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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 7:34:29 AM   #5451
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So I can IV rng breed and capture consistently now but I want to add some shiny to my collection. However even using just 3x 31 rng with flawless parents I can only find two shiny framesin the 2000 or 5000 range.

Even with 2 chatots I'm not going to chatter into the thousands. Am I missing a trick here as I'd like to get my own bred.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 7:36:56 AM   #5452
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Alright, I'm thinkin' 'bout goin' with the same seed I used for Vicitini with Zoroark (seein' how HP Ice is best for it), is the process the exact same with Vicitini? I'm sure I have to have Repel in linger, correct?

When the character automatically walks (when the event activates), do those count towards my 128 steps? Also, the patch of tall grasses won't advance the frame and mess up my steps, correct?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 8:39:56 AM   #5453
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I have one question, and it might be repeated, as since the wi-fi purging accident, I'm completely lost on this thread and have no idea of the page where I stopped reading:

Is it already possible to find your DS Parameters if you use an Acekard 2? My cousin and his girlfriend both use this flashcard, and I've wanted to teach them, but couldn't find their parameters even after a few tries and widening the ranges. I'm able to Standard abuse on my retail game, and on my wife's game, is there a trick to find the DS Parameters on Acekard 2 (using latest AKAIO and clean Pokemon Roms)?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 11:07:45 AM   #5454
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In RNG Reporter, when I click the "White Encounter Slots" option in the menu, it automatically opens Internet Explorer on my computer, which has been blacklisted by my operating system due to security flaws and such. Is there a link to those encounter slot options somewhere on the website instead of directly from the program?
Try changing your default browser? I just opened it and it opened in Firefox. That or you can try opening firefox and then clicking that link.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 11:17:41 AM   #5455
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Anyone succeeded in using the standard RNG with flashcards?
I can not find the parameters of my flashcards. =/

Anyone? I'm using R4 with latest Wood Firmware.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 11:17:59 AM   #5456
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I got stuck with 5th gen shiny breeding.

My Seed: A15E3D7A8B33C5C3
ID: 43177 SID: 14797
Seed IV's are 7/31/5/31/31/31
The Gender Ratio of my Pokémon is 50%

On PID frame 84 is Shiny, with Fe/Fe/Ma/x/x/x, according to my seed it will be Fe/Fe/Ma/31/31/31. To find my starting frame, I put both parents in the Day Care without an Everstone. Then, I got these:

Female, Adamant 7/31/31/31/31/31 DW ability
Female, Modest 7/31/31/31/31/31 DW ability 1x Chatter
Female, Adamant 7/31/31/31/31/31 DW ability 2x Chatter

I really cannot find my starting frame, who can help me? Any other info I should give?


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Female parent: 31/31/30/31/31/31
Male parent: 31/31/31/31/31/31

So, when I got to the shiny PID frame @ 84, it should be flawless.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 11:51:24 AM   #5457
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Well, I did, my target is 35, and I hit 36 the first time. So I set my timer target seconds to 34, and then I didn't even hit an adjacent, but I'll try again, thanks :)
Well, actually.. Just like in 4th gen, it seems that if you hit a minute early, it looks like a second late. That could be your problem. Make sure you have that right.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 12:11:24 PM   #5458
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I've noticed a bug about saving the spreads on Excel:

After saving the lists of spreads in Excel, there will be a time I need to copy and paste the full seed of a particular spread...
But when I paste it to the main window of RNG Reporter, it seems that the last hex character is missing, and there's a space before the first hex character.
For example, when I copy ABCDEF0123456789 from Excel, it shows up as _ABCDEF012345678 when I paste it on the main window of RNG Rep.
(And before A is only a space)
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 12:24:57 PM   #5459
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I've noticed a bug about saving the spreads on Excel:

After saving the lists of spreads in Excel, there will be a time I need to copy and paste the full seed of a particular spread...
But when I paste it to the main window of RNG Reporter, it seems that the last hex character is missing, and there's a space before the first hex character.
For example, when I copy ABCDEF0123456789 from Excel, it shows up as _ABCDEF012345678 when I paste it on the main window of RNG Rep.
(And before A is only a space)
Looks like for now you'll have to select only the characters and avoid that initial space. Will be fixed next release.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 12:49:02 PM   #5460
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For the Zoroark event, I heard that you can use a frame 1 seed, and take a step forward to trigger the event and RNG wouldn't mess up. Is that true?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 1:34:56 PM   #5461
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So, I was thinking about doing Kyurem as a shiny.
IS there anything I need to know about shiny abuse? Like what Max frame to put? Do 3 Keypresses search?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 1:35:53 PM   #5462
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I rng'ed my TID/SID yesterday the shiny frame was supposed to be on 42 which would be timid but it appeared on 44 which is careful instead, my starting frame is 41, but it's no big deal i can redo if needed and the pokes shiny with flawless iv's,
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 1:58:41 PM   #5463
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Hi!

I really appreciate all the work you've done in making this information available to us. I frequent a few other forums, and I've run into people that are interested in RNG manipulation, but are a bit intimidated by the complexity and technical detail. To this point, I think it'd make sense to try to avoid front-loading any of the nitty-gritty parts of this process, so it looks a bit friendlier.

I took a stab at editing the first few sections for this goal, and you can see what I came up with here (if you download the file to your PC, you can use track changes to see my specific comments and revisions). I'd appreciate any feedback and would be interested to know if these kinds of edits would be useful and if I should keep working on it.

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Hi!

I really appreciate all the work you've done in making this information available to us. I frequent a few other forums, and I've run into people that are interested in RNG manipulation, but are a bit intimidated by the complexity and technical detail. To this point, I think it'd make sense to try to avoid front-loading any of the nitty-gritty parts of this process, so it looks a bit friendlier.

I took a stab at editing the first few sections for this goal, and you can see what I came up with here (if you download the file to your PC, you can use track changes to see my specific comments and revisions). I'd appreciate any feedback and would be interested to know if these kinds of edits would be useful and if I should keep working on it.

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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 2:34:39 PM   #5465
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Hey guys, (bearsfan092drums in particular) :

I've been watching your video,
Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard ( aka non C Gear) Abuse for Legends/Wild Pokemon PART 1


and I'm following all the steps exactly as you show, but when I click the "search" button in the DS Parameter Finder, I don't get a result. This is my process:

1. set DS clock to 2:11
2. start game at 2:11:25, don't press anything until "gamefreak" screen
3. already in the victory road cave you're in (except rival is there too)
4. sweet scent, catch pokemon, check IVs
5. plug in precise IVs into DS Parameter finder, plug in mac address, ect
6. search starts, but then no result

Any possible diagnoses on this?
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Hey guys, (bearsfan092drums in particular) :

I've been watching your video,
Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard ( aka non C Gear) Abuse for Legends/Wild Pokemon PART 1


and I'm following all the steps exactly as you show, but when I click the "search" button in the DS Parameter Finder, I don't get a result. This is my process:

1. set DS clock to 2:11
2. start game at 2:11:25, don't press anything until "gamefreak" screen
3. already in the victory road cave you're in (except rival is there too)
4. sweet scent, catch pokemon, check IVs
5. plug in precise IVs into DS Parameter finder, plug in mac address, ect
6. search starts, but then no result

Any possible diagnoses on this?
You should post a screenshot. Also let us know if you're using a retail cart or flashcart.

@JRT: Assuming you're talking about IVRNG frame 1, no it will not mess up.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 2:41:22 PM   #5467
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For the Zoroark event, I heard that you can use a frame 1 seed, and take a step forward to trigger the event and RNG wouldn't mess up. Is that true?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 2:44:41 PM   #5468
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You should post a screenshot. Also let us know if you're using a retail cart or flashcart.
I'm using a retail cart:

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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 2:50:54 PM   #5469
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I'm using a retail cart:

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You need to put in your ENTIRE MAC Adress, that's all I can see wrong in the picture.
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 2:51:37 PM   #5470
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I wanna breed a shiny Petilil

Seed: 5fb1edc2824d5a0a
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TID: 00145 SID: 31592
Inheritance: Ma/x/Fe/x/x/Ma
IV spread: 26/31/30/30/17/30

Parents:
Mild Ditto: 31/30/31/30/31/30
Timid Petilil: 31/4/11/30/20/30

The original nature was Impish, but changed to Timid when I changed the everstone choice. Does this mean I can use the everstone to hatch a timid shiny petilil?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 3:39:37 PM   #5471
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Something unusual, if I'm supposed to get e.g. 15 spec attack, I end up getting those ivs in the stat to the left of it. This has happened a few times before.
Weird eh?
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 3:44:37 PM   #5472
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I use a Supercard DSTWO when it comes to flashcart RNGing as reccomended by Bond697 and it works brilliantly. Last I recall a few other flashcarts can't have their parameters searched because they affect how the parameters are generated while the game's being loaded, but I can't be sure so don't quote me on that :x

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I have been getting ready to RNG Thundurus and in doing so have read pretty much half of the posts in this thread. I think I have most of it down including the PID%6 technique which I am going to find VERY useful.

The only question I have left is about how the weather advances the PID and the timing on when the advancement stops. I know what rain and snow do. However in my game, the date that my seed comes on has hail. Is hail treated as rain, snow, or is it entirely different from both?
I didn't see anything related to PID advancement as it relates to hail when I was browsing the this thread. Does anyone know the answer to this?

Also, does the PID advancement stop when the roamer swoops down in front of you and does its cry or does it stop after the roamer flies away and the storm that it creates stops? I just need to get the timing down in order to have a better chance at success here.
As another note, I also had to RNG my thundurus in hail yesterday and my starting PIDs after mashing through the text were around 600, so maybe start looking there. Good luck C:
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I use a Supercard DSTWO when it comes to flashcart RNGing as reccomended by Bond697 and it works brilliantly. Last I recall a few other flashcarts can't have their parameters searched because they affect how the parameters are generated while the game's being loaded, but I can't be sure so don't quote me on that :x
I know that stands true for CycloDS, which is my flashcard, but I would like to know if anyone have any information regarding Acekard 2, running latest Akaio Firmware. I was not able to find anything, but I might've been searching on a range that wasn't wide enough.
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Alright, I'm thinkin' 'bout goin' with the same seed I used for Vicitini with Zoroark (seein' how HP Ice is best for it), is the process the exact same with Vicitini? I'm sure I have to have Repel in linger, correct?

When the character automatically walks (when the event activates), do those count towards my 128 steps? Also, the patch of tall grasses won't advance the frame and mess up my steps, correct?
Quoting for new page. Hope someone can answer :D
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Old Apr 28th, 2011, 4:05:18 PM   #5475
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So, I found a shiny spread: Frame 210/Nearest shiny: 233; Encounter Slot 0; Nature Sassy; Ability 1;31's across.

What does all of this mean? (just for argument sake)
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