Forest? If that's the case, then wandering NPCs must have fucked your PIDs up. Try Lostlorn Forest for Petilil - there are no NPCs there.

Also, can we have a "min shiny frame" box in the next RNG reporter? When i search for shinies, i come across a ton of unusable 6 or 30 "nearest shiny" frames, which make it kinda hard to scroll down.

[Wazzup360]

Originally Posted by Fat randomwithaj

Elranoc, I was having the same exact problem you were having. In order to find my initial PID frame, I hit my seed and advanced my frame about 12 consecutive times and listed each nature. Then, I repeated the entire process and compared/contrasted both lists to each other. Long story short, they were similar, but by no means identical:

List 1:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Modest
3 - Modest
4 - Lonely
5 - Lonely
6 - Bashful
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

List 2:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Relaxed
3 - Modest
4 - Relaxed
5 - Lonely
6 - Timid
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

Looking at my list of PID natures on the main page of RNG Reporter, I found this list of consecutive frames:

64 - Relaxed
65 - Relaxed
66 - Relaxed
67 - Modest
68 - Serious
69 - Timid
70 - Lonely
71 - Timid
72 - Relaxed
73 - Relaxed
74 - Relaxed
75 - Gentle
76 - Relaxed
77 - Careful

I noticed the discrepancies, but concluded that the lists were too close to be coincidence. Therefore, I started from 64 and advanced the PID to the amount needed to hit my perfect shiny spread. Fortunately for me, it worked after three attempts. You look like you're doing everything right, but my advice to you is to get a comprehensive list of PIDs (not just three or four) in order to get a more general overview of where your PID frame initializes. The lists I showed you also iterate that it will not be a perfect match, I assume due to the invisible movements of the NPCs off screen. It takes time, but don't give up and you will eventually hatch your peerfect shiny. Just my two cents, hope it helps.

Seems like the same problem i have, but when npc are there, doesnt that mean after advancing 64 frames, you need to have pure luck if ya egg hatches? Or is there any other way? (asking to different people)

@vladmir, ty! didnt know there where petlils there too. Will take a look and try! also, hope to hear some more on how to fix this problem with npcs fuxing up PIDs, since im still pretty new, and i have the feeling this will come in my way many times for other pokes, or eggs in teh future.

[dela_Cruz]

Why can't you RNG on non C-Gear seeds with a DSi?

[pikabuddy]

ALRIGHT!

I;ve got what I need. At a PID Frame of 70, If I sweet scent at IV Frame 1 I will run into a level 28 Gurdurr, Adamant, Guts, with 31/31/31/X/31/31.

i cailbrated my DS, and my starting PID Frame is 47.

Would that mean to get to PID Frame 70 I would need to turn in place, NOT move my character forward, 21 times, (according to first post, 2 frames per step), plus save 1 time, and then sweet scent?

PS: Does a repel effect the IV Frame or PID Frame at all?

[Reaga]

So what does having a ditto as a parent change? I noticed that besides the obvious lack of dreamworld, clicking that changed some inheritance for some reason

[kenhcwoo]

I'm having a little trouble finding my DS parameters. I'm using an R4 Wood DS with a DS Lite. Could the flashcart be the problem?

I've tried starting the game from the flashcart menu at a certain time, sweet scenting when I get into the game, and then putting the IVs in the Parameter Finder, but I always get no results. I've also tried doing this with a soft reset (with the soft reset box checked) and it's still no result.

Do caps matter in the MAC address box? What about single digit IVs, if it's 1, does it have to be 1_ or 01? Do these things even matter?

[Reaga]

Yeah flash carts aren't supported for standard rng

[ZeroSum]

Originally Posted by Fat ZeroSum

Yeah I've got a chatot and I'm advancing frames no problem, but I'm doing it blindly because I don't know which frame I'm currently on.

Based on what you said in the last post, I'm RNG'ing in a winter month, so I'm looking at 300+ the first Lonely pokemon there is on frame 313 for that seed. Its PID is 822E5059. That's where I lose you. How do I deduce what the PID%6 given the PID? What's the equation?

Bump for Kaphotics.

[pikabuddy]

If a Pokemon only has one ability, such as Levitate on Tynamo, is the ability number 0 or 1?

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

If a Pokemon only has one ability, such as Levitate on Tynamo, is the ability number 0 or 1?

0 and 1.

[pikabuddy]

Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

0 and 1.

Does a repel affect anything related to RNG?

[Elranoc]

Originally Posted by Fat randomwithaj

Elranoc, I was having the same exact problem you were having. In order to find my initial PID frame, I hit my seed and advanced my frame about 12 consecutive times and listed each nature. Then, I repeated the entire process and compared/contrasted both lists to each other. Long story short, they were similar, but by no means identical:

List 1:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Modest
3 - Modest
4 - Lonely
5 - Lonely
6 - Bashful
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

List 2:
0 - Relaxed
1 - Relaxed
2 - Relaxed
3 - Modest
4 - Relaxed
5 - Lonely
6 - Timid
7 - Timid
8 - Gentle
9 - Relaxed
10 - Careful

Looking at my list of PID natures on the main page of RNG Reporter, I found this list of consecutive frames:

64 - Relaxed
65 - Relaxed
66 - Relaxed
67 - Modest
68 - Serious
69 - Timid
70 - Lonely
71 - Timid
72 - Relaxed
73 - Relaxed
74 - Relaxed
75 - Gentle
76 - Relaxed
77 - Careful

I noticed the discrepancies, but concluded that the lists were too close to be coincidence. Therefore, I started from 64 and advanced the PID to the amount needed to hit my perfect shiny spread. Fortunately for me, it worked after three attempts. You look like you're doing everything right, but my advice to you is to get a comprehensive list of PIDs (not just three or four) in order to get a more general overview of where your PID frame initializes. The lists I showed you also iterate that it will not be a perfect match, I assume due to the invisible movements of the NPCs off screen. It takes time, but don't give up and you will eventually hatch your peerfect shiny. Just my two cents, hope it helps.

Thanks so much for your input, I will give this a whirl when I get home. Fingers crossed!

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

Does a repel affect anything related to RNG?

Nope.

[firestorm xl]

how can i find out what an ability number is for pokemon with 2 abilities? also when searching for shiny frames for wild pokemon would i set it to all encounters shiny or click the shiny box? also how do i find my starting PID

[Dark Druid Nergal]

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

Read: Encounter Slots

Yep, you can't search for breeding seeds as it is extremely computation heavy. We're still making sure prediction is right, and it's not one of the priorities.

So I looked up Encounter Slots and I think I have a good enough understanding of what they are. According to the ESV chart from http://eggmove.com/encounterblack.html, I should be able to get a Ditto at the Giant Chasm on slots 3 and 6. I found a seed that would give me 31/31/31/X/31/31 on frame 6. I entered that seed into the main screen, chose "Method 5 PIDRNG", clicked Generate and checked Frame 6, which said I should get a Quiet nature male Pokemon with Encounter Slot 3. When I hit the seed on my DS and encountered a Pokemon, it was a Mild female Piloswine. It had all the IVs it should have, but everything else about it was wrong.

[Kiebin]

Originally Posted by Fat Dark Druid Nergal

So I looked up Encounter Slots and I think I have a good enough understanding of what they are. According to the ESV chart from http://eggmove.com/encounterblack.html, I should be able to get a Ditto at the Giant Chasm on slots 3 and 6. I found a seed that would give me 31/31/31/X/31/31 on frame 6. I entered that seed into the main screen, chose "Method 5 PIDRNG", clicked Generate and checked Frame 6, which said I should get a Quiet nature male Pokemon with Encounter Slot 3. When I hit the seed on my DS and encountered a Pokemon, it was a Mild female Piloswine. It had all the IVs it should have, but everything else about it was wrong.

You probably didn't advance the PIDRNG to the right frame.