OU Round 2 Suspect Voting: Aldaron's Proposal

Philip7086 · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:26:41 PM

Hey everybody, thanks for participating in another round of 5th generation suspect testing! The nominations and special permissions applications are all in, and here's the list of qualified voters:

Qualified Voters

The first thing we will be voting on this round (and the purpose of this thread) is Aldaron's proposal. If you are unfamiliar with what I'm referring to, please read the OP of the thread I just linked (I will not summarize it, as you should be familiar with the entire thing before casting a vote). After this is voted on, we will move on to an ability vote, then a Pokemon vote. If this proposal passes, we will forgo the ability vote, as the only successfully nominated ability this round was Drizzle. Please post with one of the following options:

Quote:

Support Aldaron's Proposal
Do Not Support Aldaron's Proposal
Abstain

If you wish to give an explanation for your vote, you are welcome to, but make sure to bold your actual vote! This poll will close at 11:59 PM on Friday, January 28th, or whenever a result is reached

Just a reminder to Policy Review moderators and super moderators: delete your posts after you make them!

Heist · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:31:06 PM

Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal.

Delta 2777 · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:31:30 PM

Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal.

yondie · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:32:19 PM

I support Aldaron's Proposal.

PttP · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:34:19 PM

DO NOT SUPPORT ALDARON'S PROPOSAL

>:((((((((((((((((((

Arc Tech · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:35:21 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Aeroblacktyl · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:37:16 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

wilson46 · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:39:02 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

***JabbaTheGriffin**** · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:40:51 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

uraga · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:41:21 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

it makes sense

Jonathan · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:44:05 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Rag · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:45:38 PM

I support Aldaron's Proposal.

**locopoke** · Jan 24th, 2011, 10:58:54 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Snunch · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:00:31 PM

Do Not Support Aldaron's Proposal

idiotfrommars · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:00:44 PM

Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal.

I am beginning to warm up to Aldaron's proposal, but I would really like to see rain tested first without Manaphy before we take drastic measures in weakening it or banning it completely. After spending a lot of time on the PO server where the only tier difference is no Manaphy, I can say with relative conviction that rain is much less broken there. If it comes down to it though I would rather see Aldaron's proposal go through than a ban on drizzle, but I think we should consider playing in a Manaphy free meta-game before we approve the proposal.

dbolt · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:06:33 PM

1:32dbolti should have voted to support your proposal to see if drizzle will actually get used

Zephyr · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:11:30 PM

Abstain

Lamppost · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:12:10 PM

support aldaron's proposal

Nails · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:13:50 PM

Do not support Aldaron's proposal

I feel complex bans are unnecessary when a drizzle ban provides largely the same outcome, without opening up a can of worms that can't be closed. Precedent is a dangerous thing.

***Iconic**** · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:21:31 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

I still believe that Doryuuzu and Randorusu will be broken and banned without Drizzle + Swift Swim, and I honestly feel that Drizzle has a good chance of being banned even without Swift Swim but I guess "it doesn't hurt to try".

makiri · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:35:21 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Rhys DeAnno · Jan 24th, 2011, 11:43:12 PM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Though I don't really like the idea of the metagame being in this convoluted state long term, this is similar enough to the first stage of Pocket's proposal that we can attempt to continue it next round should Drizzle prove unbroken. Since the alternative by the numbers is clearly going to be a ban of Drizzle entirely, I have to support this.

DarkLucario · Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52:33 AM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

**Eo Ut Mortus** · Jan 25th, 2011, 2:03:03 AM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Maaf · Jan 25th, 2011, 4:24:39 AM

Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:31:06 PM	#2
Heist Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,163	Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal. Last edited by Aldaron; Jan 25th, 2011 at 6:10:03 PM. Reason: Heist has given me permission to edit his post because he cannot

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:31:30 PM	#3
Delta 2777 ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ ก้้้้้้้้็็็็็็ Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,199	Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal. __________________ #lifting on IRC <tito>: delta i never knew u won a smogon tour <tito>: congratz http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...N/9412ad9b.jpg Last edited by Aldaron; Jan 25th, 2011 at 6:10:30 PM. Reason: Delta2777 gave me permission to edit his post because he cannot

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:32:19 PM	#4
yondie EAST SIDE Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,664	I support Aldaron's Proposal. __________________

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:37:16 PM	#7
Aeroblacktyl The pizza doesn't scream in the oven! LOL! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,335	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:40:51 PM	#9
*JabbaTheGriffin Kid just rages for a while Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,853 you get sloppy drunk, i stay whiskey neat	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:34:19 PM	#5
PttP im kinda the shit Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 755	DO NOT SUPPORT ALDARON'S PROPOSAL >:((((((((((((((((((

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:35:21 PM	#6
Arc Tech Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 661	Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:39:02 PM	#8
wilson46 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 709 Canada	Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:41:21 PM	#10
uraga Walking the streets with you in your worn-out jeans, I can't help thinking this is how it ought to be Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 865 8=D	Support Aldaron's Proposal it makes sense __________________ <&Eo> wait bluewind are you into anal ******* uraga was kicked by Colonel_M (<- queer) Avatar from Fatecrashers, check his art thread it is fantastic Do you lift weights? Check out #lifting on IRC!

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:44:05 PM	#11
Jonathan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 612	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________ What, you don't think Lanturn can 6-0 a team of Blissey, Latias, Rotom-h, Swampert, Jirachi, and Foretress? Visit my profile for the log or check out the analysis! Diamond FC: 1376 4713 5893 My Trade Thread

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:45:38 PM	#12
Rag Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 458	I support Aldaron's Proposal. __________________ Chispas vanillatea

Jan 24th, 2011, 10:58:54 PM	#13
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,746	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:00:31 PM	#14
Snunch 6675636B20656F Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,024 great signature by Lunar.	Do Not Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:00:44 PM	#15
idiotfrommars schemes and plots are the same thing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,037 Michigan	Abstain, however, should my abstain be counted towards "no," I would like to make this vote a support for Aldaron's proposal. I am beginning to warm up to Aldaron's proposal, but I would really like to see rain tested first without Manaphy before we take drastic measures in weakening it or banning it completely. After spending a lot of time on the PO server where the only tier difference is no Manaphy, I can say with relative conviction that rain is much less broken there. If it comes down to it though I would rather see Aldaron's proposal go through than a ban on drizzle, but I think we should consider playing in a Manaphy free meta-game before we approve the proposal. __________________ Last edited by Aldaron; Jan 25th, 2011 at 6:10:55 PM. Reason: IFM gave me permission to edit his post because he cannot

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:06:33 PM	#16
dbolt Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 464 Location	1:32dbolti should have voted to support your proposal to see if drizzle will actually get used __________________ nothing to see here. Last edited by Aldaron; Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:37:45 PM. Reason: dbolt gave me permission to edit this line into his post

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:11:30 PM	#17
Zephyr Life Stream Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,325 Detroit, Michigan	Abstain __________________ Your values is a disarrayed, prioritizing horribly Unhappy with the riches cause your piss poor morally Ignoring all prior advice and fore warning, and mighty full of ourselves all of a sudden aren't we?

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:12:10 PM	#18
Lamppost I put the milk in first Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,065 Akron, Ohio	support aldaron's proposal __________________ <20:04> uragg there is no better feeling <20:04> uragg than moisturizing your legs <20:04> uragg when they are ashy

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:13:50 PM	#19
Nails I wanna be a red panda when I grow up Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,255	Do not support Aldaron's proposal I feel complex bans are unnecessary when a drizzle ban provides largely the same outcome, without opening up a can of worms that can't be closed. Precedent is a dangerous thing. __________________ reyscarface: nails unluckiest man alive Eternal: no ghosting Das

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:21:31 PM	#20
*Iconic Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,801 Canadaland Mentor	Support Aldaron's Proposal I still believe that Doryuuzu and Randorusu will be broken and banned without Drizzle + Swift Swim, and I honestly feel that Drizzle has a good chance of being banned even without Swift Swim but I guess "it doesn't hurt to try". __________________ ◠‿◠

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:35:21 PM	#21
makiri La-li-lu-le-lo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,162 SHARK ATTACK	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________

Jan 24th, 2011, 11:43:12 PM	#22
Rhys DeAnno Slacking Off Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 144 The Ladder	Support Aldaron's Proposal Though I don't really like the idea of the metagame being in this convoluted state long term, this is similar enough to the first stage of Pocket's proposal that we can attempt to continue it next round should Drizzle prove unbroken. Since the alternative by the numbers is clearly going to be a ban of Drizzle entirely, I have to support this. __________________ PS! Alts: Rhys DeAnno, Insane Rhys, Rhys DA PS! Challenges Completed: Randbats, Ubers Suspect Votes: BW OU Round 1, 2, 9, 10

Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52:33 AM	#23
DarkLucario Kämpfe für deinen Traum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 257 Germany	Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 25th, 2011, 2:03:03 AM	#24
Eo Ut Mortus EL GUIMO Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,108 meow	Support Aldaron's Proposal

Jan 25th, 2011, 4:24:39 AM	#25
Maaf Let's go for Nanar sweep Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 393 Cute City	Support Aldaron's Proposal __________________ davidness: ojama es noob de adv davidness: jajaja ᕦ(ˇò_ó)ᕤ ᕦ(ˇò_ó)ᕤ ᕦ(ˇò_ó)ᕤ