5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Treven]

hi how do you rng wondercards,where to the seed,method etc with standerd seed rng, also i tried searching under wondercard method and i noticed the sid,id highlighted grey , does this mean u cant rng shiny wondercards?

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Treven

hi how do you rng wondercards,where to the seed,method etc with standerd seed rng, also i tried searching under wondercard method and i noticed the sid,id highlighted grey , does this mean u cant rng shiny wondercards?

RNGing wondercards is easy. Just save in a Pokemon Center with no NPCs, hit your standard seed, and advance to your target frame (you have to advance the PID RNG, taking steps won't work. Chatot is the easiest, but saving also works). The method would be Wondercard in the time finder. In the main window, it would be Wondercard (5th gen.).

Wondercards can't be RNGd to be shiny; they're either always shiny or never shiny. I hope this answered your questions.

OD Edit: Some special currently Japan-only wondercards can be shiny if you RNG them to be shiny. Everything else PoJ said is correct

[Treven]

hi i tried it out ,i saved in pcenter in the league, i dont know why but it does'nt seem to match any of the frames or nature of the seed,is there anything im doing wrong ,is there a min frame to search for wondercards,also the pokemon im trying to rng is the v create mov14 victini ,does it fall under wonder card or glan wondercard

[Slashmolder]

Originally Posted by Fat Treven

hi i tried it out ,i saved in pcenter in the league, i dont know why but it does'nt seem to match any of the frames or nature of the seed,is there anything im doing wrong ,is there a min frame to search for wondercards,also the pokemon im trying to rng is the v create mov14 victini ,does it fall under wonder card or glan wondercard

Being genderless Victini is not GLAN (glan stands for Gender Locked Any Nature). Wondercards should be searchable by min/max advances not frame. The actual starting frame for the seed is variable and in the main window you should use the Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame button to see what your initial frame is.

To help figure out what seed you hit it is usually best to use the Adjacent Seed Tool (right click on the time finder result and choose Generate Adjacent Seeds...).

[Zelen]

How does the "Calculate Initial PIDRNG" works actually/how does the RNG program calculate it? I'm curious because sometimes I feel like I'm hitting lower frames that RNGReporter states. It can be all my imagination since I don't master the Chatot's cry tehnique yet.

[Ericcc]

The starting frame when rnging an egg changes every time you save? Or any starting frame for that matter?

[masterbreeder]

With Standard Seeds, are there any process differences (beside having to use an external clock) between RNG manipulation on a DSi compared to the one I'm used to using, a DS Lite?

[Cereza]

Originally Posted by Fat Zelen

How does the "Calculate Initial PIDRNG" works actually/how does the RNG program calculate it? I'm curious because sometimes I feel like I'm hitting lower frames that RNGReporter states. It can be all my imagination since I don't master the Chatot's cry tehnique yet.

It should always start where it tells you to. More information would be great however :3

Originally Posted by Fat Ericcc

The starting frame when rnging an egg changes every time you save? Or any starting frame for that matter?

They don't change. However, keep in mind that the NPCs movement will-as they will start at different locations-, so that means the advances they make will most likely be different.

Originally Posted by Fat masterbreeder

With Standard Seeds, are there any process differences (beside having to use an external clock) between RNG manipulation on a DSi compared to the one I'm used to using, a DS Lite?

The process is exactly the same, just make sure to remember you'll need to find the parameters for your new console.

[Ericcc]

Thanks for responding. I succeeded with my first egg shiny abuse!!!!

[Linkenfant]

Hi everyone !

Well, I've been told about the Cute Charm problem in Gen IV (and how it could help finding lot of shinies).
What I want to do is abuse both my ID and SID so that they're the same, in an official retail cartridge.
I have a Pearl version which I can start again for that, but the problem is : how can I do that with RNG Reporter ?

I don't have much knowledge in RNG manipulating, but I've hatched many shiny eggs in Platinum with RNG anyway.

So, first of all :

Is it possible and not too much long to have the same ID and SID in my Pearl version with RNG Reporter's Pandora's Box ?
If yes, how do I do that ? =)

I'm using the latest version of RNG Reporter btw, 9.95 BETA.

Thanks !

[Cereza]

Originally Posted by Fat Linkenfant

Hi everyone !

Well, I've been told about the Cute Charm problem in Gen IV (and how it could help finding lot of shinies).
What I want to do is abuse both my ID and SID so that they're the same, in an official retail cartridge.
I have a Pearl version which I can start again for that, but the problem is : how can I do that with RNG Reporter ?

I don't have much knowledge in RNG manipulating, but I've hatched many shiny eggs in Platinum with RNG anyway.

So, first of all :

Is it possible and not too much long to have the same ID and SID in my Pearl version with RNG Reporter's Pandora's Box ?
If yes, how do I do that ? =)

I'm using the latest version of RNG Reporter btw, 9.95 BETA.

Thanks !

Hey dear! This thread is to ask questions regarding 5th gen RNG abuse. You might want to take this question here.

[Linkenfant]

Oh sorry about that, I didn't notice the topic's name which indeed is about 5G.

[AvoKitty]

Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

Hey dear! Good news, RNG is now possible on all consoles so you can RNG {no C-gear} I would love to help you but I won't be avilable 'till Monday, if you're up to it tough just send me a message

Awesome,i never knew ^^~Thnks,i really want to get started RNG'ng,so let me know when your next online

[Nightmare]

Quick question

When it comes to keypresses, where you do press them?

-James

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Quick question

When it comes to keypresses, where you do press them?

-James

I recommend that you start holding them down before you hit A to start the game from the main menu (unless one of them is A, obviously, in which case you'd just keep holding it down after you press it) so that you don't accidentally fumble it. Keep holding them until after the Nintendo logo.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

I recommend that you start holding them down before you hit A to start the game from the main menu (unless one of them is A, obviously, in which case you'd just keep holding it down after you press it) so that you don't accidentally fumble it. Keep holding them until after the Nintendo logo.

Thank you.

-James

[Mackenzie]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

I recommend that you start holding them down before you hit A to start the game from the main menu (unless one of them is A, obviously, in which case you'd just keep holding it down after you press it) so that you don't accidentally fumble it. Keep holding them until after the Nintendo logo.

interesting. i never thought of holding them down before pressing a. will try this the next time i rng. very informative, thanks.

[Nightmare]

Is there any way to verify seeds in the 5th Gen like the 4th? I'm hitting something wrong and don't really know how to check it.

-James

[-NLMRY-]

Hi, I am trying to RNG a Cobalion and I'm having trouble getting the correct nature (Jolly). I have set my parameters and have found a spread that works. I am using PPRNG v1.11.1 and it's telling me that my spread is on Frame 47| Chatot Hi (98)| Nature <SYNC> I am using a synchronizer but when I hit my seed its nature is Bold. This has only happened twice now so I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if synchronize has just failed twice now. I've tried to be as detailed as I can but I'm new to RNG (I've only RNGed one pokemon so far) so I'm not sure which questions are the right ones to ask.

[Zelen]

@Cereza Ty from your response. It seems I did hit wrong Timer0 after all so the chatot pitches didn't match. :p I found few similar chatot pitch lines under the initial pidrng frame so I thought the start frame was lower.

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Is there any way to verify seeds in the 5th Gen like the 4th? I'm hitting something wrong and don't really know how to check it.

-James

Depends on what you are trying to RNG and what method you are using (Standard Seed or CGear?) You can use Chatots to verify your PID frame and IVs to check your Seed (In Gen V nature and IVs are separated).

Originally Posted by Fat -NLMRY-

Hi, I am trying to RNG a Cobalion and I'm having trouble getting the correct nature (Jolly). I have set my parameters and have found a spread that works. I am using PPRNG v1.11.1 and it's telling me that my spread is on Frame 47| Chatot Hi (98)| Nature <SYNC> I am using a synchronizer but when I hit my seed its nature is Bold. This has only happened twice now so I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if synchronize has just failed twice now. I've tried to be as detailed as I can but I'm new to RNG (I've only RNGed one pokemon so far) so I'm not sure which questions are the right ones to ask.

Hey can you post a screenshot from the PPRNG window that shows the seed you're trying to hit? It would be easier to help. =)

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Fat Zelen

Depends on what you are trying to RNG and what method you are using (Standard Seed or CGear?) You can use Chatots to verify your PID frame and IVs to check your Seed (In Gen V nature and IVs are separated).

Trying to RNG Terrakion (first time B/W growing pains here, I know). The Chatot calls seem not to come out right ever. I'm constantly getting the same thing over and over.

-James

[voodoo pimp]

Verify your seed using the IVs; if they're not what you wanted, then use the Adjacent Seed Tool, either from the main window under 5th Gen Tools or by right-clicking your seed in Time Finder. The fact that you're getting the same Chatot pattern every time suggests you're hitting the same (wrong) seed every time, probably your alternate Timer0.

[Zelen]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Trying to RNG Terrakion (first time B/W growing pains here, I know). The Chatot calls seem not to come out right ever. I'm constantly getting the same thing over and over.

-James

I'd recommend you to find Seed that has IV spread you like at frame 1. That makes PIDRNG so much easier. And takes less time to figure out whether you did hit the correct seed or not.

[-NLMRY-]

Originally Posted by Fat Zelen

Hey can you post a screenshot from the PPRNG window that shows the seed you're trying to hit? It would be easier to help. =)

In my original post I said that it was frame 47, but I believe that it is PID frame 47 so before I encounter Cobalian I turn 23 times and save once (I currently do not have a Chatot, if anyone wants to help me with that I would be forever greatful). The only times I have hit the spread are when I do this. Hope this helps, thanks!

[FSLAR]

How do I advance a normal frame in Method Standard Seed, and the Shiny Frame?