5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[religiousjedi]

Originally Posted by Fat -NLMRY-

In my original post I said that it was frame 47, but I believe that it is PID frame 47 so before I encounter Cobalian I turn 23 times and save once (I currently do not have a Chatot, if anyone wants to help me with that I would be forever greatful). The only times I have hit the spread are when I do this. Hope this helps, thanks!

PID Frame does not start on frame 1. PID Frame usually starts between frame 40-60. Important not to mix up IV frame and PID frame (two separate things). PPRNG also tells you what your starting PID frame is near the top (labeled "Initial PID frame").

[-NLMRY-]

Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

PID Frame does not start on frame 1. PID Frame usually starts between frame 40-60. Important not to mix up IV frame and PID frame (two separate things). PPRNG also tells you what your starting PID frame is near the top (labeled "Initial PID frame").

Ok that clears that up a little bit. I see where it says "initial pid frame" and it starts on 47, same as listed next to Chatot. Does this mean that I don't have to do any advances and just start the battle as soon as the season screen clears?

[religiousjedi]

Originally Posted by Fat -NLMRY-

Ok that clears that up a little bit. I see where it says "initial pid frame" and it starts on 47, same as listed next to Chatot. Does this mean that I don't have to do any advances and just start the battle as soon as the season screen clears?

If that's what it says, yes.

[Nightmare]

I got a Jolly Terrakion, 31/31/31/30/31/31

But my question is:

Why was it n - 1 Chatot calls? I got my frame and I had to put it 1 behind to work.

Why is this? Seems weird or the instructional video is wrong?

-James

[-NLMRY-]

Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

If that's what it says, yes.

Ok, I got it! Thank you for your help :)

[FSLAR]

I'm going for a Shiny Jolly Terrakion, and I hit my seed but it wasn't Shiny. It had a Quiet Nature but the right IVs. My shiny frame is 82, and my regular frame is 4. I think I missed the shiny frame a bit, but is there anything else that could have gone wrong? I also hit a Hasty nature, and Jolly nature on two other attempts but neither were shiny. What is going wrong?
EDIT: I didn't abuse for my ID/SID, I used an AR code to find my SID. I did a search under standard to see if I could find anything.

[-NLMRY-]

When searching for Shiny egg seeds in PPRNG 1.11.1 using Ditto, which gender slot do you fill in for Ditto's IV's? Is it just the opposite of whatever species being bred for? I have a flawless Ditto, and a Female Shroomish (27/28/05/30/12/03) and I want to breed a shiny flawless Shroomish.

[Cereza]

Originally Posted by Fat FSLAR

I'm going for a Shiny Jolly Terrakion, and I hit my seed but it wasn't Shiny. It had a Quiet Nature but the right IVs. My shiny frame is 82, and my regular frame is 4. I think I missed the shiny frame a bit, but is there anything else that could have gone wrong? I also hit a Hasty nature, and Jolly nature on two other attempts but neither were shiny. What is going wrong?

Everytime you waln in an area with wild pokemon the PID frame advances by two. You need to walk 128 steps to get to your IVs frame. The lowest possible PID frame you can hit is 256, oh and turning also advances the frame so you're probably hitting a much higher frame.

^if the mother slot is already taken then ditto can only take the dad's slot.

[FSLAR]

Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

Everytime you waln in an area with wild pokemon the PID frame advances by two. You need to walk 128 steps to get to your IVs frame. The lowest possible PID frame you can hit is 256, oh and turning also advances the frame so you're probably hitting a much higher frame.

^if the mother slot is already taken then ditto can only take the dad's slot.

So I'm hitting frame 256 and not 82 then? Guess I'll for another seed then.

[voodoo pimp]

256 plus your starting frame plus a few miscellanous other advancements, actually. I recommend using only IV frame 1 if at all possible, it makes life so much easier.

[Nightmare]

Which methods are the eggs from the anime event (the Pansage, Axew, and the Pidove?)

-James

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Which methods are the eggs from the anime event (the Pansage, Axew, and the Pidove?)

-James

They're probably Method 5, encounter type would be Gift Pokemon. I'm not sure, though, but that seems the most logical. :o

[Nightmare]

Is there any way we can have non-stationary Pokemon's methods listed in one of the posts? Still confused on this Wondercard/GLAN Wondercard stuff.

Also asking, Zorua in-game is Wondercard Method, right?

-James

[Zelen]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Is there any way we can have non-stationary Pokemon's methods listed in one of the posts? Still confused on this Wondercard/GLAN Wondercard stuff.

Also asking, Zorua in-game is Wondercard Method, right?

-James

I think in-game Zorua is created by gift method since it's not from Nintendo event. Not sure tho.

GLAN means Gender Locked Any Nature and it's for pokémon like Thundurus/Tornadus/Cresselia or such pokémon that can be only male or female

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Is there any way we can have non-stationary Pokemon's methods listed in one of the posts? Still confused on this Wondercard/GLAN Wondercard stuff.

Also asking, Zorua in-game is Wondercard Method, right?

-James

GLAN = Gender Locked Any Nature. It applies to any wondercard Pokemon that will always be the same gender when it's downloaded, unless that Pokemon is genderless/already has a fixed gender. For example, the Thundurus/Tornadus WCs are not GLAN because they are 100% male. However, if there was a Scraggy WC that was always male when you downloaded it, it would be GLAN because Scraggy normally has a chance to be female. I hope this makes sense.

Why would it be a Wondercard? You didn't download a Wondercard over WiF in order to receive it, so it's not Wondercard. It's a gift Pokemon. :p

Edit@ Zelen, GLAN is not when there's a WC that gives a fixed gender Pokemon. GLAN is when Nintendo or whoever gives out these events gives out a Pokemon that can be male or female normally, but they fix it so the event will only be one of those genders when downloaded.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

GLAN = Gender Locked Any Nature. It applies to any wondercard Pokemon that will always be the same gender when it's downloaded, unless that Pokemon is genderless/already has a fixed gender. For example, the Thundurus/Tornadus WCs are not GLAN because they are 100% male. However, if there was a Scraggy WC that was always male when you downloaded it, it would be GLAN because Scraggy normally has a chance to be female. I hope this makes sense.

Why would it be a Wondercard? You didn't download a Wondercard over WiF in order to receive it, so it's not Wondercard. It's a gift Pokemon. :p

There was the Spiky-Eared Pichu in HG/SS that was Wondercard Method. So I'm just double-checking. ;-P

-James

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

There was the Spiky-Eared Pichu in HG/SS that was Wondercard Method. So I'm just double-checking. ;-P

-James

Oh, I remember that. But that was the Pichu that was the wondercard, not the Zorua. So just remember this if you have any future questions about methods c:

[Nightmare]

Is it possible to change the nature of Wondercard Pokemon, or do I have to just search seeds until I find the right nature/IV spread, etc.? There seems to be little documentation of the process except to go to Victory Road.

-James

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Is it possible to change the nature of Wondercard Pokemon, or do I have to just search seeds until I find the right nature/IV spread, etc.? There seems to be little documentation of the process except to go to Victory Road.

-James

You search for a seed with the nature you want by using the Time Finder. If you didn't read this guide yet, I think it will help!

Edit: Actually no, don't read that guide. It's kind of outdated and confusing. Just ask questions here :x

[Nightmare]

As I thought, the hard way. Thank you!

-James

[voodoo pimp]

Nature and IVs are both tied to the PID frame (Wonder Cards don't use the regular IV RNG at all), so you just have to keep searching until you find a frame that has everything you want.

Also, I'm not sure how Victory Road ties into it at all, unless the guide was trying to say that you should do it in the Pokémon League Pokémon Center where there are no NPCs.

[-NLMRY-]

I'm using PPRNG to find a seed that will allow me to hatch a shiny physical flawless Shroomish with a careful nature. I am using a Ditto that I RNG myself (31/31/31/10/31/31), and a serious Shroomish from my Emerald cart (27/28/05/30/12/03). After I make a selection from the list of potential seeds, the standard inspector opens and I select the Ditto box and hit generate. When I do this the nature that I want no longer appears as shiny. I am unsure what I should be doing from here, please help. I have tried to be detailed but I can give more info as needed.

EDIT: It seems to shift the shiny frames up by one when I select Ditto, but if I do not they stay the same.

[voodoo pimp]

Ditto as a parent affects the PID generation, you need to check it when you first do the search.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Nature and IVs are both tied to the PID frame (Wonder Cards don't use the regular IV RNG at all), so you just have to keep searching until you find a frame that has everything you want.

Also, I'm not sure how Victory Road ties into it at all, unless the guide was trying to say that you should do it in the Pokémon League Pokémon Center where there are no NPCs.

Yeah, that's what was said. Do it there to avoid wandering NPC's the best you can.

Questions about Lostlorn Forest:

1. When out of the grass does it count as an area with or without wild Pokemon?
2. How much does the IV seed advance when you take the 1 step forward to get Zoroark?

-James

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Yeah, that's what was said. Do it there to avoid wandering NPC's the best you can.

Questions about Lostlorn Forest:

1. When out of the grass does it count as an area with or without wild Pokemon?
2. How much does the IV seed advance when you take the 1 step forward to get Zoroark?

-James

1. No, you have to be in the grass for the PID frame to advance.

2. It shouldn't advance at all unless the step counter is at 127 steps. If it's an autowalk step, then I don't think it would count towards the step counter. But I'm not completely sure about autowalks. To put it simply, the IV frame will most likely not advance at all.