CaPmon Sprite Revamping - Page 4

Onetwobanana · Mar 24th, 2011, 1:16:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Objection

I think the reasoning behind "Privatyke" was that "privateer" is another name for a pirate.

Privateer and pirate are two distinctly separate things.

Privateers were employed by whatever Navy - they often acted as pirates, but only towards enemies of whichever royalty employed them. A Spanish privateer would never attack a Spanish merchant vessel, and would even defend one under attack. Pirates had no such limitations.

That's neither here nor there, though. Great jobs on the sprites so far, guys!

Chubbs · Mar 24th, 2011, 2:37:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Objection

I think the reasoning behind "Privatyke" was that "privateer" is another name for a pirate.

I thought that it was because of Private but idk

heatran1919 · Mar 24th, 2011, 4:23:53 PM

Hey guys. I got a little bit bored, so I took a swing at a shiny for Colosshale.

We all live in a yellow submarine~
Yellow submarine~
Yellow submarine~

elementalheroshadow · Mar 25th, 2011, 6:09:09 PM

can i call voodoom and kitsuno?

EDIT: too late! already finished voodoom!

changed the shiny's heart/pins to orange. it just bothered me that it was the same as one of the arm colors.

SgtWoodsy · Mar 25th, 2011, 11:59:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat elementalheroshadow

Not bad, but the needle is supposed to be facing the other way in the backsprite.

EDIT: Also, the head pins are facing the wrong way and are also sticking out of the wrong half in his backsprite.

Wyverii · Mar 26th, 2011, 4:13:31 AM

The Kitsunoh back posted for the current front is excellent. It is true that BW sprites don't have poses that would imply being in the middle of a motion such as the jumping one here but if we don't have the time to change the front it'll make an excellent back. Leading paw is the wrong side and there are a few perspective issues as it gets to the legs. Good contribution.

I have no idea what's going on with the voodoom above. In all respects what was done to the front is closer to a 2nd gen sprite than a 5th. Overdithered everywhere. Excellent shading from the original was removed or changed in odd ways such as on the leg and neck moving it towards an almost pillowshaded look. There are also pixel fragments in the outlines of parts, seemingly random black pixels peppered in with colours too light to meld it in with the outline correctly. The back suffers from the same problems as the front and a few odd proportions with the arms. I'm not going to lie, this is a bad attempt.

It would be faster to scrap and reattempt if you're intent on continuing the voodoom but I'd recommend you try something easier for a while and get your basics in shape. The artists here should be happy to help you out as much as possible. You've got potential but you seem to have picked up a lot of bad habits on the way.

Darkhuaza517 · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:16:20 AM

Here's my Krilowatt prevo. I call it Attowatt, but feel free to suggest names.

I tried hard for this and I know I'm not the best spriter, so you can always tell me some things I need to change.

CTNC · Mar 26th, 2011, 9:59:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Darkhuaza517

Here's my Krilowatt prevo. I call it Attowatt, but feel free to suggest names.

I tried hard for this and I know I'm not the best spriter, so you can always tell me some things I need to change.

Not the best spriter? Um... I guess it's true if there's always somebody better than you, but this looks really good.

McLuvdisc · Mar 26th, 2011, 11:21:37 AM

Wow, these look great! The only one I'm kinda worried about is Syclant. In the new sprite, his lowermost pair of icicle wing things are far shorter and narrower than the original. In addition, I think the angle of the wings should be changed. In the new sprite, they're almost perpendicular to his spine (yeah, I know bugs don't have vertebrae, but you get the idea). That wasn't the way it was in the original. Finally, I'd like to see more of Syclant's face in the backsprite (especially those awesome icy mandibles) but of course that's just a personal preference. Other than that, I love the posing and the overall design. I can imagine that Syclant would be a very difficult sprite to remake (what with his odd body shape and loads of little details) and this spriter certainly pulled it off with aplomb.

Edit: I love your prevo, Darkhuaza!

Edit 2: I'd actually like to retract the point I made earlier about the angle of Syclant's wings. The spriter who did the remake was simply trying to stay faithful to the original front sprite, and overall I like their design better. No offense to Syclant's original spriter, but it doesn't make sense to have Syclant's wings spread out all around him in his frontsprite, then fold them back in the backsprite so you can see his face more clearly.

Darkhuaza517 · Mar 26th, 2011, 12:55:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CTNC

Not the best spriter? Um... I guess it's true if there's always somebody better than you, but this looks really good.

Thank you very much, it means a lot to me.

elementalheroshadow · Mar 26th, 2011, 1:24:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wyverii

I have no idea what's going on with the voodoom above. In all respects what was done to the front is closer to a 2nd gen sprite than a 5th. Overdithered everywhere. Excellent shading from the original was removed or changed in odd ways such as on the leg and neck moving it towards an almost pillowshaded look. There are also pixel fragments in the outlines of parts, seemingly random black pixels peppered in with colours too light to meld it in with the outline correctly. The back suffers from the same problems as the front and a few odd proportions with the arms. I'm not going to lie, this is a bad attempt.

It would be faster to scrap and reattempt if you're intent on continuing the voodoom but I'd recommend you try something easier for a while and get your basics in shape. The artists here should be happy to help you out as much as possible. You've got potential but you seem to have picked up a lot of bad habits on the way.

dude, i DO sort-of know what i'm doing as far as spriting goes (proof: http://elementalheroshadow2.devianta...llery/10369073). the dithering was an attempt at getting the texture of the fabric a voodoo doll would be made of. guess i failed there, huh? the back, yeah i screwed up on quite a few things. don't usually do backsprites honestly. it kinda shows. don't know how the hell i screwed up the pin, as it's sort of an obvious thing.

thanks though. i'll try to fix it best i can.

Darkhuaza517 · Mar 27th, 2011, 7:22:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Darkamber8828

Uh, not meant to wound, but shouldn't the prevo's sprite be smaller than the evo?

Not really. Bellossom is smaller than Gloom - even smaller than Oddish - and Porygon2 is smaller than Porygon.

KoA · Mar 27th, 2011, 6:14:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat McLuvdisc

Edit 2: I'd actually like to retract the point I made earlier about the angle of Syclant's wings. The spriter who did the remake was simply trying to stay faithful to the original front sprite, and overall I like their design better. No offense to Syclant's original spriter, but it doesn't make sense to have Syclant's wings spread out all around him in his frontsprite, then fold them back in the backsprite so you can see his face more clearly.

In my defense, It was done in the style of Diamond and Pearl where the front sprite didn't necessarily mirror the back ones always. I did the wings like that because I wanted the player to see Syclan'ts face a bit. I do like Wyverii's reworking alot. She kept the charm of the originals while still making it unique.

Wyverii · Mar 28th, 2011, 6:43:53 AM

Spiffy returns!

Cyclohm's done for now. Not much changed at the front, just some highlights shifted around.

As for syclant the size of the lowest set of wings was changed for two reasons. First I was incorperating some elements from both the original design which has tiny cross shaped lower wings and cartoons design. Second it shows off the abdomen more which would otherwise be completely covered. If anything my biggest concern would be with how cluttered the backsprite is, but if I am to keep the current front then there's not too much I can do about that. It's similar to how Fidgit's backsprite is cluttered too.

LeviLamprey · Mar 30th, 2011, 5:44:33 AM

The Syclant is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE improvement on Gen 4's odd, sketch-like sprite that is doing a hundred things at the same time. The clutterred-ness isn't an issue, but if the sprites end up animated then it'd be a huge nightmare to conduct.
Cychlohm looks amazing (but that's a biased opinion: anything with Shield Dust=my hero), even thought he backsprite is facing oddly, the head design averts this and obviously it's deliberate.

Tortferngatr · May 4th, 2011, 6:08:23 PM

Additionally, getting these into individual sprites would certainly help us at ASB.

Charmander · May 4th, 2011, 9:16:14 PM

Tried my hand at shiny Breezi....

Albinoloon · Jun 1st, 2011, 11:31:09 AM

Made a Breezi prototype, I'll do the backsprites/shinies if you like it.

IC3R. · Jun 2nd, 2011, 1:27:20 PM

I tried my hand at some new frontals for Kitsunoh:

I liked the idea of four on the floor, so that's what I went with. I also wanted to try a new color for the shiny variation... instead of the odd sickly green, I opted for an autumn-like orange. Just seems more appealing is all o 3 o

Working on the back sprites at this moment~

Spenstar · Jun 13th, 2011, 4:22:05 PM

Okay, the first image kinda failed on me, so I'll upload shiny Monohm again.

Ta-da! :D

shampoo · Jun 13th, 2011, 10:25:28 PM

I really like the voodoom sprite. Gj.

iRossy · Jul 5th, 2011, 10:15:25 PM

What's Breezi the prevo of? ._.
EDIT: Oh, is it Revenankh? Lol xD

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Originally Posted by Fat Darkhuaza517

Here's my Krilowatt prevo. I call it Attowatt, but feel free to suggest names.

I tried hard for this and I know I'm not the best spriter, so you can always tell me some things I need to change.

That's a reaally awesome Attowatt. Back Sprite plox? ^.^

Gerard · Jul 6th, 2011, 5:25:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat iRossy

What's Breezi the prevo of? ._.
EDIT: Oh, is it Revenankh? Lol xD

No, it's Fidgit's prevo :3

iRossy · Jul 6th, 2011, 5:55:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gerard

No, it's Fidgit's prevo :3

Oh wow I didn't even consider Fidgit because they're so different xD Thanks for the clarification :p

Tortferngatr · Jul 31st, 2011, 10:51:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat iRossy

What's Breezi the prevo of? ._.
EDIT: Oh, is it Revenankh? Lol xD

That's a reaally awesome Attowatt. Back Sprite plox? ^.^

It's good, although I still object. (I already made Plicowatt...:( )

Mar 24th, 2011, 4:23:53 PM	#78
heatran1919 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 83	Hey guys. I got a little bit bored, so I took a swing at a shiny for Colosshale. We all live in a yellow submarine~ Yellow submarine~ Yellow submarine~ Last edited by heatran1919; Mar 26th, 2011 at 11:54:08 AM.

Mar 25th, 2011, 6:09:09 PM	#79
elementalheroshadow Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 32 Land of the Unappreciated	can i call voodoom and kitsuno? EDIT: too late! already finished voodoom! changed the shiny's heart/pins to orange. it just bothered me that it was the same as one of the arm colors. Last edited by elementalheroshadow; Mar 25th, 2011 at 8:03:37 PM.

Mar 26th, 2011, 6:16:20 AM	#82
Darkhuaza517 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 322	Here's my Krilowatt prevo. I call it Attowatt, but feel free to suggest names. I tried hard for this and I know I'm not the best spriter, so you can always tell me some things I need to change. __________________ COMMAND SELECTED: HYPER BEAM. LOADING...

Mar 26th, 2011, 11:21:37 AM	#84
McLuvdisc Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 337 Evergrande City	Wow, these look great! The only one I'm kinda worried about is Syclant. In the new sprite, his lowermost pair of icicle wing things are far shorter and narrower than the original. In addition, I think the angle of the wings should be changed. In the new sprite, they're almost perpendicular to his spine (yeah, I know bugs don't have vertebrae, but you get the idea). That wasn't the way it was in the original. Finally, I'd like to see more of Syclant's face in the backsprite (especially those awesome icy mandibles) but of course that's just a personal preference. Other than that, I love the posing and the overall design. I can imagine that Syclant would be a very difficult sprite to remake (what with his odd body shape and loads of little details) and this spriter certainly pulled it off with aplomb. Edit: I love your prevo, Darkhuaza! Edit 2: I'd actually like to retract the point I made earlier about the angle of Syclant's wings. The spriter who did the remake was simply trying to stay faithful to the original front sprite, and overall I like their design better. No offense to Syclant's original spriter, but it doesn't make sense to have Syclant's wings spread out all around him in his frontsprite, then fold them back in the backsprite so you can see his face more clearly. __________________ The 25-year-old Hawaiian organ donor! Avatar by Lorak.

Mar 28th, 2011, 6:43:53 AM	#89
Wyverii "What I cannot create, I do not understand." Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 756	Spiffy returns! Cyclohm's done for now. Not much changed at the front, just some highlights shifted around. As for syclant the size of the lowest set of wings was changed for two reasons. First I was incorperating some elements from both the original design which has tiny cross shaped lower wings and cartoons design. Second it shows off the abdomen more which would otherwise be completely covered. If anything my biggest concern would be with how cluttered the backsprite is, but if I am to keep the current front then there's not too much I can do about that. It's similar to how Fidgit's backsprite is cluttered too. Last edited by Wyverii; Mar 28th, 2011 at 7:15:49 AM.

Mar 26th, 2011, 4:13:31 AM	#81
Wyverii "What I cannot create, I do not understand." Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 756	The Kitsunoh back posted for the current front is excellent. It is true that BW sprites don't have poses that would imply being in the middle of a motion such as the jumping one here but if we don't have the time to change the front it'll make an excellent back. Leading paw is the wrong side and there are a few perspective issues as it gets to the legs. Good contribution. I have no idea what's going on with the voodoom above. In all respects what was done to the front is closer to a 2nd gen sprite than a 5th. Overdithered everywhere. Excellent shading from the original was removed or changed in odd ways such as on the leg and neck moving it towards an almost pillowshaded look. There are also pixel fragments in the outlines of parts, seemingly random black pixels peppered in with colours too light to meld it in with the outline correctly. The back suffers from the same problems as the front and a few odd proportions with the arms. I'm not going to lie, this is a bad attempt. It would be faster to scrap and reattempt if you're intent on continuing the voodoom but I'd recommend you try something easier for a while and get your basics in shape. The artists here should be happy to help you out as much as possible. You've got potential but you seem to have picked up a lot of bad habits on the way.

Mar 30th, 2011, 5:44:33 AM	#90
LeviLamprey Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,205	The Syclant is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE improvement on Gen 4's odd, sketch-like sprite that is doing a hundred things at the same time. The clutterred-ness isn't an issue, but if the sprites end up animated then it'd be a huge nightmare to conduct. Cychlohm looks amazing (but that's a biased opinion: anything with Shield Dust=my hero), even thought he backsprite is facing oddly, the head design averts this and obviously it's deliberate. __________________ CAP ASB Shenanigans Pikurei Forums (12:01:01) EmeraldOx: we can be clumsybuddies ;w;

May 4th, 2011, 6:08:23 PM	#91
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,558 United States of America	Additionally, getting these into individual sprites would certainly help us at ASB. __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

May 4th, 2011, 9:16:14 PM	#92
Charmander Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,705 Great Falls, VA Mentor	Tried my hand at shiny Breezi.... __________________

Jun 1st, 2011, 11:31:09 AM	#93
Albinoloon Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,408 Very afraid	Made a Breezi prototype, I'll do the backsprites/shinies if you like it. __________________ ~~~* an ASB Team of love ~~~ +-=+-=+-= Fakedex =-+=-+=-+ I custom sprite ASB 'mons and trainers; PM me x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x Last edited by Albinoloon; Jun 1st, 2011 at 2:10:21 PM.*

Jun 2nd, 2011, 1:27:20 PM	#94
IC3R. Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 41 Blargh...	I tried my hand at some new frontals for Kitsunoh: I liked the idea of four on the floor, so that's what I went with. I also wanted to try a new color for the shiny variation... instead of the odd sickly green, I opted for an autumn-like orange. Just seems more appealing is all o 3 o Working on the back sprites at this moment~ Last edited by IC3R.; Jun 2nd, 2011 at 2:35:21 PM.

Jun 13th, 2011, 4:22:05 PM	#95
Spenstar Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,138 New York	Okay, the first image kinda failed on me, so I'll upload shiny Monohm again. Ta-da! :D __________________ My team of awesome! 22:20 Terrador wow 22:21 Terrador You just found a use for Rage. 22:21 Terrador Congratulations. 22:21 Spenstar yes, yes I did 8) 22:21 UllarWarlord applause

Jun 13th, 2011, 10:25:28 PM	#96
shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 16	I really like the voodoom sprite. Gj.