5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat ahuei123456

So just to make sure, the first column is the PIDRNG frame? Is the starting frame static, like the Mersenne Twister RNG or does it have to be calibrated too? Also, does the pitch of the Chatot cry have to be the same as the one that is shown?

Sorry for all the questions, this is my first attempt at manipulating a pRNG.

Yes, the first column is the PID Frame value. The starting PID frame is different for every seed, but it will stay the same for that seed (unless there are NPCs in the area; then you will have to calibrate for a Shifted Starting Frame, or SSF). The starting IV frame will always be 1. The Chatot pitch doesn't have to be the same as the one shown, it will be the same as the one shown if you hit the correct seed. Some people use Chatot pitch to confirm if they hit their seed or not, but I don't because my ear isn't really good at picking out Chatot pitches. If the pitches you're hearing don't match Reporter, then you hit a different seed, which could be because you missed your timer0 or keypresses, or your target time, or you didn't set the correct date.

Originally Posted by Fat klock

I'm still learning non-C gear seeds RNG for White and I have a few inconsistencies.
I always get (whether or not I'm holding down buttons for keypresses) either C7E or C7F for my Timer0. Is there a way to make it consistently spit out just one Timer0 instead of randomly giving me one of the two?

Even if I don't have any buttons held, I get C7E or C7F. When I do have buttons held, I still get C7E or C7F

That's normal that you're getting 2 different timer0s, everybody does. It's just that most people hit one of their timer0s more often than the other, and some people hit both half and half. From my knowledge, there isn't a way to force it to spit out just one. But don't think of this as a complete disadvantage; since you can hit 2 timer0s, you can have more seed possibilities, so you'll find more results in the time finder.

Edit: I always get ninja'd by voodoo .-.

[Darki]

Where is the configuration saved? (I mean the file that contains RNG reporter's configuration, I need to delete this file in order to reset the configuration)

[voodoo pimp]

It's stored in the registry, I think. What exactly are you trying to do?

[Darki]

Well, my friend actually has problems with the reporter. When he searches for a seed and time, he gets results, but when he properly inserts the seed and also the other values as method etc. he doesn't get the right iv spreads in the main window. Thus I thought "okay, as my reporter works properly, I just copy his parameters, do the searching, screencapture the PIDRNG results and send them to him. Said, done. But after reinserting my parameters, the main window still gave me the IV spreads that belonged to his parameters. For me, deleting the .config file helped out (I got an error once, reopened the reporter and everything was fine again), but he doesn't seem to have that .config file. It seems that the reporter doesn't accept more than one change in the DS parameters (rebooting the PC etc. didn't help him) and simply ignores the further changes. I don't know if this is a bug, but I think so. That's why I wanted to know where the configuration is saved, in order to "reset" it and make his reporter work properly.
I am currently on #smogonwifi, nicknamed "Exabytez", if you got tips or questions.^^

[voodoo pimp]

Did your friend search method IVs or PIDRNG in Time Finder? PIDRNG doesn't search for IVs (if you want both IVs and PID, then search for IVs and check the nearby shiny box), so I'm guessing that's the problem.

[klock]

Oh I thought you were only supposed to hit one Timer0, and hit the other one when you have keys pressed. So then, is there a way to sort of control which Timer0 you can get? Maybe hit A within the first half of the second to hit Timer0 x, and hit A within the second half of the second to hit Timer0 y? Or is it completely random which Timer0 you land on?

EDIT: So in either case, I guess it would help if I repeat the calibration process a lot to see which one I'm landing on frequently?

[Darki]

As far as I know, the timer0 belongs to the cartridge you use. The German version of Pokemon Black always (or very often) uses C78 for example.

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat klock

Oh I thought you were only supposed to hit one Timer0, and hit the other one when you have keys pressed. So then, is there a way to sort of control which Timer0 you can get? Maybe hit A within the first half of the second to hit Timer0 x, and hit A within the second half of the second to hit Timer0 y? Or is it completely random which Timer0 you land on?

EDIT: So in either case, I guess it would help if I repeat the calibration process a lot to see which one I'm landing on frequently?

No, keypresses don't have anything to do with it. Just do the calibration process a few more times, try to be consistent with how you press A, and use whichever one comes up more often.

[Gonzo]

Were there any other GLAN Wondercards except JP Movie Hydreigon?

[AUKTrainer]

Is there anyone who can help me with RNGing Wonder Card Pokemon. I'm very new RNGing using the RNG Reporter I need some step by step help please.

[M. Rock]

Heh back once again:

- Using RNG Reporter 9.95 Beta
- Trying to RNG a Timid Virizion with HP Ice (31/31/31/31/31/30)
- Seed is 36DC0591C46F1F40, Frame 4, MAC Address 001AE90FD793
- Date is 04/19/11, Time is 10:58:28

Long story of trial and error:

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Okay so this seems simple enough, and I feel ashamed that I can't do it, but I think my game's acting up. I can hatch eggs in a matter of minutes, and I managed to get my roamer okay. For some reason, stationary legend abuse is becoming harder than those. When I first did Terrakion and Kyurem a year ago, it was nothing. The last RNG I did was Landorus on a Frame 1 result, and it took an abnormally large amount of tries to get the right one. I had to change to a different seed at one point.
Now enter Virizion. I followed the seed above. I get two types of results: a Careful one with the right IVs, or a Timid one with poor IVs (meaning I didn't hit my seed). When I don't hit my seed, I realize that means that the Timer0 is acting up. I'm constantly missing my seed. The few times I do hit it, the result is always the same: Careful (regardless of whether I'm using a synchronizer or not). This type of situation kept happening with Landorus, but I changed seeds and got lucky and got what I wanted for Landy. Now I'm thinking I should try that again.
So I switched to seed 4BB23A66AC4452DF (Frame 12, 09/21/11, 06:14:15). Start up the game, do 11 chatot calls, and go for the catch. I get two different types of results, but the IVs are always wrong, so what the fuck?

I don't get why trying to get stationary legends has all of a sudden become such a brutal task. I feel like RNG Reporter is giving me the wrong information. I fucking give up, I'm tired, I probably won't ever use that Virizion. Can some figure out how to fix this?

EDIT: I always set min/max Timer0 to C7E. Sometimes I think it fluctuates up to C7F, but every time I RNG, I use results on C7E, and I always get what I want. Except for this time.
EDIT2: When I start my search, I always do 'IVs (Standard Seed)'. Should I be using PIDRNG as the method instead?

[IceArceus12]

What method would you select in the time finder if you are RNG'ing for a gift Pokémon?

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat M. Rock

Heh back once again:

- Using RNG Reporter 9.95 Beta
- Trying to RNG a Timid Virizion with HP Ice (31/31/31/31/31/30)
- Seed is 36DC0591C46F1F40, Frame 4, MAC Address 001AE90FD793
- Date is 04/19/11, Time is 10:58:28

Long story of trial and error:

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Okay so this seems simple enough, and I feel ashamed that I can't do it, but I think my game's acting up. I can hatch eggs in a matter of minutes, and I managed to get my roamer okay. For some reason, stationary legend abuse is becoming harder than those. When I first did Terrakion and Kyurem a year ago, it was nothing. The last RNG I did was Landorus on a Frame 1 result, and it took an abnormally large amount of tries to get the right one. I had to change to a different seed at one point.
Now enter Virizion. I followed the seed above. I get two types of results: a Careful one with the right IVs, or a Timid one with poor IVs (meaning I didn't hit my seed). When I don't hit my seed, I realize that means that the Timer0 is acting up. I'm constantly missing my seed. The few times I do hit it, the result is always the same: Careful (regardless of whether I'm using a synchronizer or not). This type of situation kept happening with Landorus, but I changed seeds and got lucky and got what I wanted for Landy. Now I'm thinking I should try that again.
So I switched to seed 4BB23A66AC4452DF (Frame 12, 09/21/11, 06:14:15). Start up the game, do 11 chatot calls, and go for the catch. I get two different types of results, but the IVs are always wrong, so what the fuck?

I don't get why trying to get stationary legends has all of a sudden become such a brutal task. I feel like RNG Reporter is giving me the wrong information. I fucking give up, I'm tired, I probably won't ever use that Virizion. Can some figure out how to fix this?

EDIT: I always set min/max Timer0 to C7E. Sometimes I think it fluctuates up to C7F, but every time I RNG, I use results on C7E, and I always get what I want. Except for this time.
EDIT2: When I start my search, I always do 'IVs (Standard Seed)'. Should I be using PIDRNG as the method instead?

Sounds like you aren't advancing the PID frame. Your starting frame is Careful non-sync, but the next frame is synchable, so try one save or Chatot and it should work.

On a side note unrelated to your RNG, I'd suggest searching for 31/HP_E/30/31/31/31 instead, so that you don't lose the speed tie to other base 108s.

Originally Posted by Fat IceArceus12

What method would you select in the time finder if you are RNG'ing for a gift Pokémon?

Method: IVs (Standard Seed), Encounter Type: Gift.

[IceArceus12]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Method: IVs (Standard Seed), Encounter Type: Gift.

So is there no way of controlling the PIDRNG for gift pokémon?

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat IceArceus12

So is there no way of controlling the PIDRNG for gift pokémon?

Same way you control the PID for stationary/wild capture. Check the shiny box if you want it to be shiny; if you don't or it can't be, then just put your seed into the main window and look for the first PID frame that has all the stuff you want.

[sirmo10]

I'm sure you get posts like this all the time "I'm new to rng/prng and I'm having trouble". Well I've lurked and researched and I can't seem to figure out where I'm going wrong.

I made a quick image
http://i.imgur.com/HF24g.png
of my setup.(ignore the eontimer app.)

I can get the natures and the IVs correct every time but not the shiny factor. Never works with Cobalion. What am I doing wrong?

I don't have my secret ID or anything :/
not sure if It'd be worth restarting to get it if that's the only way I can get shiny pokemon.

[voodoo pimp]

If you don't have your SID, it's not possible to get shiny Pokémon (aside from the usual random chance). The way you have it set up now, it will search for shinies as though your ID and SID were both 0. There are basically two ways to find your SID in Gen 5: use an AR code, or upload a Pokémon to Pokécheck (or if you can't do either of those, trade one of your Pokémon to someone who can).

[sirmo10]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

If you don't have your SID, it's not possible to get shiny Pokémon (aside from the usual random chance). The way you have it set up now, it will search for shinies as though your ID and SID were both 0. There are basically two ways to find your SID in Gen 5: use an AR code, or upload a Pokémon to Pokécheck (or if you can't do either of those, trade one of your Pokémon to someone who can).

Ok did the poke check and I caught a shiny durant! woot! Thanks for the quick response.

[Darki]

Yesterday I bred a shiny scyther, but the IV spread doesn't fit (only Defense IV is wrong). I know how to use the reporter and I did everything right, everything fits (nature, ability, gender) except for the Defense IV. There are no other shiny frames in range.
If I am back home, I will first look for the PIDFrame list of the seeds at +-3 secs (even if I am quite sure I hit my seed, as the frame, Chatot pitches etc. perfectly fitted) and then look up the PID and compare it to the one provided by the reporter, if it is the same, I don't get why the time finder gives me a wrong IV spread (I properly inserted the right IVs of the parents, it looks like the Def IV was passed by the father, scizor, but it could be fluke). I am using 9.96 Alpha.

Oh and by the way: Is there any chance of Zekrom/Reshiram being shiny in Black 2 / White 2? Or is there still the shiny lock function that skips shiny PIDFrames?

Greetings,

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Darki

Yesterday I bred a shiny scyther, but the IV spread doesn't fit (only Defense IV is wrong). I know how to use the reporter and I did everything right, everything fits (nature, ability, gender) except for the Defense IV. There are no other shiny frames in range.
If I am back home, I will first look for the PIDFrame list of the seeds at +-3 secs (even if I am quite sure I hit my seed, as the frame, Chatot pitches etc. perfectly fitted) and then look up the PID and compare it to the one provided by the reporter, if it is the same, I don't get why the time finder gives me a wrong IV spread (I properly inserted the right IVs of the parents, it looks like the Def IV was passed by the father, scizor, but it could be fluke). I am using 9.96 Alpha.

Oh and by the way: Is there any chance of Zekrom/Reshiram being shiny in Black 2 / White 2? Or is there still the shiny lock function that skips shiny PIDFrames?

Greetings,

In the time finder, did you make sure that you checked Ditto Parent or International Parent if you're using one?

No, Zekrom and Reshiram still have the shiny lock.

[masterbreeder]

I have a question for when RNG Reporter supports B2/W2 breeding. When you breed a male or genderless pokemon with a Ditto, is the inherited ability (Ability 0/Ability 1) likelihood determined by the male/genderless parent or by the Ditto? I'm going to have to look for an extra perfect IV Ditto if the latter is true.

[emboars]

Originally Posted by Fat masterbreeder

I have a question for when RNG Reporter supports B2/W2 breeding. When you breed a male or genderless pokemon with a Ditto, is the inherited ability (Ability 0/Ability 1) likelihood determined by the male/genderless parent or by the Ditto? I'm going to have to look for an extra perfect IV Ditto if the latter is true.

rng breeding in BW2 is screwed up...i dont think it will support in the future unless the US version comes with a different coding which is not likely...
so best choice is stick to BW breeding...:(

[Darki]

Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

In the time finder, did you make sure that you checked Ditto Parent or International Parent if you're using one?

No, Zekrom and Reshiram still have the shiny lock.

I checked both "Ditto Parent" and "International Parent", as I use a Japanese Ditto and a German Scizor. The IVs of those two are flawless for Ditto and 28/31/19/25/19/31 (Speed last stat). I added screenshots of the time finder results and the main window of the Reporter.

Time Finder Results:

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Main Window:

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Excerpt of the Statlog of IR-GTS:

Sichlor: Shiny!
Lv 1 Adamant Scyther with Technician (Female)

OT: Exabytz, ID: 06181, Secret ID: 38562
Holding: Nothing, Happiness: 120
Hidden Power: Ice-type, 70 Base Power

Attacks: Vacuum Wave Quick Attack
Leer None

IVs: HP 31, Atk 31, Def 19, SpA 30, SpD 31, Spe 31
EVs: HP 0, Atk 0, Def 0, SpA 0, SpD 0, Spe 0, Total 0

Oh and the PID perfectly fits (checked with PokeGen).
Edit: I rebred the Scyther with a new seed and got the same freaking problem again. It should be flawless, but it has 28-29 HP and the rest perfectly fits.. -.-
Using 9.96 Alpha 6..

[coolbiz]

Is there a way I can RNG pokerus? I want to have 100% legit pokerus for when I try to EV train.

[Princess of Johto]

Originally Posted by Fat Darki

I checked both "Ditto Parent" and "International Parent", as I use a Japanese Ditto and a German Scizor. The IVs of those two are flawless for Ditto and 28/31/19/25/19/31 (Speed last stat). I added screenshots of the time finder results and the main window of the Reporter.

Time Finder Results:

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Main Window:

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Excerpt of the Statlog of IR-GTS:

Sichlor: Shiny!
Lv 1 Adamant Scyther with Technician (Female)

OT: Exabytz, ID: 06181, Secret ID: 38562
Holding: Nothing, Happiness: 120
Hidden Power: Ice-type, 70 Base Power

Attacks: Vacuum Wave Quick Attack
Leer None

IVs: HP 31, Atk 31, Def 19, SpA 30, SpD 31, Spe 31
EVs: HP 0, Atk 0, Def 0, SpA 0, SpD 0, Spe 0, Total 0

Oh and the PID perfectly fits (checked with PokeGen).
Edit: I rebred the Scyther with a new seed and got the same freaking problem again. It should be flawless, but it has 28-29 HP and the rest perfectly fits.. -.-
Using 9.96 Alpha 6..

Hmm, that's strange. Try updating to 9.96 Alpha 17 and see if you get the same problem. I'm really not sure what could be wrong.