5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 519

Zorrioh · Mar 2nd, 2012, 4:06:56 PM

Alright well thanks both of you for all the info. It was very helpful. I'll get it down eventually. 8D

EDIT: Oh duh I just realized how stupid my last question was rofl. Thanks again.

attila · Mar 2nd, 2012, 4:14:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

Min/max advancement refers to the amount of frames you're willing to advance to get your eggs. Setting your max advancement to zero means you wouldn't need to make any advancement. There's something tough, WNPCs will always advance some frames for you so you need to take that into consideration.

If I were you I would set the minimum to 5 and the maximum to 50. Save in front of the daycare man and make sure you have two chattos with a customized chatter on your party. Reset your clock and hit your seed,hatch the egg and compare all the information from the egg with the frames provided by your seed on the main window of RNG reporter.
Once you know how many frames the WNPC are advancing you will be able to determine how many chattos flips you will need to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat emboars

first of all setting min max advance to 0 means youll almost never get the pid frame.because the npcs in route 3 advances the pid frame no matter what. so set it to 10-100 or something.
what you have to do is,
1.save infront of the daycare man which has the egg.
2.hit your seed.
3.and when the season screen shows up, mash X so that youll get to the menu as fast as possible.(during the season screen npcs still advance the iv frame)
4.then close the menu and immediately mash A to collect your egg.
5.then fly to victory road and catch a pokemon using sweet scent.
6check its ivs.
7.in the main window of rng reporter,
set these
method= gen 5 ivs(standard seed)
encounter type wild pokemon
enter the seed you are using
hit generate.
8.if the ivs of the pokemon you just caught match one of the iv frames from 14-20(most of the time 14)
then you can verify that you definitely hit your seed(if not you hit your other timer0 value)
9.then hatch the egg you collected.
10.and in the main window
method=breeding bw
everstone =(you know it)
enter the seed
calculate initial pidrng frame(youll get a starting frame)
then generate.
11.say you got a starting frame of 47 in the window
12but because of the npcs advance the frame it will be shifted by about 2-6ish frames up.
12.then match the nature /ability/gender with the frames there.
13.so that is your starting frame now.
14.so say your starting frame for pid is 50 then you have to re-hit your seed
15.then do the above things until you open the menu.
16.advance the pid frame via chatots . number of chatot flips =50-47=3(in the example)
17.then collect your egg .do the rest.and hatch the egg
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thanks guys.

didnt realise that npcs were moving before i collected the egg. that changes things quite a lot.

Zorrioh · Mar 2nd, 2012, 5:34:35 PM

Well I just RNG'd a bred Pokemon and everything turned out right except the speed IV ended up being 2,3 when it should have been 31. All of the other IVs were 31 and they were all supposed to be 31. I used an everstone on the Pokemon and the gender even came out to be correct so it sounds like I must have hit my frame correctly, yet the Speed IV is off. It's especially weird because the speed IV was supposed to be taken from the Ditto I bred it with. (Ditto was the female) How could this be?

Edit: The Pokemon I was breeding was a Squirtle, and I just realized the output for ability was 1. Squirtle only has a 0 right? (other than dreamworld). Could/Would this be an issue?

Exploits · Mar 2nd, 2012, 8:34:42 PM

The ability isn't the issue. Did you check the Ditto Parent box in the Time Finder when you found your seed?

Zorrioh · Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:10:17 PM

Yes I did. Id also like to note that it said all 3 IVs were coming from the female (the ditto), doesn't one have to come from the male? that would make sense why one IV was off. Is that a rule or can they all come from one parent?

Exploits · Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:13:40 PM

3 IVs come from the parents. It is entirely possible for all of them to come from just one. It is possible that you messed up on your advancements. Since you're using an everstone the nature really isn't a good way to determine anything since there's a high chance of you getting the nature anyway.

Zorrioh · Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:25:53 PM

well I was going by the fact that the squirtle was female since those are usually rare plus the fact that all 5 other IVs were 31.

I'm actually at work right now and don't have that info xD I'll post it as soon as I get home in a couple hours.

EDIT: now that I think about it I may have not saved that seed, I was going to try another one because the advancements were like 79 and I was gonna try something shorter for my "first go" at this.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 2nd, 2012, 10:40:48 PM

Check if there are any other frames near your target that would make it female. 12.5% isn't exactly impossible odds. 5 perfect IVs just means you hit your seed and landed on a frame with similar inheritance, that doesn't mean much.

Zorrioh · Mar 2nd, 2012, 10:50:57 PM

If I have that saved ill take a look. I think I'll start fresh though. I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you all very much for the help.

ft688 · Mar 3rd, 2012, 1:41:54 AM

Hi guys. I'm having a super weird issue with RNG breeding. I have been doing absolutely fine for the past week getting exactly the IVs/Natures/shiny I wanted. But all of a sudden it just stopped working. I hatched a perfect Drilbur and then got ready to hatch an Abra, and I just couldn't get it to work properly.

After a while I thought that since both Pokemon I was breeding were traded and thus had different IDs/SIDs, I'd try my old tried and true routine of breeding with a traded perfect Ditto with a Pokemon from my own game. I also switched up Pokemon and decided to do it with a Charmander instead. Well, I generated the little screen and it told me my starting Initial PID Frame was 37 and the target frame was 44. To check how the NPC's have affected my actual frame, I just grab the egg before any Chatot chatters and hatch it, and finally match it with the IVs, Nature, and characteristic from the list. Then I make the necessary adjustments. So I do that (before any Chatters) and I get a shiny. First I thought that the frames were advanced all the way up to the target frame, but then I checked the Nature and it was different from Nature of the shiny the generator listed (mine was Quirky and the generator said Lax).

Now I was like "did I just get ridiculously lucky and actually get a shiny?" I check the list on the generated thing, and my Quirky Charmander had the same characteristics and even the exact same IVs as the Quirky one that was two frames behind my Charmander. WTF? Here's a pic to explain what I am talking about:

...

I am using PPRNG 1.9. All of my info (Mac address, Timer0) is in the picture I posted at the top. Any help regarding this whole situation would really be appreciated. Thank you.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 3rd, 2012, 2:28:22 AM

Are you using an international Ditto? That would make the Quirky frame shiny. And please put large images in [hide] tags in the future.

ft688 · Mar 3rd, 2012, 1:58:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Are you using an international Ditto? That would make the Quirky frame shiny. And please put large images in [hide] tags in the future.

Looked the Ditto up on PokeCheck and he is in fact an international Ditto. I'm surprised that that never messed with any of the previous RNG bred Pokemon I hatched. Thanks for helping out with that! :)

I'm still trying to get this damn Shiny Abra though. It just won't work. I changed up pokemon this time and got different Abra's (both hatched from this very game). Female has the DW ability. Got all of their IV's from PokeCheck. Pretty sure I put in all of the info right (I've been doing it this way for a while now and it's been successful). But Abra is just being an ass right now. Here are some pics of my PPRNG screens:

...

Again, to check how the WNPC's have altered my initial frame, I talk to the Old Man before any Chatot chatters. Assuming things went well, I should be getting a Nature/IV's somewhere around Frame 45. But I CONSTANTLY get a Bold Nature (Likes to Thrash About) with IV's 23/31/10/11/10/1. If it is of any help, it's PID according to PokeCheck is 0xA535F2E3.

Can anyone help out?

DDyPhoenix · Mar 3rd, 2012, 3:23:51 PM

I am using PPRNG and have ran into a couple of problems. For instance, I'll do a standard seed search for a shiny frame. When I double click on the data, the standard seed inspector no longer has the shiny frame available. Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible it changes from shiny to non shiny upon inspection of the seed? Any help would be appreciated.

Princess of Johto · Mar 3rd, 2012, 3:43:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat DDyPhoenix

I am using PPRNG and have ran into a couple of problems. For instance, I'll do a standard seed search for a shiny frame. When I double click on the data, the standard seed inspector no longer has the shiny frame available. Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible it changes from shiny to non shiny upon inspection of the seed? Any help would be appreciated.

Do you have the same ID/SID typed into the Time Finder as you do in the Main Window of PPRNG?

DDyPhoenix · Mar 3rd, 2012, 3:49:16 PM

I shall take a peek when my seeds repopulate. I had the ID/SID saved into my default. Do you think the default isn't carrying over?

**Expert Evan** · Mar 3rd, 2012, 4:18:12 PM

I noticed something a little weird trying to RNG a few things as of lately in my US black rom version. In the past my timer0 would come up as either A8C or A8D and after doing my DS parameters all over again I started noticing a timer0 value of A9D coming up instead currently for March 2012, so I'm not sure what would cause this to change.

**religiousjedi** · Mar 3rd, 2012, 4:37:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat DDyPhoenix

I am using PPRNG and have ran into a couple of problems. For instance, I'll do a standard seed search for a shiny frame. When I double click on the data, the standard seed inspector no longer has the shiny frame available. Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible it changes from shiny to non shiny upon inspection of the seed? Any help would be appreciated.

In Standard Seed Searcher window, what does it tell you about the seed? What does it tell you the shiny frame is? Does it have a Y in the Wild column?

chiizu · Mar 3rd, 2012, 7:20:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ft688

Again, to check how the WNPC's have altered my initial frame, I talk to the Old Man before any Chatot chatters. Assuming things went well, I should be getting a Nature/IV's somewhere around Frame 45. But I CONSTANTLY get a Bold Nature (Likes to Thrash About) with IV's 23/31/10/11/10/1. If it is of any help, it's PID according to PokeCheck is 0xA535F2E3.

Can anyone help out?

You hit your other Timer0 value, C7F. There is no Adjacents tab for eggs, but if you catch a Pokemon immediately after taking the egg, you can check its IVs to see whether you hit your seed or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

In Standard Seed Searcher window, what does it tell you about the seed? What does it tell you the shiny frame is? Does it have a Y in the Wild column?

The next version of PPRNG will be much clearer regarding which kinds of frames on a particular seed will be shiny.

Exploits · Mar 3rd, 2012, 9:45:37 PM

Can't seem to find my parameters using a flash cart. Have DS address in, game, and DS Lite selected. Enter the time I press A to load the game, and enter the IVs I receive after using Sweet Scent. I'm in Wellspring Cave. What should I be setting my min/max to?

emboars · Mar 3rd, 2012, 11:50:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ft688

Looked the Ditto up on PokeCheck and he is in fact an international Ditto. I'm surprised that that never messed with any of the previous RNG bred Pokemon I hatched. Thanks for helping out with that! :)

I'm still trying to get this damn Shiny Abra though. It just won't work. I changed up pokemon this time and got different Abra's (both hatched from this very game). Female has the DW ability. Got all of their IV's from PokeCheck. Pretty sure I put in all of the info right (I've been doing it this way for a while now and it's been successful). But Abra is just being an ass right now. Here are some pics of my PPRNG screens:

...

Again, to check how the WNPC's have altered my initial frame, I talk to the Old Man before any Chatot chatters. Assuming things went well, I should be getting a Nature/IV's somewhere around Frame 45. But I CONSTANTLY get a Bold Nature (Likes to Thrash About) with IV's 23/31/10/11/10/1. If it is of any help, it's PID according to PokeCheck is 0xA535F2E3.

Can anyone help out?

i think there is a problem in the rng reporter for the international breed.it was mensioned by OD few pages back.and said that it will be fixed in the next version of the rng reporter.right guys

Princess of Johto · Mar 4th, 2012, 12:06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat emboars

i think there is a problem in the rng reporter for the international breed.it was mensioned by OD few pages back.and said that it will be fixed in the next version of the rng reporter.right guys

He's using PPRNG, not RNG Reporter.

emboars · Mar 4th, 2012, 4:14:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

He's using PPRNG, not RNG Reporter.

oh my bad didnt notice that lolz

tyons · Mar 4th, 2012, 9:22:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Exploits

Can't seem to find my parameters using a flash cart. Have DS address in, game, and DS Lite selected. Enter the time I press A to load the game, and enter the IVs I receive after using Sweet Scent. I'm in Wellspring Cave. What should I be setting my min/max to?

remember not to press any button while opening the game.
try to widen the search ranges of the parameters, expecially the Timer0 and the VCount.

Odin · Mar 4th, 2012, 6:33:08 PM

nm im blind sorry

ChipFlavour · Mar 4th, 2012, 8:31:01 PM

And I need help. I found my DS Parameters. But when I used the Time Finder, no results popped up.

(I have repeated the DS Parameters setup like 4 times. I got the same result. So my I'm pretty sure my DS Parameters are correct).

For anyone wondering:

I'm using a DS Lite (Guitar Hero Model, if that actually counts),
Pokemon Black (English),
Using the date: February 3 2012 12:00:15
And catching Cobalion (saved directly in front of it).

Am I doing anything wrong?

Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:13:40 PM	#12956
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	3 IVs come from the parents. It is entirely possible for all of them to come from just one. It is possible that you messed up on your advancements. Since you're using an everstone the nature really isn't a good way to determine anything since there's a high chance of you getting the nature anyway. Last edited by Exploits; Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:26:01 PM.

Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:25:53 PM	#12957
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	well I was going by the fact that the squirtle was female since those are usually rare plus the fact that all 5 other IVs were 31. I'm actually at work right now and don't have that info xD I'll post it as soon as I get home in a couple hours. EDIT: now that I think about it I may have not saved that seed, I was going to try another one because the advancements were like 79 and I was gonna try something shorter for my "first go" at this. Last edited by Zorrioh; Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:55:46 PM.

Mar 2nd, 2012, 10:40:48 PM	#12958
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	Check if there are any other frames near your target that would make it female. 12.5% isn't exactly impossible odds. 5 perfect IVs just means you hit your seed and landed on a frame with similar inheritance, that doesn't mean much. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Mar 3rd, 2012, 1:41:54 AM	#12960
ft688 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2	Hi guys. I'm having a super weird issue with RNG breeding. I have been doing absolutely fine for the past week getting exactly the IVs/Natures/shiny I wanted. But all of a sudden it just stopped working. I hatched a perfect Drilbur and then got ready to hatch an Abra, and I just couldn't get it to work properly. After a while I thought that since both Pokemon I was breeding were traded and thus had different IDs/SIDs, I'd try my old tried and true routine of breeding with a traded perfect Ditto with a Pokemon from my own game. I also switched up Pokemon and decided to do it with a Charmander instead. Well, I generated the little screen and it told me my starting Initial PID Frame was 37 and the target frame was 44. To check how the NPC's have affected my actual frame, I just grab the egg before any Chatot chatters and hatch it, and finally match it with the IVs, Nature, and characteristic from the list. Then I make the necessary adjustments. So I do that (before any Chatters) and I get a shiny. First I thought that the frames were advanced all the way up to the target frame, but then I checked the Nature and it was different from Nature of the shiny the generator listed (mine was Quirky and the generator said Lax). Now I was like "did I just get ridiculously lucky and actually get a shiny?" I check the list on the generated thing, and my Quirky Charmander had the same characteristics and even the exact same IVs as the Quirky one that was two frames behind my Charmander. WTF? Here's a pic to explain what I am talking about: ... I am using PPRNG 1.9. All of my info (Mac address, Timer0) is in the picture I posted at the top. Any help regarding this whole situation would really be appreciated. Thank you. Last edited by ft688; Mar 3rd, 2012 at 2:35:42 AM.

Mar 3rd, 2012, 2:28:22 AM	#12961
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	Are you using an international Ditto? That would make the Quirky frame shiny. And please put large images in [hide] tags in the future. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Mar 2nd, 2012, 4:06:56 PM	#12951
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	Alright well thanks both of you for all the info. It was very helpful. I'll get it down eventually. 8D EDIT: Oh duh I just realized how stupid my last question was rofl. Thanks again.

Mar 2nd, 2012, 5:34:35 PM	#12953
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	Well I just RNG'd a bred Pokemon and everything turned out right except the speed IV ended up being 2,3 when it should have been 31. All of the other IVs were 31 and they were all supposed to be 31. I used an everstone on the Pokemon and the gender even came out to be correct so it sounds like I must have hit my frame correctly, yet the Speed IV is off. It's especially weird because the speed IV was supposed to be taken from the Ditto I bred it with. (Ditto was the female) How could this be? Edit: The Pokemon I was breeding was a Squirtle, and I just realized the output for ability was 1. Squirtle only has a 0 right? (other than dreamworld). Could/Would this be an issue?

Mar 2nd, 2012, 8:34:42 PM	#12954
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	The ability isn't the issue. Did you check the Ditto Parent box in the Time Finder when you found your seed?

Mar 2nd, 2012, 9:10:17 PM	#12955
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	Yes I did. Id also like to note that it said all 3 IVs were coming from the female (the ditto), doesn't one have to come from the male? that would make sense why one IV was off. Is that a rule or can they all come from one parent?

Mar 2nd, 2012, 10:50:57 PM	#12959
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	If I have that saved ill take a look. I think I'll start fresh though. I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you all very much for the help.

Mar 3rd, 2012, 3:23:51 PM	#12963
DDyPhoenix Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 83 Richmond, VA	I am using PPRNG and have ran into a couple of problems. For instance, I'll do a standard seed search for a shiny frame. When I double click on the data, the standard seed inspector no longer has the shiny frame available. Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible it changes from shiny to non shiny upon inspection of the seed? Any help would be appreciated. __________________ Liftoff Trade Thread!

Mar 3rd, 2012, 3:49:16 PM	#12965
DDyPhoenix Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 83 Richmond, VA	I shall take a peek when my seeds repopulate. I had the ID/SID saved into my default. Do you think the default isn't carrying over? __________________ Liftoff Trade Thread!

Mar 3rd, 2012, 4:18:12 PM	#12966
Expert Evan every battle has a smell! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,789 Southwestern Connecticut	I noticed something a little weird trying to RNG a few things as of lately in my US black rom version. In the past my timer0 would come up as either A8C or A8D and after doing my DS parameters all over again I started noticing a timer0 value of A9D coming up instead currently for March 2012, so I'm not sure what would cause this to change. __________________ EE's Official trade thread: G.O.A.T. EE - Mark 2 4th gen trade = 4383-6929-7278 \| 5th gen trade = 2493-9641-2031 \| 5th gen battle = 4126-7225-2545 Also be sure to join #smogonwifi on IRC for faster communication If you want to be cool, read and obey the rules especially the ones for WiFi.

Mar 3rd, 2012, 9:45:37 PM	#12969
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	Can't seem to find my parameters using a flash cart. Have DS address in, game, and DS Lite selected. Enter the time I press A to load the game, and enter the IVs I receive after using Sweet Scent. I'm in Wellspring Cave. What should I be setting my min/max to?

Mar 4th, 2012, 6:33:08 PM	#12974
Odin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 45	nm im blind sorry __________________ Pokemon white: 0862 2670 0580

Mar 4th, 2012, 8:31:01 PM	#12975
ChipFlavour Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4	Just started Standard RNG Abuse And I need help. I found my DS Parameters. But when I used the Time Finder, no results popped up. (I have repeated the DS Parameters setup like 4 times. I got the same result. So my I'm pretty sure my DS Parameters are correct). For anyone wondering: I'm using a DS Lite (Guitar Hero Model, if that actually counts), Pokemon Black (English), Using the date: February 3 2012 12:00:15 And catching Cobalion (saved directly in front of it). Am I doing anything wrong?