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tyons · Oct 21st, 2012, 5:52:37 PM

I found an error in the encounter table. in castelia city (location 1, in the table) it says that jigglypuff appears at level 15 and 16 with encounter slots 2 and 6 respectively, but it's wrong. it should be pidove, not jigglypuff.

Princess of Johto · Oct 21st, 2012, 6:00:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat GSP

I'm trying to RNG a shiny Terrakion with the IVs 31/31/31/8/31/31. However, I can't seem to hit my frame 1. I end up getting a Terrakion with the nature I want (Jolly), but the IV spread of 22-23/6-7/29/6-9/16-17/4-5. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I'm using an English White 2 on a DS Lite.

Other useful info:
Timer0: C91
Seed: 78B64E2F55F971B5
VCount: 50
VFrame: 1
GxStat: 6

If you aren't getting the right IVs, that means you're missing your standard seed. So, you're either missing your timer0, your target time/date, or your keypresses. I would guess that you're missing your timer0 because in BW2 timer0 is always the main problem... but also make sure that you're entering the game one second before your target time.

If timer0 is the problem, just keep trying to hit your seed and you should eventually hit your target timer0. If you keep getting the same IV spread that isn't your target, find out which timer0 you're hitting using the adjacent seed tool, and use that timer0 in the time finder to find a new seed.

Rhonder · Oct 21st, 2012, 6:32:41 PM

Wanting to re-touch on my post and add a visual aid. Specifically this is the error message that i get when I try and close out of the RNG Profiles window:

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...i021/RNGBS.png

Because of that I'm not able to find my seed or anything. The weird part though is that 2 days ago it seemed to work fine, but as of yesterday I started having this message pop up and hinder me

Musica · Oct 21st, 2012, 7:29:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat GSP

I'm trying to RNG a shiny Terrakion with the IVs 31/31/31/8/31/31. However, I can't seem to hit my frame 1. I end up getting a Terrakion with the nature I want (Jolly), but the IV spread of 22-23/6-7/29/6-9/16-17/4-5. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I'm using an English White 2 on a DS Lite.

Other useful info:
Timer0: C91
Seed: 78B64E2F55F971B5
VCount: 50
VFrame: 1
GxStat: 6

Check your parameters.

Your Timer0 is waaaaaaaaaaaay off the range for White 2 Parameters. You are probably using White 1. See figure below and recheck.

As you can see, you have a Timer0 of C91, which is, again, out the range for White 2 Timer0 range of 10E0-1130. To add to what PoJ has said, even if you get the right nature, ability, gender, or even shiny-ness, as long as you do not get the correct IV's, you probably have missed your seed. Other factors why you do not get the IV's correctly is the IV frame, which will never advance unless you walk 128 steps with x number of pokemon in your party. x is equal to the number of IV frame advancements made when you walk 128 steps.

tl;dr

Your Timer0 = C91
W2 Timer0 range = 10E0-1130

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Oct 21st, 2012, 8:54:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Keep in mind that there's only a 5% chance of them filling every 256 steps, so unless you're willing to spend a lot of time walking, RNGing them all is probably the best way.

Wait, so you can actually rng fill all the hollows and then carefully select what appears in what?

Princess of Johto · Oct 21st, 2012, 9:55:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

Wait, so you can actually rng fill all the hollows and then carefully select what appears in what?

Yes, you can do that. But you don't fill them and then choose what appears separately, you do them at the same time.

Sprocket · Oct 21st, 2012, 10:01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

In Dreamyard, is Lati@s considered a Stationary Pokemon, or a Wild Pokemon?

As a follow-up to my own question, Lati@s is considered a Stationary Pokemon, near as I can tell anyway.

Explanation

cbeng · Oct 21st, 2012, 10:29:09 PM

Just wondering, when going for Lati@s, how does the step you take to get it to battle you affect the frames?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 21st, 2012, 10:59:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

Wait, so you can actually rng fill all the hollows and then carefully select what appears in what?

Yes, as long as you do them in the proper order.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat cbeng

Just wondering, when going for Lati@s, how does the step you take to get it to battle you affect the frames?

It doesn't, unless the NPCs move during that time.

Sprocket · Oct 21st, 2012, 11:00:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

It doesn't, unless the NPCs move during that time.

Isn't there a chance of a PID advancement when stepping, even when not on grass?

The Agonist · Oct 21st, 2012, 11:28:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

Isn't there a chance of a PID advancement when stepping, even when not on grass?

not in this particular case. The only PID advancements are from the Youngster in the Doubles Grass.

kandayuu · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:09:16 AM

Hi,I'm currently struck in BW2 rng method. I will list down what did i do and hope anyone can help me identify the steps i've done wrong maybe.
Right now i'm now wanted to do wild pokemon rng.

For calibration
1. I brought along a sweet scenter (Foongus)
2. I found a spot in victory road with no npc and items lying around. Save the game there.
3. I restart my DSlite and set to 10/12/2012 05:30:25 and restart my ds
4. I press A when the second reach 25 sec and let it load (without pressing anything) till the game freak screen up
5. Once the screen is up, i press A all the way till the game load my saved game.
6. I sweet scent immediately and catch a pokemon
7. Copy down the nature, habits, stats and calculate the iv

I Repeated step 3-7 for around 20 times to confirm the results -> Here lies one problem, different pokemon i encounter give me different iv values but the same pokemon give me same iv (E.g. 10XPiloswine i encounter all have naughty nature, hp 111, atk 78 and 12X Delibird have rash nature, hp 106, atk 57for example)

Qn 1: Is the calibration on the right track?
Qn 2: For BW2 after press A at the right second i notice that after the game freak logo appear the time taken to press A also affect the pokemon that you will encounter. E.g. When you see Zekrom shadow count 1 sec then enter game you will encounter delibird if 2 second count you will encounter piloswine. I'm getting so confuse, is it i have to wait for all the animation load finish instead of only stopping at game freak screen?

For actual RNG
1. I just take this 3 result and generate a list of seeder and tried them all
2. For example: i gotten Frame 1 01/13/2012 05:30:19 i enter the game at 01/13/2012 05:30:18 <------ is this correct?
3. I sweet scent and caught a pokemon but that pokemon doesnt match the iv stat i wanted to generate.

Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance if anyone could solved this problem i'm facing =)

Sprocket · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:16:16 AM

The Gift Eevee in Castelia City can never be female. If the PIDRNG lands on a frame that generates a female Eevee, it will skip to the next frame.

@kandayuu, Timer0 is probably fluctuating a lot. It's a known problem in BW2, and something you need to be aware of. Also which DS are you using, a DS Lite, DSi, or 3DS?

kandayuu · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:20:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

The Gift Eevee in Castelia City can never be female. If the PIDRNG lands on a frame that generates a female Eevee, it will skip to the next frame.

@kandayuu, Timer0 is probably fluctuating a lot. It's a known problem in BW2, and something you need to be aware of. Also which DS are you using, a DS Lite, DSi, or 3DS?

I'm using DSLite, So how do i stablize the fluctuation? How to kept the encounter consistent in BW2?

Sprocket · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:30:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat kandayuu

I'm using DSLite, So how do i stablize the fluctuation? How to kept the encounter consistent in BW2?

You don't. Sorry.

kandayuu · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:35:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

You don't. Sorry.

Ok thanks alot! So right now its impossible to rng in BW2 right?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:41:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat kandayuu

Ok thanks alot! So right now its impossible to rng in BW2 right?

No, you just have to try more. Figure out which Timer0 value is most common, and use that one.

Breeding in BW2 is impossible though, for unrelated reasons (there's a bug in the game's breeding code).

musicalbento · Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:49:58 AM

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Valkart · Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:03:35 AM

Hi guys, for ID/SID abuse on BW2, can I do the same RNG process like BW? Thanks in advance

emboars · Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Valkart

Hi guys, for ID/SID abuse on BW2, can I do the same RNG process like BW? Thanks in advance

yes its the same with more timer0s

Cefiro · Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:26:22 AM

Can the gift Eevee still be shiny? And the gift turtle/archeopteryx too?
And are there NPCs that make getting a shiny really difficult in any of these buildings?

emboars · Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:54:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat emboars

omg when finding paras in B2 i got a constant vcount and lot of timer0s...but when i find my paras for W2 in ANOTHER dsi i got 2 vcounts AD and AC and timer0s...what do i chose...or should i find my paras for W2 on the same dsi i rnged B2 on?

please help...confused

guys i did this on the other dsi too but it get 2 vcounts too :( AC and AD .....it never happened in B2 .only in W2

little trouble in choosing :/ which one should i use

Actual Seconds VCount Timer0 GxStat VFrame Seed
21 AD 1675 6 8 61C19B180C9DA859
17 AC 1673 6 8 4B95B468BEBA6FC7
22 AC 1673 6 8 2951B9FBFB8D8CBB
21 AC 166D 6 8 40B1BBFAD1FB754C
22 AC 166F 6 8 5DEFD11AC046E1A1
21 AC 1671 6 8 5F21D95C9DB70B96
22 AD 1675 6 8 9776D7DAA077B316
22 AD 167B 6 8 F354C7800A695278
21 AD 1674 6 8 03EC17BABC97C74C
21 AC 1674 6 8 822CD0A69AAD9008
22 AC 166B 6 8 293FC5832885EE79
22 AC 1671 6 8 33D475637F03370C
22 AD 1678 6 8 204A3AC27975810B
21 AC 166E 6 8 9CE7E76E553094A2
21 AC 166B 6 8 9F61B693ABFA106B
22 AC 1672 6 8 03D2FA8228628603
21 AC 166C 6 8 7AE32B6E0BB6ADB8
22 AD 1677 6 8 514FB465774CFB91
22 AC 166A 6 8 997E44BA62598178
22 AC 166C 6 8 4BFE7DA25FBC2FE3
21 AC 1672 6 8 9B36D37B49238060
22 AC 166D 6 8 1CC18E0058356F72
22 AC 166A 6 8 26B6EA18E0E38144
22 AC 166B 6 8 470A246463057A61
22 AC 1673 6 8 AE578C07D1B79A08
22 AC 1672 6 8 2003A367B03E26DB
22 AC 166B 6 8 68D178C557EA986E
22 AC 166F 6 8 3D1AE65132FFF820
22 AC 166E 6 8 2DDDDF4C09E26E71

The Agonist · Oct 22nd, 2012, 5:53:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Can the gift Eevee still be shiny? And the gift turtle/archeopteryx too?
And are there NPCs that make getting a shiny really difficult in any of these buildings?

All three can be shiny, and there aren't any WNPCs in the Museum at least (BW2 only, in BW there are).

BlueEew · Oct 22nd, 2012, 6:48:30 AM

Is there any guides for BW2 calibration? I cannot seem to RNG at all in Black 2.

Xanderpitz · Oct 22nd, 2012, 6:54:56 AM

Ok, so I'm trying to RNG the Azelf on Route 23 and I'm a little bit confused as to what RNGReporter is telling me that I had hit. I know its a stationary pokemon and that there are NPCs (which usually advances the PIDRNG frame by 4 for me if I have to use Chatot [which i did]). Here's my parameters for the search:

http://i.imgur.com/eGFHx.png
http://i.imgur.com/MyqWY.png

I ended up getting a non-shiny terrible Azelf instead, so I plugged in my time into the Adjacent Seed Tool to compare results. The problem is, it says I hit frame 3 of a nearby Timer0, when I advanced the PIDRNG frame 67 times with Chatot alone. Here's my find:

http://i.imgur.com/3TfDv.png

Any idea what that means?

Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:16:16 AM	#16213
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	The Gift Eevee in Castelia City can never be female. If the PIDRNG lands on a frame that generates a female Eevee, it will skip to the next frame. @kandayuu, Timer0 is probably fluctuating a lot. It's a known problem in BW2, and something you need to be aware of. Also which DS are you using, a DS Lite, DSi, or 3DS? __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

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musicalbento Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 46 USA	(deleted) __________________ my pokécheck Last edited by musicalbento; Oct 22nd, 2012 at 1:41:19 AM. Reason: figured it out!

Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:26:22 AM	#16221
Cefiro Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 140	Can the gift Eevee still be shiny? And the gift turtle/archeopteryx too? And are there NPCs that make getting a shiny really difficult in any of these buildings? __________________ Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 1678 2454 2881 Last edited by Cefiro; Oct 22nd, 2012 at 3:34:37 AM.

Oct 22nd, 2012, 6:48:30 AM	#16224
BlueEew Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 62 Pallet Town, Kanto.	Is there any guides for BW2 calibration? I cannot seem to RNG at all in Black 2. __________________ Pokemon Forum Shiny Legendary Pokemon Hunt Masuda Method Shiny Egg Hunt Charmander Shined! Soft Resets Shiny Pokemon Hunt (None Legendary)

Oct 21st, 2012, 5:52:37 PM	#16201
tyons Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 116	I found an error in the encounter table. in castelia city (location 1, in the table) it says that jigglypuff appears at level 15 and 16 with encounter slots 2 and 6 respectively, but it's wrong. it should be pidove, not jigglypuff.

Oct 21st, 2012, 6:32:41 PM	#16203
Rhonder Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 9	Wanting to re-touch on my post and add a visual aid. Specifically this is the error message that i get when I try and close out of the RNG Profiles window: http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...i021/RNGBS.png Because of that I'm not able to find my seed or anything. The weird part though is that 2 days ago it seemed to work fine, but as of yesterday I started having this message pop up and hinder me

Oct 21st, 2012, 10:29:09 PM	#16208
cbeng Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7	Just wondering, when going for Lati@s, how does the step you take to get it to battle you affect the frames?

Oct 22nd, 2012, 12:09:16 AM	#16212
kandayuu Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	Hi,I'm currently struck in BW2 rng method. I will list down what did i do and hope anyone can help me identify the steps i've done wrong maybe. Right now i'm now wanted to do wild pokemon rng. For calibration 1. I brought along a sweet scenter (Foongus) 2. I found a spot in victory road with no npc and items lying around. Save the game there. 3. I restart my DSlite and set to 10/12/2012 05:30:25 and restart my ds 4. I press A when the second reach 25 sec and let it load (without pressing anything) till the game freak screen up 5. Once the screen is up, i press A all the way till the game load my saved game. 6. I sweet scent immediately and catch a pokemon 7. Copy down the nature, habits, stats and calculate the iv I Repeated step 3-7 for around 20 times to confirm the results -> Here lies one problem, different pokemon i encounter give me different iv values but the same pokemon give me same iv (E.g. 10XPiloswine i encounter all have naughty nature, hp 111, atk 78 and 12X Delibird have rash nature, hp 106, atk 57for example) Qn 1: Is the calibration on the right track? Qn 2: For BW2 after press A at the right second i notice that after the game freak logo appear the time taken to press A also affect the pokemon that you will encounter. E.g. When you see Zekrom shadow count 1 sec then enter game you will encounter delibird if 2 second count you will encounter piloswine. I'm getting so confuse, is it i have to wait for all the animation load finish instead of only stopping at game freak screen? For actual RNG 1. I just take this 3 result and generate a list of seeder and tried them all 2. For example: i gotten Frame 1 01/13/2012 05:30:19 i enter the game at 01/13/2012 05:30:18 <------ is this correct? 3. I sweet scent and caught a pokemon but that pokemon doesnt match the iv stat i wanted to generate. Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance if anyone could solved this problem i'm facing =)

Oct 22nd, 2012, 2:03:35 AM	#16219
Valkart Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 190	Hi guys, for ID/SID abuse on BW2, can I do the same RNG process like BW? Thanks in advance

Oct 22nd, 2012, 6:54:56 AM	#16225
Xanderpitz Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 48 Michigan	Ok, so I'm trying to RNG the Azelf on Route 23 and I'm a little bit confused as to what RNGReporter is telling me that I had hit. I know its a stationary pokemon and that there are NPCs (which usually advances the PIDRNG frame by 4 for me if I have to use Chatot [which i did]). Here's my parameters for the search: http://i.imgur.com/eGFHx.png http://i.imgur.com/MyqWY.png I ended up getting a non-shiny terrible Azelf instead, so I plugged in my time into the Adjacent Seed Tool to compare results. The problem is, it says I hit frame 3 of a nearby Timer0, when I advanced the PIDRNG frame 67 times with Chatot alone. Here's my find: http://i.imgur.com/3TfDv.png Any idea what that means?