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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 12:59:27 AM   #1
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Default Smogcast 9: Black & White OU Round 3- Released!



That's right, it's the moment you've all been waiting for! The ninth episode of The Smogcast has finally been released! Join your friendly local Ever Grande BIGS for a look at the OU Metagame for round 3, discussing topics such as:

- Reuniclus' impact on the metagame
- The resurgence of Dragon-types
- Weather Wars
- The Genies

And other topics of general interest! Joining me are JabbaTheGriffin, locopoke, and idiotfrommars, 3 members of The Ever Grande BIGS. This Smogcast is filled with important strategic tips, interesting metagame information, and hilarious moments from our panelists.

MP3 Download - Remember to right-click the link and press "Save link as..." or "Save target as..." if you're having problems downloading it.

Youtube link

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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 1:09:51 AM   #2
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That's right, it's the moment you've all been waiting for! The ninth episode of The Smogcast has finally been released! Join your friendly local Ever Grande BIGS for a look at the OU Metagame for round 3, discussing topics such as:

- Reuniclus' impact on the metagame
- The resurgence of Dragon-types
- Weather Wars
- The Genies

And other topics of general interest! Joining me are JabbaTheGriffin, locopoke, and idiotfrommars, 3 members of The Ever Grande BIGS. This Smogcast is filled with important strategic tips, interesting metagame information, and hilarious moments from our panelists.

MP3 Download - Remember to right-click the link and press "Save link as..." or "Save target as..." if you're having problems downloading it.

Youtube link coming soon!

We'll also work on restoring the RSS Feed for ITunes and Zune Marketplace.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 1:57:46 AM   #3
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The Youtube version is now live!

I divided it into 6 parts 10 minutes apiece except for the last part, enjoy.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...B4CD17FCF1FC2E
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 2:06:46 AM   #4
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FINALLY! My god, it feels like I have been waiting for weeks
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 2:15:00 AM   #5
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there's a lot of awesome non-pokemon related material that i'm hoping cim can cut into smogcast: bloopers that includes: a discussion on our first crushes, a difficult decision of what shot glass i should use, and my locopoke impression

anyway i had fun doing this again! sorry in advance to users i insulted i didn't mean it i swear
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 2:26:14 AM   #6
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there's a lot of awesome non-pokemon related material that i'm hoping cim can cut into smogcast: bloopers that includes: a discussion on our first crushes, a difficult decision of what shot glass i should use, and my locopoke impression

anyway i had fun doing this again! sorry in advance to users i insulted i didn't mean it i swear
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 2:30:10 AM   #7
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Haha, SDS had me cracking up every 10 minutes. Definitely worth the wait.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 2:57:18 AM   #8
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 3:53:05 AM   #9
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I have been using a Calm Reuniclus w/ Flame Orb, T-Wave, Recover and Psychic as a lead. It instantly cripples 1/3 of your opponents team, as they switch to something that gets T-Wave because as you mention they don't see it coming. So then they'll switch out of that and get Flame Orbed. Or Vise Versa.

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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 5:42:31 AM   #10
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ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-ex whatever.

good job, that was interesting... well, at least to the point where I am (20:00 minutes)
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 7:01:49 AM   #11
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Glad I woke up early. Nothing like a podcast to start the day.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 8:14:47 AM   #13
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You mean Legendary Troll
Troll Trio Voltroll, Trollneros, Lantroll

Yeah to think Torneros is bashed back in early BW

BTW i use Deoxys-D lol
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Taunt WOW set is one of the set i used from smogon server made and whole round 2 too
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 9:43:52 AM   #14
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Nice work guys, it is always enjoyable to hear new voices and a little non-pokemon related talk. The insults were dirty...

Thanks, bye.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 1:02:42 PM   #15
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Literally just in time for me to listen to it on a plane ride.

Excellent. Sorry I was being so impatient before :/
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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 1:48:59 PM   #16
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I'm a smogcast subscriber on iTunes; regarding the above, is there a timeline of when we can expect the iTunes version?

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Old Mar 23rd, 2011, 6:53:31 PM   #17
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I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask of this, but is there a transcript for this? I'm going through surgery to fix my ears and until then, I can bairly hear a thing.
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y'all mentioned chansey and blissey with wish, but how do they get it? I checked 2 different sites, and they don't seem to get it
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After a hiatus from Pokemon, I decide to give this a listen in preparation of a return to the competitive scene.

This was first, and possibly last, Smogcast I will listen to.

I was expecting some kind of educated discussion about the state of the metagame, point and counter-point type debate. Facts, numbers, theories and ideas.

What we have here is actually just opinionated, filled with loaded language. I'm sorry but "Fucking" and "Retarded" are not good ways to get a point across. I feel like this kind of a display detracts from Smogon's reputation, and frankly it makes the people in the podcast sound like buffoons.
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there is a lot less language in the other smogcasts, the amount of language in this one is mostly a response to the panelists having to deal with the ridiculous number of things that are overpowered in comparison to the standard metagame in the last generation
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After a hiatus from Pokemon, I decide to give this a listen in preparation of a return to the competitive scene.

This was first, and possibly last, Smogcast I will listen to.

I was expecting some kind of educated discussion about the state of the metagame, point and counter-point type debate. Facts, numbers, theories and ideas.

What we have here is actually just opinionated, filled with loaded language. I'm sorry but "Fucking" and "Retarded" are not good ways to get a point across. I feel like this kind of a display detracts from Smogon's reputation, and frankly it makes the people in the podcast sound like buffoons.
Personally i thout this smogcast was very funny/amusing and i will definitely keep listening (ive only heard #8 & #9 by the way).

Best part was when they were talking about the genie bros.
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After a hiatus from Pokemon, I decide to give this a listen in preparation of a return to the competitive scene.

This was first, and possibly last, Smogcast I will listen to.

I was expecting some kind of educated discussion about the state of the metagame, point and counter-point type debate. Facts, numbers, theories and ideas.

What we have here is actually just opinionated, filled with loaded language. I'm sorry but "Fucking" and "Retarded" are not good ways to get a point across. I feel like this kind of a display detracts from Smogon's reputation, and frankly it makes the people in the podcast sound like buffoons.
this is the smogcast. not cnn election coverage.


(on a serious note though i think the constant strings of "x is fucking retarded" is mostly due to everyone on the panel agreeing. for future smogcasts it'd actually be nice to have a split on the panel so that instead of us just saying thundurus is retarded strong we can actually have people on the other side present points that we can actually refute and argue about. the past 2 smogcasts have honestly been a bit redundant in some areas so i'd actually like to see it either branch out into another metagame, i'm thinking Ubers, or if they want to keep going with ou at least have some strong voices on the non ban-happy side. just my two cents since i'd like to see some actual discussion too)
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Retarded is a poor use of words in most situations.
Fucking can be very appropriate depending on how it was used.
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After a hiatus from Pokemon, I decide to give this a listen in preparation of a return to the competitive scene.

This was first, and possibly last, Smogcast I will listen to.

I was expecting some kind of educated discussion about the state of the metagame, point and counter-point type debate. Facts, numbers, theories and ideas.

What we have here is actually just opinionated, filled with loaded language. I'm sorry but "Fucking" and "Retarded" are not good ways to get a point across. I feel like this kind of a display detracts from Smogon's reputation, and frankly it makes the people in the podcast sound like buffoons.
I'm sorry you felt this way, but I've got a couple things to note here.

1: We're looking to amuse just as much as inform, and while this IS meant to teach to an extent, it's more just a "state of the game" thing. Part of the point is to discuss the top threats and see what top battlers think about the metagame. That said, we are most definitely informative. We did have discussion about what we thought of the top threats in the metagame, and we even had an in-depth discussion about the effects of weather and why Rain and Sun are more broken than Sandstorm, as well as why Rain is better than Sun.

2: I'm sorry that you were offended by our choice of language, but you are not a representative slice of the Smogon community, and we do tend to feel strongly about this kind of thing. Furthermore, I personally feel that to an extent, censorship makes the conversation feel clunky.

3: Of course we're going to be "opinionated". To make this objective and informative and censored and squeaky-clean would just result in a dry, dull Smogcast.

It's a shame that you responded badly to this, but considering that you appear to be a minority voice, we'll probably keep doing it our way. We don't force you to listen to the Smogcast, and we're dedicated to providing an entertaining experience for our listening audience. We will be attempting to seek out more diverging opinions and increasing the likelihood of debate, but to be quite honest, there's a lot less of that diverging opinion in Generation 5 right now. In the future there's likely to be a lot more room for debate, but until then, we'll keep bringing our unique blend of debate, information, and entertainment. To the rest of you, we hope you'll keep listening, and thanks for being dedicated fans of The Smogcast!
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Solid smogcast episode. I know I say this everytime, but I really mean it, this episode of the smogcast was solid. The panelists have excellent synergy with each other, and their explanations as to why they thought drought/drizzle/etc are broken were well thought out. I also really enjoyed the humor. It wasn't forced, and every joke was short and sweet (it looked like the panelists really had some fun making this smogcast)
IFM needed to talk so more, and locopoke randomly dipped halfway through but other than that the smogcast was solid.

I give this episode of the smogcast 3 geniebros out of 10. (8.5/10 basically)

Edit: Why did you take a hiatus you have 10 posts on this forum. -_-
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