5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 521

Stiffler83 · Mar 7th, 2012, 3:13:18 PM

New Target TID: 44423
New Target SID: 03737

Target Seed: C7BBC730502DE528
Target IV frame: 1
Target PID Frame: 58

Princess of Johto · Mar 7th, 2012, 3:43:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Stiffler83

New Target TID: 44423
New Target SID: 03737

Target Seed: C7BBC730502DE528
Target IV frame: 1
Target PID Frame: 58

Frame 58 does show up shiny, so if you hit your target PID frame then it should be shiny.

But I notice that there are several other Jolly frames for you seed; are you sure you hit the right one? Also, did you calibrate for your starting PID frame correctly? Maybe you did the wrong amount of PID advancements.

Pokethan · Mar 7th, 2012, 3:49:51 PM

If I am looking for a seed for my pokemon egg and put min and max advances as 0 that means if I hit my target seed then I can just collect the egg and it will be the frame I want without having to advance the seed with Chatot at all correct?

Princess of Johto · Mar 7th, 2012, 3:55:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pokethan

If I am looking for a seed for my pokemon egg and put min and max advances as 0 that means if I hit my target seed then I can just collect the egg and it will be the frame I want without having to advance the seed with Chatot at all correct?

The NPCs could possibly make you pass up your starting frame (they will make you pass it up most likely), so it might not be the best choice. However, I've never tried this method so maybe if you take the egg fast enough then the NPCs won't advance at all. But I'm not completely sure. I would just use any seed, find my shifted starting frame, and advance accordingly next time :P

Cereza · Mar 7th, 2012, 3:58:51 PM

I don't think you'll be able to do that since I believe WNPCs start moving when the seasons screen shows up, moment at which you still have no control over your character. I'm not sure tough.

**ΩDonut** · Mar 7th, 2012, 4:04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

I don't think you'll be able to do that since I believe WNPCs start moving when the seasons screen shows up, moment at which you still have no control over your character. I'm not sure tough.

This is true. It is impossible to stop the NPCs from moving completely. They have already moved by the time you get the chance to open the menu.

Pokethan · Mar 7th, 2012, 4:08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

This is true. It is impossible to stop the NPCs from moving completely. They have already moved by the time you get the chance to open the menu.

Well that makes this kind of frustrating. I wish I could actually have some solid idea of where the frame is starting for me so I could advance accordingly but the NPCs make it so that I can't actually determine if I am even hitting my seed or not because they advance it randomly. Does anyone have any tips or ideas I could use to be able to fix this problem I am having so that I could make it easier for RNGing eggs in the future?

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 7th, 2012, 4:25:07 PM

Just hit your seed, pick up the egg without doing any advancements (or if you're feeling lucky, try to hit your target frame minus 4 or so), figure out what frame you landed on after the NPCs, then reset and hit your seed again using whatever you found as your new starting frame.

Pokethan · Mar 7th, 2012, 5:06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Just hit your seed, pick up the egg without doing any advancements (or if you're feeling lucky, try to hit your target frame minus 4 or so), figure out what frame you landed on after the NPCs, then reset and hit your seed again using whatever you found as your new starting frame.

Through experimentation of my own I found that the easiest way to hit a seed without actually having to use a chatot is by having a target frame be 4 frames away from the starting frame since the most common number of frames the npc advances by itself is 4. So that makes it about 10 times easier for rnging eggs in the future since I don't have to worry about how many the frames are advanced by. Thanks for your guys help.

BarrelRoll · Mar 7th, 2012, 6:10:22 PM

On the newest version of RNG Report, I noticed that the nature characteristics (i.e. Somewhat vain) have disappeared next to each seed.

...

To my understanding, the only way to effectively RNG an egg is to use the characteristic as a reference. In other words, I would use the characteristic to narrow down my possibilities without having to guess-and-check my egg every time.

Regardless, my question is that how will I know if I hit the right seed without the assistance of a Pokemon's characteristic? Are there other ways to determine my seed without the characteristic?

I probably worded my question very poorly; I apologize in advance.

Cereza · Mar 7th, 2012, 6:14:04 PM

Right click on any frame ->Display Parents in search -> Insert all IVs manually. ->Click ok!

That will make characteristics to appear :3

BarrelRoll · Mar 7th, 2012, 6:17:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

Right click on any frame ->Display Parents in search -> Insert all IVs manually. ->Click ok!

That will make characteristics to appear :3

Oh, sweet. Thanks! You literally saved me loads of time. :D

Stiffler83 · Mar 7th, 2012, 6:28:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Frame 58 does show up shiny, so if you hit your target PID frame then it should be shiny.

But I notice that there are several other Jolly frames for you seed; are you sure you hit the right one? Also, did you calibrate for your starting PID frame correctly? Maybe you did the wrong amount of PID advancements.

Hey, I don't know what went wrong. I tried it over again with a new seed and it worked fine. Thanks for the encouragement!

Princess of Johto · Mar 7th, 2012, 6:39:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Stiffler83

Hey, I don't know what went wrong. I tried it over again with a new seed and it worked fine. Thanks for the encouragement!

Oh, that's strange. By "new seed" do you mean a new ID/SID seed or a new IV seed?

Anyways, glad you were successful :)

Pokethan · Mar 7th, 2012, 7:56:51 PM

Hey I think someone mentioned a few pages earlier about the international breeding ivs were messed up but I wanted to know in what way because I wanted to breed some shinies and I need to know whats going on with that.

DDyPhoenix · Mar 7th, 2012, 10:19:42 PM

I have done a bunch of searches, but have not gotten a definitive answer. My question is trying to RNG surf spot or dust clouds. What is the proper way to do it? I assume if I save next to a spot, the spot won't be there when I load back in. I saw something about a 320 step counter or something, but maybe someone a bit more experienced could be able to answer for me? Help?

emboars · Mar 8th, 2012, 12:04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat BarrelRoll

On the newest version of RNG Report, I noticed that the nature characteristics (i.e. Somewhat vain) have disappeared next to each seed.

...

To my understanding, the only way to effectively RNG an egg is to use the characteristic as a reference. In other words, I would use the characteristic to narrow down my possibilities without having to guess-and-check my egg every time.

Regardless, my question is that how will I know if I hit the right seed without the assistance of a Pokemon's characteristic? Are there other ways to determine my seed without the characteristic?

I probably worded my question very poorly; I apologize in advance.

after getting the egg go to victory road and catch a pokemon by sweet scent and check its ivs.in the main window choose method iv(standard)seed,and encounter type wild pokemon.and starting frame to 1.then generate.if the ivs of your pokemon just caught matches the ivs of one of the frames 14-20 you hit your seed.go ahead and hatch your egg and determine the pid frame you hit normaly.if you didnt hit your seed (no matches) then retry hiting your seed

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Originally Posted by Fat Pokethan

Hey I think someone mentioned a few pages earlier about the international breeding ivs were messed up but I wanted to know in what way because I wanted to breed some shinies and I need to know whats going on with that.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...ostcount=12655

Im M3 · Mar 8th, 2012, 2:54:44 AM

Hi guys. I have tried to do Entralink PID Abuse, but I haven't even hitted my standard seed. I know my parameters, but I don't think I hit anything even close.
My C-Gear seeds target time is 15:31:44 with Delay of 4602. I need to soft reset my game at 15:31:24. Date of my seed is 1/1/2012.
My MAC Adress is 0019FD7E0B71.
I have tried to find what seed im hitting 3 times in Victory Road Sweet Scenting as soon as I get in game, without putting C-Gear on. I have gotten lvl 39 Deino, IVs 29 / 15 / 5 / 20 / 9 / 22, Timid nature. I have found nothing that matches the IVs.
I have checked that my date and time are right on my DS, and they are.
I have done all this with Soft Resetting. My earlier parameters were without Soft Resetting!

My old parameters are these (without SRing)
Actual Seconds: +1
VCount: 60
Timer0: C7C
GxStat: 6 (Pretty obvious)
VFrame: 8

And im using DS Lite and english Pokemon Black. If you can help me thanks!

Gonzo · Mar 8th, 2012, 4:01:48 AM

what is the minimum IV frame for Larvesta Egg?

emboars · Mar 8th, 2012, 9:35:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gonzo

what is the minimum IV frame for Larvesta Egg?

the larvesta egg gift starts from iv frame 2

Slashmolder · Mar 8th, 2012, 1:18:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

Hi guys. I have tried to do Entralink PID Abuse, but I haven't even hitted my standard seed. I know my parameters, but I don't think I hit anything even close.
My C-Gear seeds target time is 15:31:44 with Delay of 4602. I need to soft reset my game at 15:31:24. Date of my seed is 1/1/2012.
My MAC Adress is 0019FD7E0B71.
I have tried to find what seed im hitting 3 times in Victory Road Sweet Scenting as soon as I get in game, without putting C-Gear on. I have gotten lvl 39 Deino, IVs 29 / 15 / 5 / 20 / 9 / 22, Timid nature. I have found nothing that matches the IVs.
I have checked that my date and time are right on my DS, and they are.
I have done all this with Soft Resetting. My earlier parameters were without Soft Resetting!

My old parameters are these (without SRing)
Actual Seconds: +1
VCount: 60
Timer0: C7C
GxStat: 6 (Pretty obvious)
VFrame: 8

And im using DS Lite and english Pokemon Black. If you can help me thanks!

It would be much easier to help you if you posted the exact seed you were trying to hit.

If you're trying Extralink you have to do CGear seeds not Standard seeds. To test it out you'd have to turn on the CGear and then catch a Pokemon and see what IVs you get. I think you're confused and thinking you need to hit Standard and then CGear, you actually pick one of the two and do either or.

Im M3 · Mar 8th, 2012, 1:24:59 PM

I didn't know what seed I was going to hit. And with Entralink PID you need to know your standard and C-Gear seed. So I was testing what standard seed im hitting, but I didn't find anything.

Pokethan · Mar 9th, 2012, 1:58:39 AM

Hi, I was going for a shiny seed using on the RNG reporter and I hit my seed and the pokemon has the exact ivs and nature as its supposed to but for some reason its just not shiny. What could cause this to happen and how do I fix it so I can breed shinies properly?

Snapback · Mar 9th, 2012, 2:12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pokethan

Hi, I was going for a shiny seed using on the RNG reporter and I hit my seed and the pokemon has the exact ivs and nature as its supposed to but for some reason its just not shiny. What could cause this to happen and how do I fix it so I can breed shinies properly?

Did you enter your ID/SID correctly? Also I am not sure if the newest RNG Reporter fixed this, but you have to enter your ID/SID in the main window of the Reporter for it to account for it.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 9th, 2012, 2:15:43 AM

Are you sure you put in the correct ID/SID? If that's not it, check if there are any frames near your target that match.

Mar 7th, 2012, 3:58:51 PM	#13005
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,142 Long Island	I don't think you'll be able to do that since I believe WNPCs start moving when the seasons screen shows up, moment at which you still have no control over your character. I'm not sure tough. __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.

Mar 7th, 2012, 4:25:07 PM	#13008
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	Just hit your seed, pick up the egg without doing any advancements (or if you're feeling lucky, try to hit your target frame minus 4 or so), figure out what frame you landed on after the NPCs, then reset and hit your seed again using whatever you found as your new starting frame. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Mar 7th, 2012, 6:10:22 PM	#13010
BarrelRoll Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 565 New Jersey	On the newest version of RNG Report, I noticed that the nature characteristics (i.e. Somewhat vain) have disappeared next to each seed. ... To my understanding, the only way to effectively RNG an egg is to use the characteristic as a reference. In other words, I would use the characteristic to narrow down my possibilities without having to guess-and-check my egg every time. Regardless, my question is that how will I know if I hit the right seed without the assistance of a Pokemon's characteristic? Are there other ways to determine my seed without the characteristic? I probably worded my question very poorly; I apologize in advance. __________________ My Trade Thread 4th Gen Friend Code: 4040 5700 5697 5th Gen Friend Code: 3955 1965 0450 (Standard Battle Rules)

Mar 7th, 2012, 6:14:04 PM	#13011
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,142 Long Island	Right click on any frame ->Display Parents in search -> Insert all IVs manually. ->Click ok! That will make characteristics to appear :3 __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.

Mar 7th, 2012, 10:19:42 PM	#13016
DDyPhoenix Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 83 Richmond, VA	I have done a bunch of searches, but have not gotten a definitive answer. My question is trying to RNG surf spot or dust clouds. What is the proper way to do it? I assume if I save next to a spot, the spot won't be there when I load back in. I saw something about a 320 step counter or something, but maybe someone a bit more experienced could be able to answer for me? Help? __________________ Liftoff Trade Thread!

Mar 7th, 2012, 3:13:18 PM	#13001
Stiffler83 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Kelowna, BC Canada	New Target TID: 44423 New Target SID: 03737 Target Seed: C7BBC730502DE528 Target IV frame: 1 Target PID Frame: 58

Mar 7th, 2012, 3:49:51 PM	#13003
Pokethan Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 528 Wyncote, PA	If I am looking for a seed for my pokemon egg and put min and max advances as 0 that means if I hit my target seed then I can just collect the egg and it will be the frame I want without having to advance the seed with Chatot at all correct?

Mar 7th, 2012, 7:56:51 PM	#13015
Pokethan Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 528 Wyncote, PA	Hey I think someone mentioned a few pages earlier about the international breeding ivs were messed up but I wanted to know in what way because I wanted to breed some shinies and I need to know whats going on with that.

Mar 8th, 2012, 2:54:44 AM	#13018
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	Hi guys. I have tried to do Entralink PID Abuse, but I haven't even hitted my standard seed. I know my parameters, but I don't think I hit anything even close. My C-Gear seeds target time is 15:31:44 with Delay of 4602. I need to soft reset my game at 15:31:24. Date of my seed is 1/1/2012. My MAC Adress is 0019FD7E0B71. I have tried to find what seed im hitting 3 times in Victory Road Sweet Scenting as soon as I get in game, without putting C-Gear on. I have gotten lvl 39 Deino, IVs 29 / 15 / 5 / 20 / 9 / 22, Timid nature. I have found nothing that matches the IVs. I have checked that my date and time are right on my DS, and they are. I have done all this with Soft Resetting. My earlier parameters were without Soft Resetting! My old parameters are these (without SRing) Actual Seconds: +1 VCount: 60 Timer0: C7C GxStat: 6 (Pretty obvious) VFrame: 8 And im using DS Lite and english Pokemon Black. If you can help me thanks! __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Mar 8th, 2012, 4:01:48 AM	#13019
Gonzo Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 168 Not even a single fuck was given today!	what is the minimum IV frame for Larvesta Egg? __________________ Yet another trade thread ^___^ 4th Gen trades - Soul Silver: 3783 4427 5431 \|\| 5th Gen trades - Black: 0991-6499-7081

Mar 8th, 2012, 1:24:59 PM	#13022
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	I didn't know what seed I was going to hit. And with Entralink PID you need to know your standard and C-Gear seed. So I was testing what standard seed im hitting, but I didn't find anything. __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Mar 9th, 2012, 1:58:39 AM	#13023
Pokethan Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 528 Wyncote, PA	Hi, I was going for a shiny seed using on the RNG reporter and I hit my seed and the pokemon has the exact ivs and nature as its supposed to but for some reason its just not shiny. What could cause this to happen and how do I fix it so I can breed shinies properly?

Mar 9th, 2012, 2:15:43 AM	#13025
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	Are you sure you put in the correct ID/SID? If that's not it, check if there are any frames near your target that match. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?