5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Dizzybanana21x]

Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

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Check the PID you hit so you can see the frame you actually hit.

How do I calculate the PID?

EDIT: I checked the PID on pokecheck and it is 0x1DE38C11
So I did hit the right frame and got the correct PID
Are there any other factors other than PID and ID/SID for determining shiniess???
I probably made a typo somewhere in my RNG Reporter, but I can't figure out where!
I've done so many shiny breeds b4 and never had this problem

Also yes, both my parents are English. I made sure on poke check

[Hozu]

Only thing that you could have made a typo with is TID/SID on the Time Finder (or your profile in general). Or rather, the TID/SID on the game doesn't match what is entered.

[Dizzybanana21x]

Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

Only thing that you could have made a typo with is TID/SID on the Time Finder (or your profile in general). Or rather, the TID/SID on the game doesn't match what is entered.

Just doubled checked all my entries with pokecheck and it seems correct....
I even made sure my mac address was right

Are there any other restrictions on shinies. I am using 2 traded parents from poke check

EDIT: My eyes don't work. I had the wrong SID..... sigh.....

[DarkestSamus]

Hello everyone!

I've been looking around about Dream Radar RNG, and hearing that it is possible and is likely to be added to RNG Reporter after BW2's English release. However, I have heard one thing hinted at but never perfectly explained, so I need to ask one question:

Do you only have ONE chance per Pokemon to RNG, or can you reset if you make a mistake?

I ask this because from the sound of it, the seed is used when you agree to import the Pokemon, which I assume is not something you can "reset".

Please let me know! Thanks!

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat DarkestSamus

Do you only have ONE chance per Pokemon to RNG, or can you reset if you make a mistake?

The beginnings of a guide to DR RNG are in this post. It explains the limitations.

One thing to note is that it's very easy to verify that you hit the correct seed with DR RNG, so the only way to mess up is to get your initial search configuration wrong or to advance the wrong number of frames (assuming that you've set things up on the DR side correctly).

[DarkestSamus]

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

The beginnings of a guide to DR RNG are in this post. It explains the limitations.

One thing to note is that it's very easy to verify that you hit the correct seed with DR RNG, so the only way to mess up is to get your initial search configuration wrong or to advance the wrong number of frames (assuming that you've set things up on the DR side correctly).

Ah, so an easy method of verification is available before committing to the action? Good to know. That post had all I needed - thank you!

[ArcDeus]

Hello everyone.

Can someone please tell me how to RNG a dust spot Pokemon like excadrill ? I found a SEED for a wild cave spot encounter and tried to save in front of such a spot but discovered the spot was gone once I returned in the game.

[The Agonist]

Originally Posted by Fat ArcDeus

Hello everyone.

Can someone please tell me how to RNG a dust spot Pokemon like excadrill ? I found a SEED for a wild cave spot encounter and tried to save in front of such a spot but discovered the spot was gone once I returned in the game.

You have to actually walk around until you find a Dust Spot - then encounter it. Therefore it's better if you use a higher IV Frame (3-5 work, and sometimes you can get away with using frame 2). You also have to keep track of your PIDRNG (each step you take advances it by two, and each time you turn, but don't take a step also increases it by two) - so you'll want a higher PID frame too. I personally look between 500 - 700. Good luck!

[ArcDeus]

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

You have to actually walk around until you find a Dust Spot - then encounter it. Therefore it's better if you use a higher IV Frame (3-5 work, and sometimes you can get away with using frame 2). You also have to keep track of your PIDRNG (each step you take advances it by two, and each time you turn, but don't take a step also increases it by two) - so you'll want a higher PID frame too. I personally look between 500 - 700. Good luck!

Thank you very much sir :)

[javyj79]

Why is the inheritance saying its coming from the male for some of the seeds when i have no IV's listed under the male. It should be taking 3 from the female, then generating the rest. I have a Ditto as the female. Marowak is the male. I've tried hitting all those seeds and its always off. When i did this with my Dusclops, everything went through fine.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat javyj79

Why is the inheritance saying its coming from the male for some of the seeds when i have no IV's listed under the male. It should be taking 3 from the female, then generating the rest. I have a Ditto as the female. Marowak is the male. I've tried hitting all those seeds and its always off. When i did this with my Dusclops, everything went through fine.

Presumably it's defaulting the male's blank IVs to 0. PPRNG used to have the same issue. Try setting the speed IV of the male to any number except 0 to prevent it from happening.

[javyj79]

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

Presumably it's defaulting the male's blank IVs to 0. PPRNG used to have the same issue. Try setting the speed IV of the male to any number except 0 to prevent it from happening.

10-4 i'll give that a try thanks.

[OmegaForte]

Okay so I'm trying to get back to RNG abusing, but problem is that some exclusive Pokemon exist only on White version. The problem is that I'm using an Acekard 2i for White. What's worse is I have lost all the info I had to RNG abusing successfully on my flash cart.

I need help on finding the parameters, any of them fluctuating, etc. I know it is possible because I have done this in the past. I'm using a DSi, although is there any difference as I know acekard runs on DS/lite mode? (Or should I put it as "DSi/XL" in RNG reporter?)

[zankioh]

Hey guys.
I'm looking for some advice.

I've been reading about RNGing and been doing it for a while, so far so good. I managed both doing it for wild encounters and hatching eggs.
Now I'm trying to hit a seed that requires a keypress, namely R

After a couple of tries I noticed that the results I got weren't on my seed at all, so I read into it and noticed a few places mentioning that the timer0 might go up by 1 if you have a keypress.
So far, my timer0 has pretty much always been C7A.

I've went back to the ds parameter search calibration phase (catching wild pokes and checking IVs/etc) while selecting keypress R. Now I have no problem getting the same result over and over, but each time I do I receive two results

Actual seconds VCount Timer0 GxStat VFrame
17 60 C73 6 C
17 60 C7A 6 8

The lower result are the parameters I usually work with and always had success with (no keypresses). The top result is new.

Now what confuses me is that I thought having a keypress would increase your timer0 by 1, but shouldn't it be C7B then? Why C73?

And if C73 isn't the one I'm actually hitting, then I don't understand why I can't hit the actual seed I'm going for (asking for keypress R) with C7A at all.

I hope someone understands my issue.

[TheChortler]

Greetings gents!
I've been attempting the obtain a perfect Wondercard pokemon (Keldeo, to be specific), but haven't had any luck, and am in need of some assistance. This is what I have been doing: I first found my parameters by using the date 1/16/12 at 5:00. I did this by starting the game the second the DS clock hit that time. I did this multiple times until I found my two timer0 values and determined which one appeared more often. After that, I set my IVs and nature, then commenced using the timefinder. After finding a few seeds, I uploaded them to the reporter and found my initial frame. I started the game at the exact moment that the DS clock displayed the time that I needed to hit. After the game started, I advanced the frame by subracting my initial frame from the target frame, then switched between two Chatot that I set a voice to with chatter that number of times, and I have so far not hit the nature or IVs that I've been attempting to hit. Might anyone be able to detect a flaw in my process?

[Axzarious]

I am currently wondering if the current version of RNG reporter is bugged or broken some how - if at least in a few aspects. Fairly new, but I have managed quite well so far and wish to throw a little issue/question out there.

First of all with my experiences so far - I have been able to flawlessly generate stationary pokemon and wild pokemon (Well, IV's at least. Haven't gotten around to specific species - natures less so considering that I have a synchronizer for nearly any useful nature)

Now comes the next problem - What do the starter pokemon count as? I can't test them as effectively - mainly because you cant view natures or such in Black and White while in battle (which is dissapointing) - and because I am not going to delete my black file to test it out.

I am also unable to find out where I am landing for Trainer IDs in Pandora's boxes "Seed Finder" - it doesn't seem to work AT ALL. I crunch in the time I entered along with my ID and it returns nothing at all - even when I have absurd random variables like min seconds 0 max seconds 59 and min/max frames of 0-100 set.

-Somewhat unrelated question---
I have noticed that my timer0 when not using Aeon timer is constistantly C7C, yet when I use Aeon Timer its C7B most of the time - and way more unreliable. Is this normal?

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat TheChortler

Greetings gents!
I've been attempting the obtain a perfect Wondercard pokemon (Keldeo, to be specific), but haven't had any luck, and am in need of some assistance. This is what I have been doing: I first found my parameters by using the date 1/16/12 at 5:00. I did this by starting the game the second the DS clock hit that time. I did this multiple times until I found my two timer0 values and determined which one appeared more often. After that, I set my IVs and nature, then commenced using the timefinder. After finding a few seeds, I uploaded them to the reporter and found my initial frame. I started the game at the exact moment that the DS clock displayed the time that I needed to hit. After the game started, I advanced the frame by subracting my initial frame from the target frame, then switched between two Chatot that I set a voice to with chatter that number of times, and I have so far not hit the nature or IVs that I've been attempting to hit. Might anyone be able to detect a flaw in my process?

Where are you trying to get the Wonder Card? Most Pokémon Centers have moving NPCs in them that throw off your frame. Do it at the Pokémon League if you can, I know that one is safe.

If it still doesn't work, look at the IVs you got and compare them to the frames in the main window of RNG Reporter. If it matches a nearby frame, then you just need to adjust your Chatters accordingly. If it doesn't, you probably hit the wrong Timer0.

Originally Posted by Fat zankioh

Hey guys.
I'm looking for some advice.

I've been reading about RNGing and been doing it for a while, so far so good. I managed both doing it for wild encounters and hatching eggs.
Now I'm trying to hit a seed that requires a keypress, namely R

After a couple of tries I noticed that the results I got weren't on my seed at all, so I read into it and noticed a few places mentioning that the timer0 might go up by 1 if you have a keypress.
So far, my timer0 has pretty much always been C7A.

I've went back to the ds parameter search calibration phase (catching wild pokes and checking IVs/etc) while selecting keypress R. Now I have no problem getting the same result over and over, but each time I do I receive two results

Actual seconds VCount Timer0 GxStat VFrame
17 60 C73 6 C
17 60 C7A 6 8

The lower result are the parameters I usually work with and always had success with (no keypresses). The top result is new.

Now what confuses me is that I thought having a keypress would increase your timer0 by 1, but shouldn't it be C7B then? Why C73?

And if C73 isn't the one I'm actually hitting, then I don't understand why I can't hit the actual seed I'm going for (asking for keypress R) with C7A at all.

I hope someone understands my issue.

Keypresses have nothing to do with Timer0, it's part luck and part the exact timing of when you start the game. Do it a few more times, and try adjusting slightly the timing of what part of the second you press A on.

As for the C73 result, that's probably a fluke, considering the VFrame value is also way off.

Originally Posted by Fat Axzarious

I am currently wondering if the current version of RNG reporter is bugged or broken some how - if at least in a few aspects. Fairly new, but I have managed quite well so far and wish to throw a little issue/question out there.

First of all with my experiences so far - I have been able to flawlessly generate stationary pokemon and wild pokemon (Well, IV's at least. Haven't gotten around to specific species - natures less so considering that I have a synchronizer for nearly any useful nature)

Now comes the next problem - What do the starter pokemon count as? I can't test them as effectively - mainly because you cant view natures or such in Black and White while in battle (which is dissapointing) - and because I am not going to delete my black file to test it out.

I am also unable to find out where I am landing for Trainer IDs in Pandora's boxes "Seed Finder" - it doesn't seem to work AT ALL. I crunch in the time I entered along with my ID and it returns nothing at all - even when I have absurd random variables like min seconds 0 max seconds 59 and min/max frames of 0-100 set.

-Somewhat unrelated question---
I have noticed that my timer0 when not using Aeon timer is constistantly C7C, yet when I use Aeon Timer its C7B most of the time - and way more unreliable. Is this normal?

Starters are Gift Pokémon.

What version of RNG Reporter are you using? I remember Pandora's Box being bugged in some of them.

As I said above, Timer0 is somewhat dependent on the timing you use to start the game, so yes, that is normal.

[Axzarious]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Starters are Gift Pokémon.

What version of RNG Reporter are you using? I remember Pandora's Box being bugged in some of them.

As I said above, Timer0 is somewhat dependent on the timing you use to start the game, so yes, that is normal.

I am currently using the most recent version 9.95. Is there a link to a version that has it working? I am wanting to see if I can RNG an id and/or a shiny starter for my white version along with a specific nature and IV spread.

[voodoo pimp]

Latest version is 9.96 alpha 18 (requires .NET framework 4.5). For future reference, you can always find a link to the latest build on #smogonwifi.

[TheChortler]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Where are you trying to get the Wonder Card? Most Pokémon Centers have moving NPCs in them that throw off your frame. Do it at the Pokémon League if you can, I know that one is safe.

If it still doesn't work, look at the IVs you got and compare them to the frames in the main window of RNG Reporter. If it matches a nearby frame, then you just need to adjust your Chatters accordingly. If it doesn't, you probably hit the wrong Timer0.

I was originally using the Opelucid pokemon center due to the low number of NPCs within, which don't really move, so I ended up getting the same results at the league.

I tried to find a nearby frame, and to my surprise, none of the frames that contained the IVs of the Keldeo I've been getting contain the date or the keypress I've been using. If the timer0 is the issue, I haven't a clue where I'm going wrong; I've check my parameters several times and have determined each of the timer0s that accompany them, yet none of them yield the results that I've been getting, e.g., the keypress I've been using is B, yet the only ones that come up are Start, and the date I've been using is 1/5/12, yet the only dates that come up that are even relatively close to that are 1/1/12 and 1/8/12.

[TheAllyKat]

I would like to ask something? Is it possible with an Action Replay to set the values and seeds and timers to specifics values? (I do apologize in advance for asking this because I have never looked at Ranging before.)

On a similar note, does the WiFi random battles confirm legal/legit Pokemon? I want to be able to double check everything (including some Pokemon that I have traded with other players to ensure they are valid too.)

[Cereza]

Originally Posted by Fat TheAllyKat

I would like to ask something? Is it possible with an Action Replay to set the values and seeds and timers to specifics values? (I do apologize in advance for asking this because I have never looked at Ranging before.)

On a similar note, does the WiFi random battles confirm legal/legit Pokemon? I want to be able to double check everything (including some Pokemon that I have traded with other players to ensure they are valid too.)

Probably not, and if it is that would be considered hacking, which is agaisnt the rules...syou can just use pokecheck.com to confirm the legalicity of pokemon

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat TheChortler

I was originally using the Opelucid pokemon center due to the low number of NPCs within, which don't really move, so I ended up getting the same results at the league.

I tried to find a nearby frame, and to my surprise, none of the frames that contained the IVs of the Keldeo I've been getting contain the date or the keypress I've been using. If the timer0 is the issue, I haven't a clue where I'm going wrong; I've check my parameters several times and have determined each of the timer0s that accompany them, yet none of them yield the results that I've been getting, e.g., the keypress I've been using is B, yet the only ones that come up are Start, and the date I've been using is 1/5/12, yet the only dates that come up that are even relatively close to that are 1/1/12 and 1/8/12.

How exactly are you getting those numbers? Are you sure you're using the correct method?

Can you post a screenshot?

[PokeTroopa]

Im trying to learn how to RNG shiny stationary legendaries. In the RNG reporter got a frame of 78 and a shiny frame of 85. Do I advance these frame two different ways (use both chatots and steps) or is this information telling me I can get a shiny on frame 85 while forgoing the perfect IV spread thats on frame 78?

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat PokeTroopa

Im trying to learn how to RNG shiny stationary legendaries. In the RNG reporter got a frame of 78 and a shiny frame of 85. Do I advance these frame two different ways (use both chatots and steps) or is this information telling me I can get a shiny on frame 85 while forgoing the perfect IV spread thats on frame 78?

There's two different frames. If I'm understanding you correctly, 78 is the IV frame. You should basically never use an IV frame higher than 1, not only is it a pain in the ass to advance it but you also will probably advance past your shiny PID frame in the process.