5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[richm88]

Originally Posted by Fat Ewokese

You appear to have gotten a bit confused about the different RNGs.

There is the IVRNG and the PIDRNG. You are right about how to advance the IVRNG, but you have to bear in mind that walking and turning in an area where pokemon can appear also advances the PIDRNG. You likely don't want such a highly advanced PID frame, which will be causing you problems with the pokemon that appears.

It is not reccommended to go for an IV frame higher than 1. Sticking to an IV frame of 1 makes PIDRNG advancements easier.

When you have found a desirable seed, you should put it into RNG reporter's main window and select "Gen 5 IVs (standard seed)" as your method. You should then confirm that the IVs you want are on frame 1, and then change the method to "Gen 5 PIDRNG". At this point, you should also click the "Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame" button. This will give you your starting frame for your PID advances.

At this point, you should start attempting to hit your seed. You would be well advised to capture a pokemon without doing any advances first, to check that you hit the correct seed and to check what PIDRNG frame you're starting on. Once you know this, hit your seed again and do the correct number of advances to hit your desired PIDRNG frame.

Hope this helps ^_^

thanks this is probably where im going wrong, i have all the info for a metang put in so i will change what i need to and see how i go update: i have clicked claculate initial PIDRNG frame and i changed my method first and it is not coming up with any results , on capture i also have the min frame at1 and max at 6 as it will not find what i am after when it is 1and1
** update** i have changed the stats slightly and i have got a metang that is almost flawless which is good enough, the main winow says frame1 and encounter slot 2 there is also a PID number which means nothing to me and also ( chatot low (0) ) which i do not understand
i just clikced on 5th gen tools /black encounters and metang lvl53 is location 7 ?????
i am actually stuck now as i do not understand if i actually need to use the chatot with it being frame 1 as i do not need to move but i do not understand encounter slots

[richm88]

can someone help me please, i know i shouldn't double post but i am absolutly desperate, i have been trying to do this since 10am

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

thanks this is probably where im going wrong, i have all the info for a metang put in so i will change what i need to and see how i go update: i have clicked claculate initial PIDRNG frame and i changed my method first and it is not coming up with any results , on capture i also have the min frame at1 and max at 6 as it will not find what i am after when it is 1and1
** update** i have changed the stats slightly and i have got a metang that is almost flawless which is good enough, the main winow says frame1 and encounter slot 2 there is also a PID number which means nothing to me and also ( chatot low (0) ) which i do not understand
i just clikced on 5th gen tools /black encounters and metang lvl53 is location 7 ?????
i am actually stuck now as i do not understand if i actually need to use the chatot with it being frame 1 as i do not need to move but i do not understand encounter slots

If searching frame 1/1 doesn't give you any results, then either lower what you're looking for (which you did), add keypresses if you haven't already, or search more months. I often have to go through several years before finding a good seed if I'm looking for something really specific.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying, a screenshot would be really helpful. Just use the PrtScn button on your keyboard, paste it into Paint or a similar program, save it, then upload the file to an image hosting site like http://imgur.com/ and post the link it gives you here.

[richm88]

i have just tried putting it to one button press and 2 frames as i can move to frame 2 by saving as i don't have a chatter chatot. am i right in saying you have to get the encounter slot right where the pokemon sit in the black table (as i am using black)

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

i have just tried putting it to one button press and 2 frames as i can move to frame 2 by saving as i don't have a chatter chatot. am i right in saying you have to get the encounter slot right where the pokemon sit in the black table (as i am using black)

No, saving will not advance you to frame 2. You're confusing the IV frame and PID frame, as Ewokese said. There are only two ways to advance the IV frame - walking 128 steps or withdrawing a Pokémon from the PC, neither of which is a very good idea if you care about the PID frame (which you do if you're using encounter slots).

And get a Chatot or two, you'll be glad you did.

[Ewokese]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

i have just tried putting it to one button press and 2 frames as i can move to frame 2 by saving as i don't have a chatter chatot. am i right in saying you have to get the encounter slot right where the pokemon sit in the black table (as i am using black)

You're confusing the RNGs again. Saving advances the PIDRNG, not the IVRNG, so when you're searching you still want to search min/max as 1/1.

You'll want to search with at least two keypresses in your search if you want a decent chance of getting a better seed at a more reasonable date.

Yes, the encounter slot has to be the same as the pokemon you're after in the encounter list.

[richm88]

Originally Posted by Fat Ewokese

You're confusing the RNGs again. Saving advances the PIDRNG, not the IVRNG, so when you're searching you still want to search min/max as 1/1.

You'll want to search with at least two keypresses in your search if you want a decent chance of getting a better seed at a more reasonable date.

Yes, the encounter slot has to be the same as the pokemon you're after in the encounter list.

right so say i set my iv frame to one then i will not have to use chatot?
secondly if i want a pokemon to be as flawless as possible i will need to add as many keypresses as possible to give me more of a chance of getting the iv's i want with the same encounter slot, i am guseeing if the encounter slots do not match up then you have no chance of what you want to appear?

[Exploits]

Chatot's don't affect your IV frame. You use them to advance the PID, just like saving but it's more efficient.

[richm88]

well im at PIDRNG section where i got suck last time, for me to get a metang which is what i am rng'ing metang are encounter slots 7,9 and 11 but i have can't get any ot generate
*edit* from what i have searched , for me to get a metang i have to change the frame to 24 at a minimum, seems abit lenghty as i thought it would be alot less frame change than this, all i want to know is if it is on frame one and the encounter slot is correct then i wont have to use a chatit

[Ewokese]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

well im at PIDRNG section where i got suck last time, for me to get a metang which is what i am rng'ing metang are encounter slots 7,9 and 11 but i have can't get any ot generate

Let me give you a check list of things to do:

#1 Check that you can hit the seed you're after. Do this by attempting to hit the seed and capturing a pokemon via sweet scent. If the IVs are the right ones, you can hit your seed.

#2 Check what PIDRNG frame would give you a metang. Do this by looking through the PIDRNG frame list for your seed and finding frames that have those encounter slots.

#3 Check how many advances are required to get the correct PID frame. Do this by using the "Calculate initial PIDRNG frame" button and working out the difference between your desired frame and the initial frame.

#4 Check if there are any wandering NPCs in the area you are RNGing in. Wandering NPCs advance the PIDRNG, and so can affect the consistency of your results. If there are, try to work as quickly as possible so as to minimize their impact on your RNGing attempt.

#5 Check if there is weather in effect. Weather advances the PIDRNG frame by a huge amount. To get rid of it, save in the area, change the date by one month either way, go back into the game, enter a battle and then re save. The weather should now be gone.

#6 Review the other check points to make sure you did them all correctly.

#7 RNG that metang until its nose falls off.

~ Edit ~

You really need to learn the difference between the two RNGs.

You should generally set your min/max frames to 1/1 during searches, making it easier to get the correct IVs.

After you have a seed with the correct IVs, you put it into the main RNG Reporter window and select Gen 5 PIDRNG, then click the Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame. This button will tell you what the very first PID frame of the seed will be. You then have to look through those frames to see if there's one that you like the look of. If there is, then you should aim for that frame. To advance the PIDRNG you need to either use Chatots or saves.

[richm88]

Originally Posted by Fat Ewokese

Let me give you a check list of things to do:

#1 Check that you can hit the seed you're after. Do this by attempting to hit the seed and capturing a pokemon via sweet scent. If the IVs are the right ones, you can hit your seed.

#2 Check what PIDRNG frame would give you a metang. Do this by looking through the PIDRNG frame list for your seed and finding frames that have those encounter slots.

#3 Check how many advances are required to get the correct PID frame. Do this by using the "Calculate initial PIDRNG frame" button and working out the difference between your desired frame and the initial frame.

#4 Check if there are any wandering NPCs in the area you are RNGing in. Wandering NPCs advance the PIDRNG, and so can affect the consistency of your results. If there are, try to work as quickly as possible so as to minimize their impact on your RNGing attempt.

#5 Check if there is weather in effect. Weather advances the PIDRNG frame by a huge amount. To get rid of it, save in the area, change the date by one month either way, go back into the game, enter a battle and then re save. The weather should now be gone.

#6 Review the other check points to make sure you did them all correctly.

#7 RNG that metang until its nose falls off.

number 5 i have done, its giant chasm plains so ther is no NPCs,number 1 to 4 you have lost me, i am useless i know lol,someone needs to make a clearer video, and you are the man that can
for number one when i go for my target seed i get a different pokemon, i actually got a metang last time but it didn't have the IV's , they were well out

[richm88]

in the time finder window i have added the encounter slots that contain metang and it has found 1 that is flawless bar sp atk stat which is 29iv's, it is at frame one to so surely this is one i can go stright in and sweet scent for?
there is now actually 7 possibilities that are in the 3 encounter slots and are on frame1 so could i hit any of these straightaway?
also if this helps you understand me, my original seed i worked off was a level 53 metang, level 53 metang is only in location slot 7 so should i only aim for 7's because it has to be the same level as the original seed?

[Ewokese]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

in the time finder window i have added the encounter slots that contain metang and it has found 1 that is flawless bar sp atk stat which is 29iv's, it is at frame one to so surely this is one i can go stright in and sweet scent for?

I swear you're not even listening to us at all, otherwise you'd have learnt that there are TWO types of frames you need to worry about...

Send me a message or something with your seed in it and I'll see what I can do to help... I think this has gone on long enough in the forum >.>

[richm88]

ok sorry :(, im not that clever with computers and software i just really want to get this right to help myself, im sorry if i am bugging you all.

[Ewokese]

That's alright, just message me the seed you want to use and I'll try and help you.

[alphaXprime]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

No, there isn't, and I'm not sure why. For now you'll just have to do it by hand, sorry.

I've successfully RNG'd Hidden Hollows. Is there any particular thing you're getting stuck on? What precisely are you doing (with screenshots of RNG Reporter if possible)?

Here's a screenshot of the hollow time finder:

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All hollows are filled except for the Giant Chasm Hollow, and I'm trying to get Ditto to spawn in it using the above time finder.

To find out how many times I need to shift it, do I need to plug the seed into the first window? If so what method do I use to figure out what the ssf is?

[voodoo pimp]

Put it into the main window, make sure to stay inside the hollow while you run around to generate it and the starting frame will be whatever the main window of Reporter says it is (there shouldn't be any other source of PIDRNG advancement) unless you used Memory Link, which apparently screws everything up. Or you could just set the max advances to 0 and not worry about anything besides Timer0.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Or you could just set the max advances to 0 and not worry about anything besides Timer0.

There are multiple seeds for any kind of hollow generation on any day with no held buttons and 0 PID advances. There's pretty much no reason to use PID advances. PPRNG doesn't even consider them nor does it search seeds with held buttons.

[alphaXprime]

Wow you guys are awesome, I hit timer0 first time without doing any advances, got Imposter Ditto to spawn, now going to RNG it, thanks for your help on this, very awesome!

[emboars]

Hey guys can you point out me to a detailed guide on how to get a wondercard pokemon to appear shiny.i know normally they cant be shiny but the "Strongest pikachu" here can be shiny.
http://projectpokemon.org/events/en-V.php

please help...

[Dagionax]

Can someone give me a detailed step by step instruction on how to RNG breed a flawless pokemon?(not shiny). I either cant understand the guides or i cant get them to work no matter how closely i follow the instructions... :(

[religiousjedi]

Originally Posted by Fat Dagionax

Can someone give me a detailed step by step instruction on how to RNG breed a flawless pokemon?(not shiny). I either cant understand the guides or i cant get them to work no matter how closely i follow the instructions... :(

No offense or anything...but isn't that the definition of a guide? To give step-by-step instructions?

[Slashmolder]

Originally Posted by Fat emboars

Hey guys can you point out me to a detailed guide on how to get a wondercard pokemon to appear shiny.i know normally they cant be shiny but the "Strongest pikachu" here can be shiny.
http://projectpokemon.org/events/en-V.php

please help...

The latest RNG Reporter alphas as well as the latest PPRNG supports wondercards which can by shiny. When you search for a wondercard set the shininess to can be shiny.

Originally Posted by Fat Dagionax

Can someone give me a detailed step by step instruction on how to RNG breed a flawless pokemon?(not shiny). I either cant understand the guides or i cant get them to work no matter how closely i follow the instructions... :(

Put parents in the daycare with the same IVs as you want with the child. You don't have to but it's so much easier that way. Search for what you want under eggs. Hit the seed. Based on the starting frame do about target frame - starting frame - 6 total advances with Chatots. Pick up the egg. Hatch it and based off the Nature/Characteristic try to guess what frame you hit. Adjust your advances and try again until you get it.

[richm88]

i am getting stuck again, i caught a durant in terrakions chamber, entered its stats , filled in mac adress and version , time and date and my starting seed was found, my capture time finder found 2 results, i aimed for one of them, went to main window,changed method to 5th gen pidrng, wrote in my seeds hex i calculated my pidrng, starting frame was 45, my target was frame 73 , so i started my game up, did my 28 chatot summary checks , sweet scented,but did not get my seed, it was a durant but with crap iv's not the 31,31,31,30,31,31, i was aiming for. can anyone spot anything i have missed as i managed to do a metang yesterday.
i think it may have something to with me adding buttin presses and changing it from c7c to c7d which has threw me out

[The Agonist]

Originally Posted by Fat richm88

i am getting stuck again, i caught a durant in terrakions chamber, entered its stats , filled in mac adress and version , time and date and my starting seed was found, my capture time finder found 2 results, i aimed for one of them, went to main window,changed method to 5th gen pidrng, wrote in my seeds hex i calculated my pidrng, starting frame was 45, my target was frame 73 , so i started my game up, did my 28 chatot summary checks , sweet scented,but did not get my seed, it was a durant but with crap iv's not the 31,31,31,30,31,31, i was aiming for. can anyone spot anything i have missed as i managed to do a metang yesterday.
i think it may have something to with me adding buttin presses and changing it from c7c to c7d which has threw me out

either you missed your seed, or timer0 troll. Button presses have absolutely no effect on your Timer0.