5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 211

Turtwig · Apr 26th, 2011, 7:32:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Turtwig

Questions about PIDRNG advancements, would really like an answer for them:

1. By approximately how much does a Wandering NPC advance the frames? Would it be by 2 for each turn/step similarly to the player's, or is it different for them...?

2. About how much does the sandstorm advance per second?

Reposting this. Would appreciate an answer, please. Thanks.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 7:40:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

That's normal. I didn't find a decent shiny frame for my Virizion until 2014.

Ok I set the date from 4/26/2011 to 8/08/2011, and I'm not getting any results when in the previous search I had already gotten at least one. Is there a problem or have I been hit with a Worryseed?

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 7:43:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

Ok I set the date from 4/26/2011 to 8/08/2011, and I'm not getting any results when in the previous search I had already gotten at least one. Is there a problem or have I been hit with a Worryseed?

Why are you mentioning a specific day (4\26, 8\08) when you can't search a specific day in the Time Finder?

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Originally Posted by Fat Turtwig

Questions about PIDRNG advancements, would really like an answer for them:

1. By approximately how much does a Wandering NPC advance the frames? Would it be by 2 for each turn/step similarly to the player's, or is it different for them...?

2. About how much does the sandstorm advance per second?

1) Inconsistent.

2) Very inconsistent. There are hundreds of dust particles on the screen and each one affects the RNG.

You should not be trying to use the movements of NPCs\weather to control the RNG. At all.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 7:48:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

Why are you mentioning a specific day (4\26, 8\08) when you can't search a specific day in the Time Finder?

What are you talking about? FYI I'm using the Mac one, since I'm on a Mac and all. So maybe that is it

Zerofocus · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:03:41 PM

Is it possible for the same seed to be synchronizable when catching a stationary Pokemon and non-synchronizable when catching a regular wild Pokemon with sweet scent? My RNG Reporter is telling me this but I always thought the only difference between stationary and wild Pokemon was that you had to advance the PID 2(?) more frames.

Turtwig · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

1) Inconsistent.

2) Very inconsistent. There are hundreds of dust particles on the screen and each one affects the RNG.

You should not be trying to use the movements of NPCs\weather to control the RNG. At all.

All right. I wasn't using them to advance, I am very well aware that you shouldn't use them to do that, I just wanted to know if anyone knew anything about it. I was RNGing a Sigilyph from Desert Resort the other day, and was simply wondering if there was any information that might help me involving those. I got my Sigilyph after a little while, so this isn't too important at this point. Just a random question. :/

Blue_Master · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:08:39 PM

Im using the non c-gear RNG for breeding...my only problem is how to change the ability of the pokemon - i always get the same result - right IV's, nature but the ability is wrong....example - Adamant timburr but the ability is always sheerforce....thanks in advance :)

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:13:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Turtwig

All right. I wasn't using them to advance, I am very well aware that you shouldn't use them to do that, I just wanted to know if anyone knew anything about it. I was RNGing a Sigilyph from Desert Resort the other day, and was simply wondering if there was any information that might help me involving those. I got my Sigilyph after a little while, so this isn't too important at this point. Just a random question. :/

I do believe we'll have an effective method of RNGing in areas with weather once I've done more research into how the pitch of Chatot calls is affected by the RNG, so we can use them like HGSS' Elm calls. But they're a very low priority at the moment, as I am preparing for the VGC tournaments, and at the same time finishing up projects for graduation.

The one feature that will make it out before the end of the month is a 5th Gen Shiny Egg searcher. When trying to do it myself I realized it wasn't as easy to do as I led myself to believe. Not all shiny Gift Pokemon frames can translate into shiny egg frames, so I need to make a search specifically for that.

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Originally Posted by Fat Blue_Master

Im using the non c-gear RNG for breeding...my only problem is how to change the ability of the pokemon - i always get the same result - right IV's, nature but the ability is wrong....example - Adamant timburr but the ability is always sheerforce....thanks in advance :)

If you're breeding blind and just using an everstone for the nature, you're going to have to keep trying, or you can learn how to control the PIDRNG. You should go read Kaphotics' guide on the first page, then.

pikabuddy · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:25:01 PM

What does the '!!! Frm' in the Standard Seed Searcher window of PPRNG mean? Values starting appearing there for the first time when I checked the 'Shiny Only' box. I;ve never seen them otherwise before (I don;t search for shinies). Is this related to the shininess of a Pokemon?

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:28:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

What does the '!!! Frm' in the Standard Seed Searcher window of PPRNG mean? Values starting appearing there for the first time when I checked the 'Shiny Only' box. I;ve never seen them otherwise before (I don;t search for shinies). Is this related to the shininess of a Pokemon?

It's following the RNG Reporter convention for showing shininess. It has a Shiny column that's "!!!" if it's shiny, and blank if it isn't.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:32:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

What are you talking about? FYI I'm using the Mac one, since I'm on a Mac and all. So maybe that is it

Don't want to hog up space so I got rid of my image
http://oi53.tinypic.com/a0as6t.jpg
Anyone know what is going on???

**voodoo pimp** · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:35:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

Don't want to hog up space so I got rid of my image
http://oi53.tinypic.com/a0as6t.jpg
Anyone know what is going on???

The values aren't going to be perfectly spread out. There have been times where I'll go like six months without seeing a single good seed and then suddenly get three results at once.

lucariojr · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:40:48 PM

oi, say I have an awesome seed that gives me 31/31/31/31/31/31 Lax shiny wild Pokemon. Can I use a synchronizer and still get a shiny?

pikabuddy · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:43:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

It's following the RNG Reporter convention for showing shininess. It has a Shiny column that's "!!!" if it's shiny, and blank if it isn't.

What's the value under it? Is it the PID Frame?

Zandock · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:46:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat lucariojr

oi, say I have an awesome seed that gives me 31/31/31/31/31/31 Lax shiny wild Pokemon. Can I use a synchronizer and still get a shiny?

Depends on the frame. If the nature is bolded, that means it is a sync frame.

**V4Victini** · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:56:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat lucariojr

oi, say I have an awesome seed that gives me 31/31/31/31/31/31 Lax shiny wild Pokemon. Can I use a synchronizer and still get a shiny?

It depends on whether its a synch frame or not. Plug the seed into the main window of RNGReporter, plug in your TID and SID and click shiny only Change the synch nature to your nature and see if it changes the Lax Nature.

**V4Victini** · Apr 26th, 2011, 8:58:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

Depends on the frame. If the nature is bolded, that means it is a sync frame.

Really? That didnt work for mine.

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 9:09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

Depends on the frame. If the nature is bolded, that means it is a sync frame.

it does this for Time Finder, not for the main window. Will fix this next release.

chiizu · Apr 26th, 2011, 9:36:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

Don't want to hog up space so I got rid of my image
http://oi53.tinypic.com/a0as6t.jpg
Anyone know what is going on???

You have set a very specific set of parameters, so it is not surprising that you get no results. You'd be better off leaving the nature set to 'Any' and looking for a synchable shiny (you'll have to sort through the results -- it's not a filter setting at the moment), as well as looking for 3-button combos.

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Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

What's the value under it? Is it the PID Frame?

It is the PID frame for a wild shiny encounter.

And please don't bump your own post after only 5 posts and less than an hour has passed, even if the page has rolled over. Maybe you don't read posts on previous pages, but other people do.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 9:49:10 PM

Seed: 340263AE82527FF2
Pokemon: Tynamo with HP Ice
Nature: Rash
I'm starting off at PID Frame 53, and at 121 there's a Rash nature with an ESV of 9 which is where Tynamo should be at BF2 of Chargestone Cave, but all I'm finding are Lax Ferroseeds lv 26 of the same IV spread. Advice?

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 9:53:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

Seed: 340263AE82527FF2
Pokemon: Tynamo with HP Ice
Nature: Rash
I'm starting off at PID Frame 53, and at 121 there's a Rash nature with an ESV of 9 which is where Tynamo should be at BF2 of Chargestone Cave, but all I'm finding are Lax Ferroseeds lv 26 of the same IV spread. Advice?

More details, please. Like how you are doing your advancements.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 9:56:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

More details, please. Like how you are doing your advancements.

Right sorry. I'm just turning in place, as I subtracted Frame 53 from Frame 121 and divided by two, as turning in place advances frame by two.

If anything else is needed I'll edit this.

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 10:12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat «KÏ®Ä»

Right sorry. I'm just turning in place, as I subtracted Frame 53 from Frame 121 and divided by two, as turning in place advances frame by two.

If anything else is needed I'll edit this.

It looks like you keep overshooting your frame and hitting frame 157 or 165. Those are the only nearby frames that have a Lax nature plus an encounter slot that gives Ferroseed.

I've always found turning to be iffy for advancements when trying with a DS. Chatot calls really are the way to go.

Exploits · Apr 26th, 2011, 10:19:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

I've always found turning to be iffy for advancements when trying with a DS.

It sure is. When I try big numbers I never land on the frame I'm supposed to.

«KÏ®Ä» · Apr 26th, 2011, 10:27:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

It looks like you keep overshooting your frame and hitting frame 157 or 165. Those are the only nearby frames that have a Lax nature plus an encounter slot that gives Ferroseed.

I've always found turning to be iffy for advancements when trying with a DS. Chatot calls really are the way to go.

I don't have a Chatot just yet, and I don't get how they work but I'll figure it out. Also I think another trainer who is running is effecting my results.

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Zerofocus Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 440 Canada	Is it possible for the same seed to be synchronizable when catching a stationary Pokemon and non-synchronizable when catching a regular wild Pokemon with sweet scent? My RNG Reporter is telling me this but I always thought the only difference between stationary and wild Pokemon was that you had to advance the PID 2(?) more frames. __________________ If I post a CMT in YOUR thread, please post the response in MY thread. My Trade Thread - Hatman Emporium White FC:0690 9767 6533

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Blue_Master Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 39 In the distant land of the Philippines	Im using the non c-gear RNG for breeding...my only problem is how to change the ability of the pokemon - i always get the same result - right IV's, nature but the ability is wrong....example - Adamant timburr but the ability is always sheerforce....thanks in advance :) __________________ You are the light that shines within the darkness in me!

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lucariojr stranger'n a snake's suspenders, but sweeter'n a stolen kiss Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 955 Mississippi	oi, say I have an awesome seed that gives me 31/31/31/31/31/31 Lax shiny wild Pokemon. Can I use a synchronizer and still get a shiny? __________________ aint i a piece of work

Apr 26th, 2011, 9:49:10 PM	#5270
«KÏ®Ä» Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 198 New England	Seed: 340263AE82527FF2 Pokemon: Tynamo with HP Ice Nature: Rash I'm starting off at PID Frame 53, and at 121 there's a Rash nature with an ESV of 9 which is where Tynamo should be at BF2 of Chargestone Cave, but all I'm finding are Lax Ferroseeds lv 26 of the same IV spread. Advice? __________________ Pokemon Black Version: 3181 5602 3005 ∆Kira's® RNG (+ øthers) Trade Center™∆ I prefer PMs; VMs are messy in my opinion. If I CMT in your thread, please respond to me in my thread or through PM

Apr 26th, 2011, 8:25:01 PM	#5259
pikabuddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 181	What does the '!!! Frm' in the Standard Seed Searcher window of PPRNG mean? Values starting appearing there for the first time when I checked the 'Shiny Only' box. I;ve never seen them otherwise before (I don;t search for shinies). Is this related to the shininess of a Pokemon?