5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 524

Princess of Johto · Mar 11th, 2012, 8:08:12 PM

Also, make sure the date you have in the parameter finder is the same date your DS is set to. Maybe you forgot to do that (you mentioned setting the DS time, but nothing about the date).

betolycan · Mar 12th, 2012, 12:15:05 AM

I think im screwing up the calibration part (I have original game so can't do the handy trick to check IVs quickly), I use an arceus that is at the deepest clearing (not with the rest but his own isolated clearing) and have my tyrogue (which i want to RNG) in the first clearing, does it matter if tyrouge is in the middle when im walkin to capture the Arceus?

Princess Emily · Mar 12th, 2012, 12:24:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat betolycan

I think im screwing up the calibration part (I have original game so can't do the handy trick to check IVs quickly), I use an arceus that is at the deepest clearing (not with the rest but his own isolated clearing) and have my tyrogue (which i want to RNG) in the first clearing, does it matter if tyrouge is in the middle when im walkin to capture the Arceus?

The tyrogue in the first clearing might screw up the calibration.
Try to move it to the deepest clearing.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 12th, 2012, 12:26:32 AM

That will only affect the nature, which doesn't matter for calibration, so don't worry about that. But you might be tripping the 128-step counter, so try expanding your frame range if you haven't already.

emboars · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:27:33 AM

if you have 2 ds's and both black and white i just catch the pokemon in the entralink and then get back from the entralink,then start my other ds and through that games entralink i start a level 100 battle and i can check the exact ivs from that.and because it doesnt require to save i can still reset and rng if it isnt right

phirre · Mar 12th, 2012, 10:10:46 AM

Quick and possibly stupid question-how long does it generally take Time Finder to find a good shiny egg frame?

I'm searching one month, with a 5-flawless spread, Everstone'd nature, DW ability, flawless parents, 0-3 keypresses, max advances 300, ID/SID inputted. It's been running for an hour and only ~10% finished searching.

My friend implied that it shouldn't take this long, and I'm not running RNG Reporter on a netbook or anything. Anything I could be doing incorrectly, or should I just be patient?

emboars · Mar 12th, 2012, 10:51:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat phirre

Quick and possibly stupid question-how long does it generally take Time Finder to find a good shiny egg frame?

I'm searching one month, with a 5-flawless spread, Everstone'd nature, DW ability, flawless parents, 0-3 keypresses, max advances 300, ID/SID inputted. It's been running for an hour and only ~10% finished searching.

My friend implied that it shouldn't take this long, and I'm not running RNG Reporter on a netbook or anything. Anything I could be doing incorrectly, or should I just be patient?

patience is what you want.even though its 10% ,within that there are a LOT of seeds.just do some other work while it searchs.oh and if one of your parent is ditto it will not show any result with DW ability.

Wata123 · Mar 12th, 2012, 1:55:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

You shouldn't need exact IVs (just put in the range the calculator gives you), so don't worry too much about that. It seems like you're doing everything right, so it's possible you entered something incorrectly (for instance, someone a while ago had trouble because they accidentally put O instead of 0 in their MAC address). Double-check everything you typed in, and try posting a screenshot of the parameter finder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

Also, make sure the date you have in the parameter finder is the same date your DS is set to. Maybe you forgot to do that (you mentioned setting the DS time, but nothing about the date).

I figured out what was wrong. I was using a 12-hour clock instead of 24-hour clock. I tried again today, and on a whim decided to type in 13:44:25 instead of 1:44:25 in RNG Reporter. And what do you know, I got my seed! Thanks for all the help, you two. Appreciate it. :)

Zorrioh · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:19:34 PM

Does anyone have an opinion on the fact that out of 12 calibrations my Timer0 has alternated C7C and C7D every single time without fail?

Also.. what does RTC stand for.. I feel like I should know this but don't remember..

Im M3 · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:31:37 PM

About timer0, you are probaply inconsistent at your timing, so it keeps changing. And RTC = Real Time Clock, if im not wrong.

Zorrioh · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:52:21 PM

I've been changing my time on purpose, except once, where I did the exact same date and time and it turned out being the same. I'm just calibrating to see which timer0 happens more often.. it's just odd the it's perfectly alternated between the 2 timer0s. I was just wondering if anyone thought anything of that.

Exploits · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:54:07 PM

Have you tried using keypresses to see which one you get more often?

If you're getting 50/50 then you might as well use them both.

Wata123 · Mar 12th, 2012, 3:19:52 PM

Last silly question: If the target frame is one, I simply use sweet scent/talk to the legendary? Or do I have to move 128 steps?

Cereza · Mar 12th, 2012, 3:22:15 PM

Just talk to it/Sweet Scent

Wata123 · Mar 12th, 2012, 4:48:53 PM

Okay, so unsurprisingly I'm still having trouble. I set up my DS parameters, follow the Smogon guide, RNG Reporter's 'time finder' function generates a sizable list of nearly perfect Pokemon. I try one, and the Golbat I catch is not even close to perfect. I try again, and catch the exact same Golbat. After the initial awe of being able to sort of control Pokemon generation, I got rather annoyed. I try a dozen more combinations. None of them work.

I've set 'keypresses' to 3. For some reason, if I check only None, 1, 2, some combination of those three, or even all 4 (None, 1, 2, and 3), RNG Reporter generates nothing. It seems that I can only get hits if I check 3 keypresses.

I've set min/max frame to 1 (meaning there is a 1 in both boxes). Method is 'IVs (standard seed)'. Encounter type is 'wild pokemon'. Encounter slot, nature, ability, ration are 'any' or in the case of that last value 'all ratios'. Month/year are March 2012.

Since I'm in Kyurem's cave, the most common Pokemon are Golbat, Sneasel, and Piloswine. With that in mind, I've set 31 ivs on all stats except sp. def. I tried setting 31 ivs to all stats, but as with the keypresses problem, nothing is generated.

My differential is 1, so I'm starting the game exactly 1 second before the time specified by RNG reporter. Immediately after I press A, I hold down the 3 buttons given in RNG Reporter. When the white Nintendo logo appears, I let go of all buttons as fast as I can, and wait until N's coronation scene. I'm don't turn on C-Gear and sweet scent right away. I'm saved right in front of Kyurem, but I don't think that should be a problem...

AlphaWolf · Mar 12th, 2012, 4:53:00 PM

Bug Report (I think) and a question.
When I use Pandora's Box to abuse my starting (S)ID, I can't see any shiny starter seeds. All of them say "False", even one I previously found (but I now can't hit my Timer0 that I calibrated, it's 1 below) now shows up as False. I can provide a screenshot/more info if required, as I can't see anything incorrect.
On the same sort of subject, if I do hit my seed and get my ID, can I save in front of the box and use regular techniques to advance my frame (probably just save again) and get my hex-flawless IVs? I'm assuming it uses Gen 5 (Standard) Gift?
EDIT: Went back and checked in 9.81 Beta and couldn't find any shiny starter seeds. I might be doing something wrong since I think I found it on 9.81. My previous question still stands though :)

tyons · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Wata123

Immediately after I press A, I hold down the 3 buttons given in RNG Reporter. When the white Nintendo logo appears, I let go of all buttons as fast as I can, and wait until N's coronation scene.

it's better to hold the buttons until the game freak animation begins. after that, you can do whatever you want. I do it like this every time and I never miss a seed (when the timer0 doesn't change randomly).

Phallylapper · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:14:24 PM

Alright, so I am searching for a shiny spread for a Cofagrigus. I got my standard seed pretty solidly. It's on frame 6, needs a bold synchronizer, it's a wild pokemon (cave spot), and the shiny frame is at 260. So then I went back and searched for shiny only in the PIDRNG and got this. Frame 52089, chatot pitch low(3), encounter slot 5, and nothing in cave spot. What does this all mean? Do I have to do 3 chatot pitches? Or do I have to advance the frame 52089 times? xD

Wata123 · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:24:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat tyons

it's better to hold the buttons until the game freak animation begins. after that, you can do whatever you want. I do it like this every time and I never miss a seed (when the timer0 doesn't change randomly).

Yes! It worked! Thank you! Caught a Piloswine and with the exception of sp. def., every iv is 31. This RNG abuse is quite nifty. ;D

**ΩDonut** · Mar 12th, 2012, 7:27:32 PM

RNG Reporter 9.95 is up.

Mostly bug fixes. The big addition is the Entralink seed search tool, which will be used for targeting specific natures on Entralink Pokemon. Users Zari and Princess_Emily are working on guides.

- Added: Instant search for 4th Gen Wondercard IVs
- Added: Entralink Seed Search tool
- Added: Chained shiny spread search (spreads only; does not search for low-chain shiny appearances)
- Improved: Time Finder and Main Window Tab order changed to a more intuitive format
- Fixed: Display Parents in Search now lists Speed\SpAttk\SpDef in correct order
- Fixed: IVs to PID no longer causes a crash
- Fixed: 5th Gen fast searching no longer misses out on slightly-flawed physical spreads
- Fixed: Cute Charm in 5th Gen previously listed every spread as affected by Cute Charm
- Fixed: Corrupt configuration files now correctly deleted instead of causing a program crash
- Fixed: Pandora's Box no longer subtracts 2000 from delay for 4th gen searches
- Re-Added: GxStat input boxes

Known bugs due to missing research:
- Bug-Catching Contest and Safari Zone shows correct encounter slots but spreads for each frame may be incorrect
- Some Black\White successful fishing frames may actually be "Not a nibble"
- Cave Spots may sometimes produces Everstones and King’s Rocks instead of the listed item

coolbiz · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:03:34 PM

Awesome thanks OmegaDonut and Others for your hardwork.

Zorrioh · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:25:30 PM

Indeed thank you.

I would like to note that even though I updated to 9.95 it keeps telling me that I need to update it every time I start it up. I've deleted it and unzipped it twice and it's still doing it. Not a big deal but I thought I should post that here, maybe I just need to restart my comp or something.

Zorrioh · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:36:35 PM

On another note, I just realized the DS Parameters Setup has a spot for a Timer0 Min and Timer0 Max, what does that mean? I thought you could only use one at a time, does it then search both? I got 2 about 50/50 so that would be cool.

Exploits · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:53:49 PM

Yes it will search for both.

Phallylapper · Mar 12th, 2012, 9:16:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Phallylapper

Alright, so I am searching for a shiny spread for a Cofagrigus. I got my standard seed pretty solidly. It's on frame 6, needs a bold synchronizer, it's a wild pokemon (cave spot), and the shiny frame is at 260. So then I went back and searched for shiny only in the PIDRNG and got this. Frame 52089, chatot pitch low(3), encounter slot 5, and nothing in cave spot. What does this all mean? Do I have to do 3 chatot pitches? Or do I have to advance the frame 52089 times? xD

New page.

Mar 11th, 2012, 8:08:12 PM	#13076
Princess of Johto Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,630 Ohio	Also, make sure the date you have in the parameter finder is the same date your DS is set to. Maybe you forgot to do that (you mentioned setting the DS time, but nothing about the date). __________________ » My Pokemon » BW Entralink PID+IV abuse guide » BW ID/SID+shiny starter abuse guide » HGSS Safari Zone abuse guide » Pokecheck Box

Mar 12th, 2012, 12:26:32 AM	#13079
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,965	That will only affect the nature, which doesn't matter for calibration, so don't worry about that. But you might be tripping the 128-step counter, so try expanding your frame range if you haven't already. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Mar 12th, 2012, 6:27:33 AM	#13080
emboars Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 206 sri lanka	if you have 2 ds's and both black and white i just catch the pokemon in the entralink and then get back from the entralink,then start my other ds and through that games entralink i start a level 100 battle and i can check the exact ivs from that.and because it doesnt require to save i can still reset and rng if it isnt right __________________

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:31:37 PM	#13085
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	About timer0, you are probaply inconsistent at your timing, so it keeps changing. And RTC = Real Time Clock, if im not wrong. __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Mar 12th, 2012, 3:22:15 PM	#13089
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,143 Long Island	Just talk to it/Sweet Scent __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.

Mar 12th, 2012, 12:15:05 AM	#13077
betolycan Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1	I think im screwing up the calibration part (I have original game so can't do the handy trick to check IVs quickly), I use an arceus that is at the deepest clearing (not with the rest but his own isolated clearing) and have my tyrogue (which i want to RNG) in the first clearing, does it matter if tyrouge is in the middle when im walkin to capture the Arceus?

Mar 12th, 2012, 10:10:46 AM	#13081
phirre Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 46 Illinois	Quick and possibly stupid question-how long does it generally take Time Finder to find a good shiny egg frame? I'm searching one month, with a 5-flawless spread, Everstone'd nature, DW ability, flawless parents, 0-3 keypresses, max advances 300, ID/SID inputted. It's been running for an hour and only ~10% finished searching. My friend implied that it shouldn't take this long, and I'm not running RNG Reporter on a netbook or anything. Anything I could be doing incorrectly, or should I just be patient?

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:19:34 PM	#13084
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	Does anyone have an opinion on the fact that out of 12 calibrations my Timer0 has alternated C7C and C7D every single time without fail? Also.. what does RTC stand for.. I feel like I should know this but don't remember..

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:52:21 PM	#13086
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	I've been changing my time on purpose, except once, where I did the exact same date and time and it turned out being the same. I'm just calibrating to see which timer0 happens more often.. it's just odd the it's perfectly alternated between the 2 timer0s. I was just wondering if anyone thought anything of that.

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:54:07 PM	#13087
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	Have you tried using keypresses to see which one you get more often? If you're getting 50/50 then you might as well use them both.

Mar 12th, 2012, 3:19:52 PM	#13088
Wata123 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 19	Last silly question: If the target frame is one, I simply use sweet scent/talk to the legendary? Or do I have to move 128 steps?

Mar 12th, 2012, 4:48:53 PM	#13090
Wata123 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 19	Okay, so unsurprisingly I'm still having trouble. I set up my DS parameters, follow the Smogon guide, RNG Reporter's 'time finder' function generates a sizable list of nearly perfect Pokemon. I try one, and the Golbat I catch is not even close to perfect. I try again, and catch the exact same Golbat. After the initial awe of being able to sort of control Pokemon generation, I got rather annoyed. I try a dozen more combinations. None of them work. I've set 'keypresses' to 3. For some reason, if I check only None, 1, 2, some combination of those three, or even all 4 (None, 1, 2, and 3), RNG Reporter generates nothing. It seems that I can only get hits if I check 3 keypresses. I've set min/max frame to 1 (meaning there is a 1 in both boxes). Method is 'IVs (standard seed)'. Encounter type is 'wild pokemon'. Encounter slot, nature, ability, ration are 'any' or in the case of that last value 'all ratios'. Month/year are March 2012. Since I'm in Kyurem's cave, the most common Pokemon are Golbat, Sneasel, and Piloswine. With that in mind, I've set 31 ivs on all stats except sp. def. I tried setting 31 ivs to all stats, but as with the keypresses problem, nothing is generated. My differential is 1, so I'm starting the game exactly 1 second before the time specified by RNG reporter. Immediately after I press A, I hold down the 3 buttons given in RNG Reporter. When the white Nintendo logo appears, I let go of all buttons as fast as I can, and wait until N's coronation scene. I'm don't turn on C-Gear and sweet scent right away. I'm saved right in front of Kyurem, but I don't think that should be a problem...

Mar 12th, 2012, 4:53:00 PM	#13091
AlphaWolf Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 72 England	Bug Report (I think) and a question. When I use Pandora's Box to abuse my starting (S)ID, I can't see any shiny starter seeds. All of them say "False", even one I previously found (but I now can't hit my Timer0 that I calibrated, it's 1 below) now shows up as False. I can provide a screenshot/more info if required, as I can't see anything incorrect. On the same sort of subject, if I do hit my seed and get my ID, can I save in front of the box and use regular techniques to advance my frame (probably just save again) and get my hex-flawless IVs? I'm assuming it uses Gen 5 (Standard) Gift? EDIT: Went back and checked in 9.81 Beta and couldn't find any shiny starter seeds. I might be doing something wrong since I think I found it on 9.81. My previous question still stands though :)

Mar 12th, 2012, 6:14:24 PM	#13093
Phallylapper Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 456	Alright, so I am searching for a shiny spread for a Cofagrigus. I got my standard seed pretty solidly. It's on frame 6, needs a bold synchronizer, it's a wild pokemon (cave spot), and the shiny frame is at 260. So then I went back and searched for shiny only in the PIDRNG and got this. Frame 52089, chatot pitch low(3), encounter slot 5, and nothing in cave spot. What does this all mean? Do I have to do 3 chatot pitches? Or do I have to advance the frame 52089 times? xD __________________ Hey.. FC: 4041 0477 5220 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3464492

Mar 12th, 2012, 7:27:32 PM	#13095
ΩDonut sometimes experimentation begins with "let's multi battle strip pokémon" Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,691	RNG Reporter 9.95 is up. Mostly bug fixes. The big addition is the Entralink seed search tool, which will be used for targeting specific natures on Entralink Pokemon. Users Zari and Princess_Emily are working on guides. - Added: Instant search for 4th Gen Wondercard IVs - Added: Entralink Seed Search tool - Added: Chained shiny spread search (spreads only; does not search for low-chain shiny appearances) - Improved: Time Finder and Main Window Tab order changed to a more intuitive format - Fixed: Display Parents in Search now lists Speed\SpAttk\SpDef in correct order - Fixed: IVs to PID no longer causes a crash - Fixed: 5th Gen fast searching no longer misses out on slightly-flawed physical spreads - Fixed: Cute Charm in 5th Gen previously listed every spread as affected by Cute Charm - Fixed: Corrupt configuration files now correctly deleted instead of causing a program crash - Fixed: Pandora's Box no longer subtracts 2000 from delay for 4th gen searches - Re-Added: GxStat input boxes Known bugs due to missing research: - Bug-Catching Contest and Safari Zone shows correct encounter slots but spreads for each frame may be incorrect - Some Black\White successful fishing frames may actually be "Not a nibble" - Cave Spots may sometimes produces Everstones and King’s Rocks instead of the listed item

Mar 12th, 2012, 8:03:34 PM	#13096
coolbiz Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 625 portal eye'd	Awesome thanks OmegaDonut and Others for your hardwork. __________________ My Pokecheck #smogonwifi is a awesome place (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡zıqןooɔ \|\|ʕ ●ᴥ●ʔ \|\| coolbiz ノ( º _ ºノ)

Mar 12th, 2012, 8:25:30 PM	#13097
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	Indeed thank you. I would like to note that even though I updated to 9.95 it keeps telling me that I need to update it every time I start it up. I've deleted it and unzipped it twice and it's still doing it. Not a big deal but I thought I should post that here, maybe I just need to restart my comp or something.

Mar 12th, 2012, 8:36:35 PM	#13098
Zorrioh Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71	On another note, I just realized the DS Parameters Setup has a spot for a Timer0 Min and Timer0 Max, what does that mean? I thought you could only use one at a time, does it then search both? I got 2 about 50/50 so that would be cool.

Mar 12th, 2012, 8:53:49 PM	#13099
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	Yes it will search for both.