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ThOnly1Lft · Mar 7th, 2013, 8:29:47 PM

Thank you both for your constructive answers and i will definitely be taking it all into consideration and coming back with any other help/results thanks again! :D

firestorm xl · Mar 8th, 2013, 1:51:46 AM

http://gyazo.com/567b0b2ecdce61b2f64aaaa61a40ff9b

http://gyazo.com/074f9ef592a6ff0608022e5e4213ed45

So im trying to RNG a shiny hp ghost 70 cobalion and for some reason i cannot seem to get it. I do 128 steps then do my chatot calls and i always get a non shiny cobalion with something wrong. Any help here?

**Stellar** · Mar 8th, 2013, 1:53:02 AM

Walking in a cave will advance the PID frame. You need to find a shiny HP Ghost spread on IV frame 1 (which does not require moving) if you want any chance of getting the correct Cobalion. Anything above IV frame 1 will be impossible.

The Agonist · Mar 8th, 2013, 1:54:53 AM

I'm assuming you've got five party Pokemon when you're walking your steps?

Walking in a cave advances the PIDRNG as well, in case you didn't know (each time you take a step, advances by 2, turn without taking a step, advances by 2). Are you at least getting the right IVs?

this is why you should stick to an IV frame of 1 :s

firestorm xl · Mar 8th, 2013, 1:58:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

I'm assuming you've got five party Pokemon when you're walking your steps?

Walking in a cave advances the PIDRNG as well, in case you didn't know (each time you take a step, advances by 2, turn without taking a step, advances by 2). Are you at least getting the right IVs?

this is why you should stick to an IV frame of 1 :s

Yes im getting the right iv's and have 5 pokes in my party. Already knew out the cave but figured it could be avoided but guess not lol

The Agonist · Mar 8th, 2013, 2:05:28 AM

You should always stick to an IV frame of 1, for this very reason.

Buckert · Mar 8th, 2013, 4:30:49 AM

So my keypress combo is Start X A. How do I do that? Can I just hold Start and X, and then on the second I need to press A, press A and hold it? Or should I press A, release it and right after that press the whole combo?

**V4Victini** · Mar 8th, 2013, 4:36:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Buckert

So my keypress combo is Start X A. How do I do that? Can I just hold Start and X, and then on the second I need to press A, press A and hold it? Or should I press A, release it and right after that press the whole combo?

You can press A and hold it

Buckert · Mar 8th, 2013, 4:45:17 AM

Ah, thanks! I thought so, but wasn't really sure since I couldn't get the same Cobalion twice in a row. Guess I screwed it xD

MonsterXA · Mar 8th, 2013, 9:03:57 PM

Does a flawless naive wondercard seed exist for pokemon white? I've been searching for one and it takes a long time to load. Is there a faster way to search for seeds? Thanks

Cereza · Mar 8th, 2013, 9:31:24 PM

you can add key presses.

firestorm xl · Mar 8th, 2013, 9:35:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat MonsterXA

Does a flawless naive wondercard seed exist for pokemon white? I've been searching for one and it takes a long time to load. Is there a faster way to search for seeds? Thanks

Try adding keypresses to your search you should be able to find one with keypresses in your search.

MonsterXA · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:14:47 PM

Yup, I added keypresses already, it just takes too long. I left it on for 3 hours and it was half way done with no results

-NLMRY- · Mar 9th, 2013, 3:26:06 AM

So I am attempting to abuse my TID in White 2 using PPRNG and this guide. I have followed it perfectly and have experience with every kind of common RNG abuse method since 4th gen (except this, of course). I have found a date, time, and key presses for my chosen ID; however, when I attempt to verify the seed and find my initial starting frame using PPRNG's "ID Frame Search" tab, I get no results.

pics for reference

I am completely lost as to what to do. I have a feeling it's a problem with W2's @#$%!##%# Timer0, especially because I usually have no trouble hitting it. I'm not sure if that's the only plausible explanation. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I hit the Timer0 at least once and got a result that listed the time I entered the game as being six seconds after when I actually hit A. I am using a DS Lite and have never had this issue before. I know that the 3DS takes eight seconds after pressing A, and as a result one should subtract that amount of time from when they do so. Not sure where to go with this. I have tried reducing the time by six seconds and got no results.

reference pic

Foxhound · Mar 9th, 2013, 4:34:06 AM

Hello, i've read that the first egg will always have certain DV, depending on an encounter with a wild pokemon, so that breeding should be nearly impossible. Now the question arises, if I can take the first egg, save in front of the grandfather and Rng the second egg with determined Dv, nature and so on. Thank you in advance!

The Agonist · Mar 9th, 2013, 4:37:55 AM

DS Lite delay is only one second, so it's possible you hit a different timer0 that gave the same TID as the result you found. You're only searching 10F5, so it's only searching for matching results under the 10F5 timer0 (afaik, anyway).

-NLMRY- · Mar 9th, 2013, 10:30:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

DS Lite delay is only one second, so it's possible you hit a different timer0 that gave the same TID as the result you found. You're only searching 10F5, so it's only searching for matching results under the 10F5 timer0 (afaik, anyway).

I use 10F5 because I got good at hitting that T0 for all other RNG purposes, and given the volatile nature of the T0 I figured that was enough. Would you suggest expanding the range of possible T0's? And if I do that are you suggesting that I will be more likely to find results for what I am actually getting? The thing with that is wouldn't it be meaningless if the seed I need to hit is using 10F5 anyway?

Reshiram89 · Mar 10th, 2013, 12:22:34 AM

@NLMRY Is it possible that you selected the same date in the ID search box to match your IV seed? cos when I tried this on Black using the RNG reporter I found that the ID search box would give me a list of IDs for that date but if I tried to find the initial starting frame it would never give me any results. Instead I had to settle for an ID from the day befor the IV seed, if that makes any sense. I'm asking this because I originally wanted the trainers card and the date on my starter to match but for the life of me I couldn't get it to work.

Of course it could easilly be a problem with your Timer0 though since I've heard that BW2 can have as many as 20-30 different Timer0's if you have a game that really hates you, lol.

chiizu · Mar 10th, 2013, 12:29:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat -NLMRY-

I use 10F5 because I got good at hitting that T0 for all other RNG purposes, and given the volatile nature of the T0 I figured that was enough. Would you suggest expanding the range of possible T0's? And if I do that are you suggesting that I will be more likely to find results for what I am actually getting? The thing with that is wouldn't it be meaningless if the seed I need to hit is using 10F5 anyway?

In your sample screenshot where you got an ID of 16603 you hit a timer0 of 10f3, and for the 33037 result you hit a timer0 of 10f6. Unfortunately, for TID frame searching, PPRNG currently only searches timer0 values in the range specified in your configuration. Since you only have 10f5 set in your config, it will not find results on 10f6.

When searching for good seeds it makes sense to narrow your timer0 range to those values which you can usually hit, but in this case you should widen it to allow you to find what you are actually hitting.

dtruth · Mar 10th, 2013, 1:15:58 AM

Is anyone else having issues with the Generate Adjacent Seeds results? I seem to never see the the current results. Also the current seed I'm looking for never shows up in the results window.

Plumage · Mar 10th, 2013, 3:17:37 AM

I am attempting to RNG a flawless IV wondercard Keldeo on a White 2 game on a DSi. I've done over 20 calibrations to find my timer0s and have encountered every T0 between 1672 and 167F. They all show up about equally, with no dominant T0s. My most common T0 was 167A, which showed up about 20% of the time during calibration.

Calibration Results

Using PPRNG I found a wondercard seed with flawless IVs searching for a Timer0 of 167A and a VCount of AD. I have saved in front of the delivery man in the Pokemon Centre by the elite four and have tried to hit my timer0 about 20 times. I have yet to hit any frame from this seed and cannot even match my results to frames from other possible timer0s. My seed is DBB55E6BC2A78C9D with the flawless timid frame at 82. My MAC Address is E0-E7-51-15-28-8C.

Spreads received when trying to hit seed.

I have successfully RNGed in White for some time now, but have found it impossible to make any progress in White 2. Thanks in advance!

-NLMRY- · Mar 10th, 2013, 3:26:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

In your sample screenshot where you got an ID of 16603 you hit a timer0 of 10f3, and for the 33037 result you hit a timer0 of 10f6. Unfortunately, for TID frame searching, PPRNG currently only searches timer0 values in the range specified in your configuration. Since you only have 10f5 set in your config, it will not find results on 10f6.

When searching for good seeds it makes sense to narrow your timer0 range to those values which you can usually hit, but in this case you should widen it to allow you to find what you are actually hitting.

Thank you, that was very helpful. I set them to 10f3-10f6 and get results every time.

Mo96 · Mar 10th, 2013, 12:00:19 PM

I have battled the WNPC in the dreamyard but he did not become stationary and this will affect the PIDRNG when I RNG latios. I still have not saved though, just to make sure I am doing things correctly. What could the problem be?

The Agonist · Mar 10th, 2013, 1:17:46 PM

You need to make him move off the tile he's standing on. Then, he'll become stationary for the duration of your visit to the Dreamyard.

lucariojr · Mar 10th, 2013, 4:55:15 PM

What wondercard method does the event Cloyster use? I mean, it has a set gender, but its nature is also set...

Mar 8th, 2013, 1:51:46 AM	#18677
firestorm xl Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 430	http://gyazo.com/567b0b2ecdce61b2f64aaaa61a40ff9b http://gyazo.com/074f9ef592a6ff0608022e5e4213ed45 So im trying to RNG a shiny hp ghost 70 cobalion and for some reason i cannot seem to get it. I do 128 steps then do my chatot calls and i always get a non shiny cobalion with something wrong. Any help here? __________________ White Friendcode:3053-6810-6674 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3480154<---- New trade thread.

Mar 8th, 2013, 1:54:53 AM	#18679
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,016 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	I'm assuming you've got five party Pokemon when you're walking your steps? Walking in a cave advances the PIDRNG as well, in case you didn't know (each time you take a step, advances by 2, turn without taking a step, advances by 2). Are you at least getting the right IVs? this is why you should stick to an IV frame of 1 :s __________________ #

Mar 8th, 2013, 2:05:28 AM	#18681
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,016 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	You should always stick to an IV frame of 1, for this very reason. __________________ #

Mar 8th, 2013, 4:30:49 AM	#18682
Buckert Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,623 The Netherlands	So my keypress combo is Start X A. How do I do that? Can I just hold Start and X, and then on the second I need to press A, press A and hold it? Or should I press A, release it and right after that press the whole combo? __________________ Buckert's RNG Pokédex Wild Eep: Buckert knows what's what.

Mar 8th, 2013, 4:45:17 AM	#18684
Buckert Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,623 The Netherlands	Ah, thanks! I thought so, but wasn't really sure since I couldn't get the same Cobalion twice in a row. Guess I screwed it xD __________________ Buckert's RNG Pokédex Wild Eep: Buckert knows what's what.

Mar 7th, 2013, 8:29:47 PM	#18676
ThOnly1Lft Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 18	Thank you both for your constructive answers and i will definitely be taking it all into consideration and coming back with any other help/results thanks again! :D

Mar 8th, 2013, 1:53:02 AM	#18678
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Walking in a cave will advance the PID frame. You need to find a shiny HP Ghost spread on IV frame 1 (which does not require moving) if you want any chance of getting the correct Cobalion. Anything above IV frame 1 will be impossible.

Mar 8th, 2013, 9:03:57 PM	#18685
MonsterXA Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 11	Does a flawless naive wondercard seed exist for pokemon white? I've been searching for one and it takes a long time to load. Is there a faster way to search for seeds? Thanks

Mar 8th, 2013, 9:31:24 PM	#18686
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,145 Long Island	you can add key presses.

Mar 8th, 2013, 11:14:47 PM	#18688
MonsterXA Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 11	Yup, I added keypresses already, it just takes too long. I left it on for 3 hours and it was half way done with no results

Mar 9th, 2013, 3:26:06 AM	#18689
-NLMRY- Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 201 New York	So I am attempting to abuse my TID in White 2 using PPRNG and this guide. I have followed it perfectly and have experience with every kind of common RNG abuse method since 4th gen (except this, of course). I have found a date, time, and key presses for my chosen ID; however, when I attempt to verify the seed and find my initial starting frame using PPRNG's "ID Frame Search" tab, I get no results. pics for reference I am completely lost as to what to do. I have a feeling it's a problem with W2's @#$%!##%# Timer0, especially because I usually have no trouble hitting it. I'm not sure if that's the only plausible explanation. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Edit: I hit the Timer0 at least once and got a result that listed the time I entered the game as being six seconds after when I actually hit A. I am using a DS Lite and have never had this issue before. I know that the 3DS takes eight seconds after pressing A, and as a result one should subtract that amount of time from when they do so. Not sure where to go with this. I have tried reducing the time by six seconds and got no results. reference pic __________________ My Trade Thread

Mar 9th, 2013, 4:34:06 AM	#18690
Foxhound Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1	Hello, i've read that the first egg will always have certain DV, depending on an encounter with a wild pokemon, so that breeding should be nearly impossible. Now the question arises, if I can take the first egg, save in front of the grandfather and Rng the second egg with determined Dv, nature and so on. Thank you in advance!

Mar 9th, 2013, 4:37:55 AM	#18691
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,016 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	DS Lite delay is only one second, so it's possible you hit a different timer0 that gave the same TID as the result you found. You're only searching 10F5, so it's only searching for matching results under the 10F5 timer0 (afaik, anyway). __________________ #

Mar 10th, 2013, 12:22:34 AM	#18693
Reshiram89 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 195 Australia	@NLMRY Is it possible that you selected the same date in the ID search box to match your IV seed? cos when I tried this on Black using the RNG reporter I found that the ID search box would give me a list of IDs for that date but if I tried to find the initial starting frame it would never give me any results. Instead I had to settle for an ID from the day befor the IV seed, if that makes any sense. I'm asking this because I originally wanted the trainers card and the date on my starter to match but for the life of me I couldn't get it to work. Of course it could easilly be a problem with your Timer0 though since I've heard that BW2 can have as many as 20-30 different Timer0's if you have a game that really hates you, lol.

Mar 10th, 2013, 1:15:58 AM	#18695
dtruth Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 62	Is anyone else having issues with the Generate Adjacent Seeds results? I seem to never see the the current results. Also the current seed I'm looking for never shows up in the results window. __________________ Platinum FC: 3223 1695 3341

Mar 10th, 2013, 3:17:37 AM	#18696
Plumage Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1 Canada	I am attempting to RNG a flawless IV wondercard Keldeo on a White 2 game on a DSi. I've done over 20 calibrations to find my timer0s and have encountered every T0 between 1672 and 167F. They all show up about equally, with no dominant T0s. My most common T0 was 167A, which showed up about 20% of the time during calibration. Calibration Results Timer0 VCount Vframe 167D AD 8 1677 AD 8 167F AD 8 1673 AC 8 1675 AD 8 1672 AC 8 167C AD 8 1672 AC 8 167A AD 8 1676 AD 8 167A AD 8 1672 AC 8 1673 AC 8 1679 AD 8 1674 AD 8 167E AD 8 167E AD 8 167A AD 8 1677 AD 8 167A AD 8 1671 AC 8 1675 AD 8 1674 AD 8 Using PPRNG I found a wondercard seed with flawless IVs searching for a Timer0 of 167A and a VCount of AD. I have saved in front of the delivery man in the Pokemon Centre by the elite four and have tried to hit my timer0 about 20 times. I have yet to hit any frame from this seed and cannot even match my results to frames from other possible timer0s. My seed is DBB55E6BC2A78C9D with the flawless timid frame at 82. My MAC Address is E0-E7-51-15-28-8C. Spreads received when trying to hit seed. Timid Often dozes off. 20-21 / 0-1 / 14-15 / 16-17 / 14-15 / 20-21 Adamant Likes to thrash about. 22-23 / 30-31 / 22-23 / 28-29 / 2-3 / 0-1 Relaxed Quick to flee. 20-21 / 16-17 / 2-3 / 24-25 / 4-5 / 28-29 Impish Strong willed. 26-27/ 24-25 / 14-15 / 18-19 / 30-31 /2-3 Quiet Good endurance. 6-7/ 20-21 / 28-29 / 10-11 / 2-3 / 18-19 Timid Likes to thrash about. 14-15 / 30-31 / 6-7 / 8-9 / 10-11 / 0-1 I have successfully RNGed in White for some time now, but have found it impossible to make any progress in White 2. Thanks in advance!

Mar 10th, 2013, 12:00:19 PM	#18698
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	I have battled the WNPC in the dreamyard but he did not become stationary and this will affect the PIDRNG when I RNG latios. I still have not saved though, just to make sure I am doing things correctly. What could the problem be?

Mar 10th, 2013, 1:17:46 PM	#18699
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,016 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	You need to make him move off the tile he's standing on. Then, he'll become stationary for the duration of your visit to the Dreamyard. __________________ #

Mar 10th, 2013, 4:55:15 PM	#18700
lucariojr stranger'n a snake's suspenders, but sweeter'n a stolen kiss Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 955 Mississippi	What wondercard method does the event Cloyster use? I mean, it has a set gender, but its nature is also set... __________________ aint i a piece of work