5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 539

Gonzo · Apr 4th, 2012, 7:04:25 PM

OK, what's the IV starting frame for gifts and Larvesta Egg?

**voodoo pimp** · Apr 4th, 2012, 7:53:28 PM

Gifts are frame 1, Larvesta is frame 2.

SpeedSuicune · Apr 5th, 2012, 5:33:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat SpeedSuicune

I'm looking for help regarding verifying seeds through Chatot cries. What sort of Chatter should I record so that I can distinguish between the pitches?

Reposting from previous page.

Hozu · Apr 5th, 2012, 7:25:49 AM

Anything loud. Preferably something that doesn't vary in pitch.

SpeedSuicune · Apr 5th, 2012, 9:08:47 AM

Right. If I choose a frame other than 21 for Entralink abuse (one that requires advancing through walking), what PID frame range should I be looking to hit?

Im M3 · Apr 5th, 2012, 9:12:21 AM

Just look for over 100.

SpeedSuicune · Apr 5th, 2012, 12:09:54 PM

OK, this is where I don't know what I'm doing. Once I've generated standard seeds for nature abuse, how do I hit a certain one? Is it up to luck, and I just tell if I hit it through Chatot cries?

attila · Apr 5th, 2012, 9:01:20 PM

just a quick one.

i normally rng gen 5 eggs using capture spreads, then using different seeds until i can inherit the right combination of ivs.

now trying to use the 'eggs' tab in the time finder, and im a little confused. is the frame set to 8 as a default? do the min/max advances refer to the PIDRNG? is the frame listed next to the seed the PID?

**voodoo pimp** · Apr 5th, 2012, 9:12:02 PM

The Eggs tab is always on IV frame 8, so you can ignore that completely. The min/max advances and listed frame are all PIDRNG.

attila · Apr 5th, 2012, 9:57:51 PM

if i set the min/max advances to 0, does that mean i dont have to advance at all?

Cereza · Apr 5th, 2012, 10:02:03 PM

That's a bad idea because there are npcs in the area that WILL advance the frame ~3-5. I would set the minimun to anything greater than 5 until whatever I feel confortable advancing.

Snapback · Apr 5th, 2012, 10:12:45 PM

I PMed Zari about this, but seems to be MIA right now lol and I am really eager to Entralink PID abuse. So after the guide ends with, "Then, once your game has booted up, enter the game, but DON'T turn on the C-Gear when it prompts you at the continue screen." What am I supposed to do?

Im M3 · Apr 6th, 2012, 1:36:06 AM

Check your standard seed with chatots, then turn C-Gear and nature timer on. Im having trouble with this also, cause everytime I go get my poke, timed with EonTimer I get different nature. I start timer when I turn on C-Gear.

Snapback · Apr 6th, 2012, 2:22:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

Check your standard seed with chatots, then turn C-Gear and nature timer on. Im having trouble with this also, cause everytime I go get my poke, timed with EonTimer I get different nature. I start timer when I turn on C-Gear.

Which timer is the nature timer? And when do I enter the Entralink? Lol, so confused.

Im M3 · Apr 6th, 2012, 2:45:00 AM

You need second timer wich has time for the nature. And you enter to entralink at the end of your standard timer. God, it's pretty annoying that I pretty much know how to do it, but still my natures keep changing. -.-

Snapback · Apr 6th, 2012, 4:03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

You need second timer wich has time for the nature. And you enter to entralink at the end of your standard timer. God, it's pretty annoying that I pretty much know how to do it, but still my natures keep changing. -.-

Ah that's what I thought it was, but wasn't quite sure. Okay so you have 2 timers going at once?

Im M3 · Apr 6th, 2012, 4:13:55 AM

Pretty much yeah. I still haven't figured my problem. So does anyone know why I keep getting different natures, I hit my standard seed and so on, and turn on nature times when I say "yes". So annoying -.-

Snapback · Apr 6th, 2012, 4:16:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

Pretty much yeah. I still haven't figured my problem. So does anyone know why I keep getting different natures, I hit my standard seed and so on, and turn on nature times when I say "yes". So annoying -.-

Man, how confusing. So by the end of the nature timer you should be encountering the Pokemon?

Im M3 · Apr 6th, 2012, 4:21:21 AM

At the end of nature timer, say Yes to the pokemon.

Snapback · Apr 6th, 2012, 4:38:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

At the end of nature timer, say Yes to the pokemon.

Alright, I think I am ready to give this thing a try. I wish there was more of a visual guide though.

attila · Apr 6th, 2012, 8:28:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

The Eggs tab is always on IV frame 8, so you can ignore that completely. The min/max advances and listed frame are all PIDRNG.

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

That's a bad idea because there are npcs in the area that WILL advance the frame ~3-5. I would set the minimun to anything greater than 5 until whatever I feel confortable advancing.

worked a treat.

thanks guys.

SpeedSuicune · Apr 6th, 2012, 11:19:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Im M3

Check your standard seed with chatots, then turn C-Gear and nature timer on. Im having trouble with this also, cause everytime I go get my poke, timed with EonTimer I get different nature. I start timer when I turn on C-Gear.

About checking your standard seed: Does this mean that even if I hit my C-Gear seed, I may not hit my standard seed? So I'll have to continuously hit my C-Gear seed until I happen to hit my standard seed, too?

Im M3 · Apr 6th, 2012, 11:23:57 AM

Well you usually will hit your standard seed, but not always. So you pretty much hit your standard seed and try to hit your C-Gear seed and not the other way around.

And I am still needing help myself, there's probaply something im missing, so if someone knows what I could be doing wrong, please tell me. (About Entralink PID)
I am

-Checking Entralink Pokemon
-Adding 3 to initial from chatots
-Inputting correct gender stuff
-Using EonTimer to time correctly to certain frame
-having only one poke in Forest Clearing

SpeedSuicune · Apr 6th, 2012, 11:54:33 AM

Thanks for the help. I'm starting to get the hang of this now. Is it possible to hit "skip" frames?

Wata123 · Apr 6th, 2012, 12:00:52 PM

So for the first time ever, in over 10 years of playing Pokémon, I FINALLY encountered a shiny. One that wasn't a Gyarados and was actually catch-able unlike those troll pokemon at the Battle Frontier. And I caught it in a Premier Ball at that. Many thanks to Princess of Johto, voodoo pimp, and the other guys/gals who offered tips. You guys are math.

Anyway, there are still a few things I want t clarify involving frame advancement. I was searching for some info and I found a list of areas with no NPCs:

...

What's odd is that Route 9 has not only one, but two moving NPCs. Yet, it's here where I caught my shiny Duosion. On the other hand, Lostlorn forest has no NPCs, but I just kept on seeing a regular Swadloon. I'm thinking the waterfall in the forest might be advancing my frame...? Celestial Tower is the same with a regular Litwick that keeps showing up. Furthermore, when I tried sweet scenting in Dragonspiral Tower, it simply wouldn't work, saying that there appears to be nothing present. Is it possible that the water might be affecting frames? Same thing happened at Victory Road (exterior), but there's nothing there that I can think of.

Also, I'm guessing that in the gender slot, the higher the percentage, the more likely the pokemon will be of that gender?

Apr 4th, 2012, 7:04:25 PM	#13451
Gonzo Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 168 Not even a single fuck was given today!	OK, what's the IV starting frame for gifts and Larvesta Egg? __________________ Yet another trade thread ^___^ 4th Gen trades - Soul Silver: 3783 4427 5431 \|\| 5th Gen trades - Black: 0991-6499-7081

Apr 4th, 2012, 7:53:28 PM	#13452
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,954	Gifts are frame 1, Larvesta is frame 2. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Apr 5th, 2012, 7:25:49 AM	#13454
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,174 Orre	Anything loud. Preferably something that doesn't vary in pitch. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Apr 5th, 2012, 9:12:21 AM	#13456
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	Just look for over 100. __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 5th, 2012, 9:12:02 PM	#13459
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,954	The Eggs tab is always on IV frame 8, so you can ignore that completely. The min/max advances and listed frame are all PIDRNG. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Apr 5th, 2012, 9:08:47 AM	#13455
SpeedSuicune Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 58 Ireland	Right. If I choose a frame other than 21 for Entralink abuse (one that requires advancing through walking), what PID frame range should I be looking to hit?

Apr 5th, 2012, 12:09:54 PM	#13457
SpeedSuicune Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 58 Ireland	OK, this is where I don't know what I'm doing. Once I've generated standard seeds for nature abuse, how do I hit a certain one? Is it up to luck, and I just tell if I hit it through Chatot cries?

Apr 5th, 2012, 9:01:20 PM	#13458
attila Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 39	just a quick one. i normally rng gen 5 eggs using capture spreads, then using different seeds until i can inherit the right combination of ivs. now trying to use the 'eggs' tab in the time finder, and im a little confused. is the frame set to 8 as a default? do the min/max advances refer to the PIDRNG? is the frame listed next to the seed the PID?

Apr 5th, 2012, 9:57:51 PM	#13460
attila Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 39	if i set the min/max advances to 0, does that mean i dont have to advance at all?

Apr 5th, 2012, 10:02:03 PM	#13461
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,142 Long Island	That's a bad idea because there are npcs in the area that WILL advance the frame ~3-5. I would set the minimun to anything greater than 5 until whatever I feel confortable advancing. __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.

Apr 5th, 2012, 10:12:45 PM	#13462
Snapback Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 280	I PMed Zari about this, but seems to be MIA right now lol and I am really eager to Entralink PID abuse. So after the guide ends with, "Then, once your game has booted up, enter the game, but DON'T turn on the C-Gear when it prompts you at the continue screen." What am I supposed to do?

Apr 6th, 2012, 1:36:06 AM	#13463
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	Check your standard seed with chatots, then turn C-Gear and nature timer on. Im having trouble with this also, cause everytime I go get my poke, timed with EonTimer I get different nature. I start timer when I turn on C-Gear. __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 6th, 2012, 2:45:00 AM	#13465
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	You need second timer wich has time for the nature. And you enter to entralink at the end of your standard timer. God, it's pretty annoying that I pretty much know how to do it, but still my natures keep changing. -.- __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 6th, 2012, 4:13:55 AM	#13467
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	Pretty much yeah. I still haven't figured my problem. So does anyone know why I keep getting different natures, I hit my standard seed and so on, and turn on nature times when I say "yes". So annoying -.- __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 6th, 2012, 4:21:21 AM	#13469
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	At the end of nature timer, say Yes to the pokemon. __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 6th, 2012, 11:23:57 AM	#13473
Im M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 192	Well you usually will hit your standard seed, but not always. So you pretty much hit your standard seed and try to hit your C-Gear seed and not the other way around. And I am still needing help myself, there's probaply something im missing, so if someone knows what I could be doing wrong, please tell me. (About Entralink PID) I am -Checking Entralink Pokemon -Adding 3 to initial from chatots -Inputting correct gender stuff -Using EonTimer to time correctly to certain frame -having only one poke in Forest Clearing __________________ We like 'em RARE! My 3rd Gen RNG Guide If I ask CMT, please reply in my thread! My FC: 5200 6882 8217 (Black)

Apr 6th, 2012, 11:54:33 AM	#13474
SpeedSuicune Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 58 Ireland	Thanks for the help. I'm starting to get the hang of this now. Is it possible to hit "skip" frames?

Apr 6th, 2012, 12:00:52 PM	#13475
Wata123 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 19	So for the first time ever, in over 10 years of playing Pokémon, I FINALLY encountered a shiny. One that wasn't a Gyarados and was actually catch-able unlike those troll pokemon at the Battle Frontier. And I caught it in a Premier Ball at that. Many thanks to Princess of Johto, voodoo pimp, and the other guys/gals who offered tips. You guys are math. Anyway, there are still a few things I want t clarify involving frame advancement. I was searching for some info and I found a list of areas with no NPCs: ... Wellspring Cave (1F-B1F) Rumination Field (For the sake of being thorough) Relic Castle (1F-B6F) Lostlorn Forest Chargestone Cave (B1F) Celestial Tower (3F-5F) Twist Mountain (Cave with Exit to Icirrus City) Route 17 P2 Laboratory Mistralton Cave (2F-Guidance Chamber) Dragonspiral Tower Entrance (North of Icirrus City, not the area with the bridge) Dragonspiral Tower Interior (1F-2F) Route 9 Route 10 (South of Victory Road; the third area of the Badge Check Gates) Victory Road (1F1, 1F2, 1F3, 2F2, 5F, 7F) Victory Road (Exterior) Trial Chamber Marvelous Bridge Giant Chasm (Outside) Giant Chasm (Outer Cave) Giant Chasm (Inner Cave; including Kyurem’s Cave) Challenger’s Cave (1F) What's odd is that Route 9 has not only one, but two moving NPCs. Yet, it's here where I caught my shiny Duosion. On the other hand, Lostlorn forest has no NPCs, but I just kept on seeing a regular Swadloon. I'm thinking the waterfall in the forest might be advancing my frame...? Celestial Tower is the same with a regular Litwick that keeps showing up. Furthermore, when I tried sweet scenting in Dragonspiral Tower, it simply wouldn't work, saying that there appears to be nothing present. Is it possible that the water might be affecting frames? Same thing happened at Victory Road (exterior), but there's nothing there that I can think of. Also, I'm guessing that in the gender slot, the higher the percentage, the more likely the pokemon will be of that gender? Last edited by Wata123; Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:15:46 PM.