5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Kaphotics]

Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

So... does anyone have any idea how to determine what the offspring of a Nidoran F will be? I thought it would just be like any other 50% Female species, but my Special Flawless Hustle Nidoran just hatched as a female when the pid only reads the 75% column as F.

Use a different frame. It's not PID related, it's a decision. Nobody's researched it :)

[Elemt]

Originally Posted by Fat Andren

New problem, with same information as on pages 213 and 214. This time I'm hitting Frame 3 on 04/04/2011 at 22:18:29 for a 30/31/30/19/30/31 with a Timer0 of C7F, but my game keeps switching between a Timer0 of C7F and C80. How do I manipulate this to keep it at either one?

For me, I try to hit my keypress at different times within the second. Just keep playing with it. If you can't get the right Timer0 try a different seed.

Originally Posted by Fat Ticcyboy

Im trying to RNG my ID/Sid

I have my seed I want to use 48609E94F716606F
And my Target Frame is 49
I Press Find ID Seeds And Find One with the frame 44
I now dont know how to get my ID

Any help would be great thanks :)

Now you want to hit the seed generated from Pandora's box with the date and time given (delete you old save file first). Then start your new game and check the TID you get. Type it in 'Seed Finder' in Pandora's Box along with the date/time and hit 'Find seed hit'. If you hit the right seed, the number in the frames column will be your starting frame for that seed. Say it is 30. You do 44 -30 = 14. This 14 is the amount of times you have to hit 'no' when the Professor asks you to confirm your name. Finally, hit 'yes' and hopefully you hit the right seed and you have the correct TID/SID combination.

[pikabuddy]

I want to thank everyone again for your help. I have finally RNG'ed my first shiny pokemon, a flawless adamant intimidate Sandile. The frame was at 431, and the chatot chattering was tedious, (took me about 15 minutes) but it paid off! Thanks everyone!


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[Wazzup360]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

I want to thank everyone again for your help. I have finally RNG'ed my first shiny pokemon, a flawless adamant intimidate Sandile. The frame was at 431, and the chatot chattering was tedious, (took me about 15 minutes) but it paid off! Thanks everyone!


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Small note, you dont have to hear the whole chatter. just entering hsi status screen is enough. Having 2, and quiklly switching between em goes fast as hell :)

Anyway, GRATS!

[Ticcyboy]

Elemt Thank you soo much ive just abused it sooo once again thankyou :)

[Elemt]

Originally Posted by Fat Ticcyboy

Elemt Thank you soo much ive just abused it sooo once again thankyou :)

Glad I could help.

[ostrigal]

Is there a way to non-c gear abuse for roamers after they've been respawned via elite 4 defeat?

Thanks...

[pikabuddy]

Originally Posted by Fat Wazzup360

Small note, you dont have to hear the whole chatter. just entering hsi status screen is enough. Having 2, and quiklly switching between em goes fast as hell :)

Anyway, GRATS!

Thanks! :3

But, is there any easier way to count chatters? I may lose track counting so high up to 431. :l

[Tirade]

Is the gift Larvesta IV Frame 1 or Frame 8? I apologize if this has been answered already. I was able to get a shiny gift Monkey using a seed with Frame 1. So I'm hoping the Larvesta is also a Frame 1.

[Zerofocus]

Originally Posted by Fat Tesseraction

Congratulations! And, awesome, because I'm hungry.

Zerofocus: First you'd find a spread in the IV RNG. You wouldn't deal with encounter slots until you started dealing with PIDRNG. There should be a deeper explanation on the first page of the thread.

Yeah I've done a bunch of shiny 5th gen RNGs so I've dealt with the PIDRNG. It's just annoying to search through all the spreads and find one with my required ESV ( 5, 7, 9 , 11) and Ability (Ability 1).

EDIT: New question. My seed requires a keypress combo of "R-L". Does this mean I hit R and then L or both at the same time?

[Ashenlock]

When I searched for a seed for a stationary pokemon, with the Shiny box checked, it comes up with two different frames, the regular "Frame" and "Nearest shiny." How do I reconcile those two?

[Zerofocus]

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

When I searched for a seed for a stationary pokemon, with the Shiny box checked, it comes up with two different frames, the regular "Frame" and "Nearest shiny." How do I reconcile those two?

Frame =IV Frame
Nearest Shiny = Nearest PID Frame with a shiny pokemon

[Ashenlock]

Originally Posted by Fat Zerofocus

Frame =IV Frame
Nearest Shiny = Nearest PID Frame with a shiny pokemon

Thank you very much. I thought that's what it was, but I had to make sure. Just curious, if my Frame and Nearest Shiny are 64 and 128 respectively, is it possible for me to hit both of them without overlapping? i.e. I'll be in Terrakion's chamber trying to get him shiny, and I don't know if wild pokemon appear in it; if they do, will moving in them to advance the MTIVRNG frame move the PIDRNG too far? I don't know how to advance the former in there, since I won't be near a PC and walking back and forth within the chamber might screw the whole thing up.

Also, I'll be using a synchronizer, but RNG finder lists a nature for it already. Will having a synchronizer screw it up?

[Vladimir]

@Zerofocus: both silmutaneously immediately after you press A (or use the touch screen) to load your game

[hotdogturtle]

I'm currently saved inside the daycare and using the method where I walk out the door while holding Left and mash A to pick up my egg. I've tried getting my PID frame from Chatots a few times, but I've always been off by a few in either direction. If I go outside and save in front of the daycare man, will that change my starting PID frame? And also, will it make my PID results more consistent than walking out the door and getting the egg?

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat hotdogturtle

I'm currently saved inside the daycare and using the method where I walk out the door while holding Left and mash A to pick up my egg. I've tried getting my PID frame from Chatots a few times, but I've always been off by a few in either direction. If I go outside and save in front of the daycare man, will that change my starting PID frame? And also, will it make my PID results more consistent than walking out the door and getting the egg?

You will have to find your starting PID again with a new save. But it is much more consistent if you save in front of the daycare man.

[hotdogturtle]

That's mildly annoying, but I'm willing to give it a shot after how much I've failed so far.

Is there some sort of inconsistency in the PID after you advance it a lot of times? I'm noticing that I've gotten 1, 2, and 3 frames away from my target on both sides, but I haven't hit my target yet. Is there something about the number of advancements that causes it to skip some frames or something? Is this one of the problems that gets solved by saving in front of the guy?

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat hotdogturtle

That's mildly annoying, but I'm willing to give it a shot after how much I've failed so far.

Is there some sort of inconsistency in the PID after you advance it a lot of times? I'm noticing that I've gotten 1, 2, and 3 frames away from my target on both sides, but I haven't hit my target yet. Is there something about the number of advancements that causes it to skip some frames or something? Is this one of the problems that gets solved by saving in front of the guy?

From what I have heard changing the PID inside the house can cause the NPCs to move in a different way when you exit, and advance the PID over or under where you would have expected.

[Ashenlock]

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

Thank you very much. I thought that's what it was, but I had to make sure. Just curious, if my Frame and Nearest Shiny are 64 and 128 respectively, is it possible for me to hit both of them without overlapping? i.e. I'll be in Terrakion's chamber trying to get him shiny, and I don't know if wild pokemon appear in it; if they do, will moving in them to advance the MTIVRNG frame move the PIDRNG too far? I don't know how to advance the former in there, since I won't be near a PC and walking back and forth within the chamber might screw the whole thing up.

Also, I'll be using a synchronizer, but RNG finder lists a nature for it already. Will having a synchronizer screw it up?

New page. I haven't found this info yet.

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

New page. I haven't found this info yet.

There are wild pokemon in Terrakion's room. The only way to advance the IV frame for you would be walking in there, which will put your PID frame way over your shiny frame. Try some other months and try to find a lower IV frame.

[hotdogturtle]

Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

From what I have heard changing the PID inside the house can cause the NPCs to move in a different way when you exit, and advance the PID over or under where you would have expected.

Ok, thanks for confirming that I'm not going crazy (and that there's still hope for my shiny egg). I'm redoing the process from my save on route 3 now.

[Ashenlock]

What's a good MTIV / PID ratio to get Terrakion with? Since it takes 128 steps for 1-6 MTIVRNG advances and that number would put the PID frame at least 256 frames ahead, I would have to have a pretty incredible ratio; yet the times generated were just the opposite: this was the ONLY seed where the MTIV was lower than the PID, all the others had the MTIV higher than the PID by FAR.

[Zerofocus]

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

What's a good MTIV / PID ratio to get Terrakion with? Since it takes 128 steps for 1-6 MTIVRNG advances and that number would put the PID frame at least 256 frames ahead, I would have to have a pretty incredible ratio; yet the times generated were just the opposite: this was the ONLY seed where the MTIV was lower than the PID, all the others had the MTIV higher than the PID by FAR.

Examples of good seeds:
IV 2-6 (not 7 because you'll want to leave 1 spot open) = 1 advance
PID > 350 (256 advances from steps, 40-60 to start and anywhere from 20-50 from turns usually)

IV 7-11 (not 12 because it needs 11 advances, not 13 because you want 1 spot open) = 2 advances
PID > ~580 (512 advances from steps, 40-60 to start and anywhere from 50-100 from turns usually)

etc

[Elemt]

Originally Posted by Fat pikabuddy

Thanks! :3

But, is there any easier way to count chatters? I may lose track counting so high up to 431. :l

I count by 2s. I open my Chatot summary and go down to my 2nd chatot and count '2'. Then i go up and down '4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,2,4,6,8,30,2,4,6,8,40,2,4 ,6,8,50'. Then i start over.

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

What's a good MTIV / PID ratio to get Terrakion with? Since it takes 128 steps for 1-6 MTIVRNG advances and that number would put the PID frame at least 256 frames ahead, I would have to have a pretty incredible ratio; yet the times generated were just the opposite: this was the ONLY seed where the MTIV was lower than the PID, all the others had the MTIV higher than the PID by FAR.

My Shiny Terrakion was IV frame 4. Which required 128 steps. And my shiny PID Frame was 393. I walked 4 steps and turned to keep track of both. Thats 32 turns and 128 steps. Thats 320 PID advancements and 3 frame advancements + an extra 50 or so to the PID frame because of starting frames. About 380+ target PID frame if youre only doing 128 steps.

[GoldChico]

Anyone succeeded in using the standard RNG with flashcards?
I can not find the parameters of my flashcards. =/